AT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1173 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5053 times:
A number of airlines fly 3-class aircraft on routes which they sell only two classes (typically Business and Economy).
I had two related questions. First, on such flights, do they sell they sell the F class seats as J seats or keep the cabin empty? For e.g, if an aircraft has 10 F and 40 J class seats, do they sell 40 or 50 J class tickets?
And second, what if there were eventually only say 30 passengers on theflight. Would they be seated all in the J cabin, or would 10 of them be seated in the F cabin and 20 in J?
what are airline policies on this issue? I can certainly see advantages to using the F cabin as a J cabin. You get to sell more seats, and make some passengers extra happy, resulting in possible increased loyalty to the airline in the future. The service would still be the same as other J customers, so there would be no additional costs.
Comments? Particularly curious to hear from those in the know
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 33444 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5031 times:
It has been my experience that when UA substitutes a three-class plane for a two-class, they will kick those who are on a paid F ticket to First Class and those who are upgraded to Business.
Where UA normally flies a two-class bird, but does offer at least one scheduled three-class service, they have two First Class fares - one for the two class birds and another, more expensive ones, for the three class birds. I want to say the Fare Codes are FA2 and FA3, respectively.
Initious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1077 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4960 times:
Quoting AT (Thread starter): For e.g, if an aircraft has 10 F and 40 J class seats, do they sell 40 or 50 J class tickets?
You seem to be describing the TG 747 that I'll be flying in 3 days from SIN-BKK. The F section is blocked off and I'm not sure if there will be anyone getting assigned a seat there, probably Star Gold members? I'm booked on an upper deck seat and I guess I'l not want to sit in the F cabin for this time if it's available. If it is available next time, I definitely would not mind sitting in the nose of a 747!
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10566 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4883 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): It has been my experience that when UA substitutes a three-class plane for a two-class, they will kick those who are on a paid F ticket to First Class and those who are upgraded to Business.
That only happens when there are not enough seats in the business class section. UA's 747s are the only plane that can substitute for the 2-class Hawaii 777s. When the 747 is put on the hawaii routes, the first class cabin is given to elite members who paid for business class as they already receive complimentary upgrades. Other than that, it is left open and usually filled with non-revs.
However if a 3 class 777 gets put on 777 2 class route a 767 3 class on a 767 2 class or smaller plane route, then they will do auto upgrades since it is a net loss of seats.
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