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User currently offlineEricAY05 From Finland, joined Sep 2010, 97 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 3244 times:

1)

I've read a lot of online reviews about RJ and most of them are not that flattering. Since I trust the opinion of A.netters more than the opinion of "ordinary people" when it comes to airlines I decided to start a topic here. Those of you who have flown LHR-AMM-BKK or KUL-AMM-LHR with them recently, how did you find the service? Was it really as rude as people say? Was your luggage destroyed or lost? Was Amman airport an awful place to spend a few hours in? All the mentioned flights are listed as operated by A332, which are very new, so at least the onboard experience (IFE, etc.) should be nice, right? Since I'm a freak, I'll also ask this  How good are the chances to get a A342 or A313 instead of the listed A332 on those routes? I'm assuming that safety is not an issue on RJ, but comments regarding this are also welcomed!

2)

What would be the best and safest airline to use between Jakarta and Balikpapan? I've understood that Garuda is nowadays decent, but their price for that relatively short flight was really high ($300+). I know, that flying in Indonesia is still safer than walking/driving/cycling/whatever in Europe, so please don't bother with those comments  

Thank you!

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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

can only speak to #2:

Indonesian domestic airlines get a bad rap that's not necessarily warranted depending on where you're going. I had a perfectly fine time flying around on Merpati, which at the time had literally the world's worst safety record. This is, however, because they operate into a lot of "primitive" airports...and by that I mean they literally land on a grass strip cleared from jungle, often with obstacles near the runway. Some of their operations are basically bush flying, which is inherently dangerous. You're going between two fairly modern airports, so I wouldn't sweat it from a safety standpoint on any carrier.

That being said, on this route your alternatives to Garuda are Lionair and Batavia. Lionair is EU-banned, while Batavia is not. One-way fares on Batavia seem to run between $55US and $80, which seems to include tax. (well, not the Indonesian departure tax, which IIRC was around $3US and collected in cash at the security checkpoint. Roughly double that for international.)


User currently offlineVZLA787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

I can only comment on #2.

I flew LionAir JOG-CGK on a 737-900 (can't remember if it was ER or not).
This was the worst legroom I've ever experienced in my life, something like 29".
The seats were vinyl (or a very cheap leather), which sticks to your legs (Indonesia is very hot, humid and sticky).
I would never again choose LionAi, so if you can avoid it, I would recommend to do so.


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

Quoting EricAY05 (Thread starter):
What would be the best and safest airline to use between Jakarta and Balikpapan?



Again, LION AIR is a cheap airline- but tight legroom, poor service and delays are a no go for me.

If you you would like flying cheap from A to B, http://www.sriwijayaair.co.id/ should be your choice of travel- go for it.

But you may check and compare the prices of GARUDA low-cost arm CITILINK http://www.citilink.co.id/ and private Indonesian carrier BATAVIA http://www.batavia-air.com/ .


User currently offlineEricAY05 From Finland, joined Sep 2010, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months ago) and read 3176 times:

Thanks for the answers!

I think Sriwijaya and Batavia are the best choises then. Garuda is too expensive in my opinion for an airline with a relatively bad reputation (at least those prices I've found).

How about the security aspect of RJ and Jordan? Does anyone know what happens if the ongoing riots lead to more severe events and Amman airport is closed? Do the connecting passengers have any rights (=RJ books them on another airline)?


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting EricAY05 (Reply 4):
Garuda is too expensive in my opinion for an airline with a relatively bad reputation



I think GARUDA is very well improving and not anymore that "bad" at all. But you are right. On my trip to Indonesia one airline was always up to 10 times more expansive and mostly delayed and guess which it was...


User currently offlineafterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 5):
I think GARUDA is very well improving and not anymore that "bad" at all.

Yes. Garuda Indonesia won the 2010 Most Improved Airline award. Moreover, now it is a 4-stars airline.

[Edited 2011-04-06 20:03:18]

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