CPT523 From Singapore, joined Aug 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4966 times:
I am potentially moving from the United States to Singapore. However, we have a dog that is a big part of our family. Is there anyone here who has used an international pet moving service and would recommend it (or airline that does a great job with this?) I have looked through the Singapore Airlines website and they do not allow animals on their A340-500s or A380s. In addition, if you are traveling from Australian, NZ, UK and USA, they recommend using a pet moving company.
VS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4931 times:
I know Lufthansa is pretty good but there are certain procedures to follow - pet's passport, vaccinations, special cage but the cats arrived safely from the US to Eastern Europe - they did travel with the owner though.
tu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 688 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4858 times:
DO NOT DO IT. Seriously, in my 15yrs working around commercial aviation, that is the one thing that p&^%$%^es me off to no end. Animals stress out really bad, get handled by people that have no care or concerns for other peoples belongings and I could go on and on.............I have seen way to many bad things happen. Just the noises of the ramp and transfer, not to mention the long rides in the a/c are enough to give any animal a heart attack or something similar. I hope you consider all the options-remember and remember, by owning a pet you are taking on the responsibility of caring for that pet-it depends on you!!! Good Luck!!
globalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1047 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4827 times:
It is a tough decision. We have moved our cats from SAN to ATL and CO really takes good care of animals. But US-SIN that is another story. I would really shop around. You may also want to check with the AKC or even ASPCA to see if they have suggestions. You know they would have a reliable source. Good luck!
Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
I'm inclined to agree here. I always made sure to take excellent care of animals when I worked on the ramp, and most of my co-workers did too, but there were a few things I saw that made me vow to never put my dog on a plane. Nevermind they're just always scared to death.
YYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4671 times:
I would never want to put my dog through the stress of air travel, unless in the cabin with me. If your dog is small enough, you might be able to bring it on-board. But it can not be released, so it will in a pet crate for a long time.
However, having a dog myself, and knowing I would never leave her behind if we moved (especially my mother, she would stay put and never leave if it meant leaving the dog).
A few links I ahve found that will hopefully help:
chootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4587 times:
With the knowledge that I am gonna get FLAMMED by a lot of folks, I would suggest you use LH.
I have a dog that travels with me at least 3 times a year in the aircraft hold. My dog is in an IATA crate number 3 which is restricted to the aircraft type/Hold door demensions.
I know it is stressful, but since I do not need him as a "service" animal, I have to opt for the hold.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all about the horror stories, but being a ramp agent and ops agent for more than 17 years I know what to expect. I make sure that the Dog + Crate are loaded and well sucured in the hold before I take my seat. The aircrew are very understanding of this, and if it is not the case, I tell them I will not travel without the Dog being with me.
I always make a point to let the operating crew know 100% that my dog is in the hold and to take the necessary precautions....better safe than sorry.
And, LH has wonderful transit areas for animals in FRA and MUC.
Of course if I could take my 30KG chocolate lab in the cabin, I would never put him in the hold.
my . GOOD luck to you and your move especially your pet!!
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6005 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4468 times:
Quoting chootie (Reply 8): I always make a point to let the operating crew know 100% that my dog is in the hold and to take the necessary precautions....better safe than sorry.
Live cargo is always included in our final load information. And, on some aircraft where it is loaded.
It doesn't really change our operating procedures, other than it does provide an answer if the passengers above deck hear the dog crying or barking below deck. We do however, just before push-back, check with the ramp crew to confirm the animal was boarded, just in case the passenger asks ... a reasonable request.
Just because I stopped arguing, doesn't mean I think you are right. It just means I gave up!
Herc4ever From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4307 times:
I have shipped my two personal dogs three times due to moves and my work dog countless times for work. I usually do not have any control over which carriers I fly. I have shipped dogs on UA, DL, LH and KL. I also shipped my two dogs with a pet shipper in FRA once, but I don't remember the name and it doesn't look like it will help the OP anyway. I have never had a problem on any carriers. DL, UA and LH have also let my 100 lb dog ride in the seat next to me, but those were my work dog and the crate wouldn't fit through the cargo door. My only experience flying a dog to Asia was on KLM to Jakarta and they were exceptional.
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