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Do Amenity Kits Make A Difference?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 10
Posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4850 times:
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I can't imagine anyone would choose to fly an airline because of it's amenity kit in business or first class. But I do think they make a statement about the airline. United F had a very cool portfolio-like kit and now it's a cheap cloth pouch with a no name set of cremes and lotions and a generic toothpaste. They do tie the socks and eyeshades with a nice gold ribbon. TAM has a very clever system: they have a cart filled with goodies to choose from and an ok pouch to fill up on your own. It saves those millions of tubes of lotion that are never even opened and left on the seat.

But has anyone ever gotten a kit that just blew your mind? One that says "wow, this is a really classy airline"

I like the LH pajamas which I wear at home- but wouldn't be caught dead in the shirt!


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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6318 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
I can't imagine anyone would choose to fly an airline because of it's amenity kit in business or first class.

Nope, never.

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
But I do think they make a statement about the airline

Agreed.

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
But has anyone ever gotten a kit that just blew your mind?

Nope, never. Half the time I open mine up, look at what is inside (if it's a new airline and I don't already know), and don't use it. Most other times, I use only one or two things at most.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11639 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
It saves those millions of tubes of lotion that are never even opened and left on the seat.

Waste avoidance influences my choosing of a product far more than anything else. Not just for airlines and their amenity kits; I try and avoid any item if it's packaged unnecessarily/excessively, but specifically on full service airlines I dislike their habit of giving you things which are potentially not needed, or an excess of items which are. Allowing passengers to chose what they need seems like a far more cost and resource effective solution.


Dan  



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User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1055 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

I would love a nice touch of an amenity kit when flying in J as that is one of the unique perks not available in Y (except some airlines). I personally love the WY amenity kit. Have one of those in my drawer and no intention of destroying it anytime soon (i.e. not using the things in there). However, I have started using some stuffs from my TG amenity kit as I do not want them to go bad (like mouthwash). I personally still try to keep amenity kits whenever I fly. Even if I have finished using up all the things in there, I could make do with the beautiful bag.  

I hope more airlines will implement the TAM's way of letting you choose your own stuffs as it definitely lessens the wastes produced.



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4806 times:
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First time I got an amenity kit with a mini hanger so it could be hung open from a seat or the restroom while in use, that blew my mind (as in "why didn't anyone else think of that"). However that was a long time ago, and I can't recall for certainty which carrier it was, although I do think it was CO.

But an amenity kit that blew my mind because of its content, I can't say this has ever happened. I use the basic supplies, especially if I am not headed straight home/hotel upon landing (toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, mouthwash).

I used to look forward to flying LH for the Etienne Aigner Free Life soaps, but I think they've been discontinued years ago. No, I of course didn't pick LH for a small bar of soap, but I appreciated getting one all the same.

Note: I am not saying CO was the first to come up with the hanger concept, I'm saying that I was on CO (possibly) when I was first exposed to it).



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User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):


CX's F kit was pretty good. Lotions, tooth brush, pj's the whole nine yards.



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User currently offlineJKJ777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

KE does not provide an amenity kit in Prestige. However, the bathrooms are well stocked with the normal items and eye shades and ear plugs are available on request. I do wish that they provided some 'gift' like KLM does when flying J. Otherwise, an excellent product to and from Asia.

User currently offlinecarbon787 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

frankly, I think the kits on any airline are a waste of money and resources. Most of them either stay on the aircraft or in a drawer at home and eventually thrown out.
Having said then, the F amenity kits given out by Etihad are pretty good, I do like the large pouch/bag they come in, we do you use those.
I do like the idea of being able to pick your own from a cart, that is a very smart and cost effective way, not to mention much less waste, of giving away some goodies.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4690 times:
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The TAM system blew my mind because they are beautifully presented on the cart and there are 20 things to choose from. But you only take what you want. Woman's and mens things etc. It feels like a real treat. And no waste!

The CO kit has been the same forever with the hook to hang the kit. But it is SO cheap in how it's made! Aside from the TAM cart, BA used to give MOLTON BROWN products. And even as a guy- I love MOLTON BROWN! but I guess it just cost too much and they got rid of it.

One think that surprises me, is how many people use the socks!



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4686 times:

I give the flight socks to my mum, who likes to wear them!

After mu luggage was a day late after a recent long haul flight, the toiletries came in very handy...



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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 8):
BA used to give MOLTON BROWN products. And even as a guy- I love MOLTON BROWN! but I guess it just cost too much and they got rid of it.

BA now offer D.R. Harris in First, which is even more expensive than Molton Brown. In Club World they offer Elemis, although only tester style products.

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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

My father brought back once, a long time ago, an Alitalia kit. Several, actually, from diffrent years. One of these is in a beautiful tin (!) box. I have everything in there, I've not even moved anything. It's all in it's original place. It's a nice box, but it weighs a lot. The only pictures I found was from Ebay. The version I have is the one on the bottom.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=250795971336

I think it's ridiculous for an airline to give that out- it costs a lot to make, and to carry around. These things are quite a lot heavier than your normal kit. Does it make someone fly Alitalia? No... Does it give a good (probably great) impression of the airline? Yes...

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 4):

First time I got an amenity kit with a mini hanger so it could be hung open from a seat or the restroom while in use, that blew my mind (as in "why didn't anyone else think of that").

I have one of these, also from Alitalia- it's very clever, lightweight, and probably is cheap to manufacture.

[Edited 2011-04-23 07:25:17]

[Edited 2011-04-23 07:26:19]


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
TAM has a very clever system: they have a cart filled with goodies to choose from and an ok pouch to fill up on your own. It saves those millions of tubes of lotion that are never even opened and left on the seat.
Quoting SW733 (Reply 1):
Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
But has anyone ever gotten a kit that just blew your mind?

Nope, never. Half the time I open mine up, look at what is inside (if it's a new airline and I don't already know), and don't use it. Most other times, I use only one or two things at most.
Quoting carbon787 (Reply 7):
frankly, I think the kits on any airline are a waste of money and resources. Most of them either stay on the aircraft or in a drawer at home and eventually thrown out.

Agree. They should just make individual items available on request to cut costs and avoid the waste, and many airlines have been doing this for quite a while. I remember when a few airlines stopped distributing amenity kits on daytime flights and only offered them on night flights, but you could request eyeshades and toothbrushes etc. on the daytime flights.

I've been on many flights where you see most of the amenity kits left on the seats when passengers deplane. Very wasteful. When I moved from Canada to Switzerland in 1996 I had a dresser drawer full of amenity kits from many carriers, including several that no longer exist today (Pan Am, TWA, Varig, Swissair, Sabena, CP Air, Canadian etc.) I threw them all away as had no room for them. Some might have been worth a few dollars to collectors.


User currently offlinefbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4597 times:

PJs: CX's Shanghai Tangs are very stylish although the buttons down the front make sleeping in them a little uncomfortable as I sleep on my front. BA's are very comfortable although not stylish...I do wear them around the house. My wife loved the QF PJs.

Amenity kits: BA's kits in F used to be superb, back in the early 2000s, different kits for men and women. The boxes had cool designs of old aircraft; Boeing 377s and old BOAC seaplanes and such. I still use an Anya Hindmarch box and zip up bags for everyday washbags. Very cool looking and useful   I was impressed with JL's F kits with Shisheido products.

I'd never choose an airline because of an amenity kit but it is one of the few tangible things you take off a flight, at least in my case (many FFs leave the kits behind, but would they if they were much better?) so having a useful/pleasant reminder of a flight is important.



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User currently offlinecgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

Well whenever I fly to the States I try to book AF because they provide a very basic amenity kit eye shades, headphones, moist towel, menu) to econ passengers.

Does KLM still give out the porcelain Dutch Houses with liquer inside in biz class? I have 3 of them still unopened. I heard they had to discontinue it due to the infamous "liquids rule".



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User currently offlinefixfox From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 4484 times:
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KLM still gives the Dutch houses in WBC.
The count is at 91. On some flights to the Middle-East where alcohol is forbidden, they are supplied empty.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 4478 times:
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Quoting VC10er (Reply 8):
One think that surprises me, is how many people use the socks!

Doesn't surprise me at all, the first thing I do when I get on a long haul flight is take my shoes off and put the socks on.

The best kit I got was on SA)">DL business class back in the 80s. I was flying FRA-DFW on an L-1011 daylight flight and they gave us a really classy leather-look case with some nice stuff inside. I still have it somewhere.

SA have had some nice kits over the years, one was a Delsey zip bag filled with goodies, another was a sorta man purse filled with all the amenities you needed including a manicure set.



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User currently offlinearmitageshanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3619 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

I have about 10 kits from CO, US, and BA I've not used. The first few I used the chap-stick and lotion but that's it.

Alitalia was probably the best one I've used.

I'd never base my travel on the kit. I wouldn't base it on the food, seat, or pretty much anything on-board either. Its all about miles, price, and destination.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4201 times:
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I put the socks on before I even get my glass of water! Sometimes I take them home: they last about 5 wears after one washing!!!  . Crazy- I know!

I have never and would never choose an airline because of the amenity kit. BUT I WILL JUDGE an airline to a degree on how well done an airline kit is. When I see it get really cheaper...I hate that. But it can't be wasteful either. The best looking one (in my opinion) was United's First Class which they stopped using about one or two years ago. It was a black or brown neoprene portfolio with a gold satin interior. I have about 6 of them as I use it as my travel kit for my toiletries because I would have bought one if I saw it in a cool store. It said so much about UA's attempt to turn their reputation around with the new F and C.
But the one that "BLEW MY MIND" was on a VARIG flight from Rio to Frankfurt in First. It was HUGE and brown leather. The compass stamped in the middle of the square leather bag. Inside was a brown silk bag, cinched with rope and a gold latch used to close the silk bag. Once you open this HUGE silk bag was a treasure trove of goodies, like 20 things all with the VARIG LOGO! and... The kicker was the silk bag was attached by Velcro so the lady could keep the gold silk bag with the brown rope and gold latch and the square leather bag for her husband. It was something that Ivana Trump would have loved- same with the Donald (although I'm sure he'd steal the comb)

I had it for many years- but after like 10 years of just showing it to company- I threw it out. If I had known VARIG's fate- I would have kept it!!



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 18):
I put the socks on before I even get my glass of water!

That's a very bad idea. In the event of an accident during takeoff, you may have to evacuate the aircraft onto possibly burning and/or sharp debris in your socks.

For the same reason, you should also put your shoes back on before landing.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
One that says "wow, this is a really classy airline"


The kit given by BA on the Concorde really nice. Nice gray notebook, calculator and pen along with the toiletries . While I never got to fly on the Concorde, my one chance was foiled by a late arriving Delta flight, I was given a tour of one by the Rolls Royce rep. at JFK and the BA crew gave me a kit.

I was filling in for our represenative at Eastern at the time and I put the kit in my desk, only to have someone steal it.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4163 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):

Thank you for being concerned enough to write me about that! It occurs to me every time I put the socks on before take off. I am just so fearless when I'm on a 747 or something else big that I just go ahead and do it! Working all day in dress shoes. Running through LHR or some other large airport and slipping them on asap is such a relief!

After this post, I think I will now be neurotic enough to wait for the plane to have safely taken off and climbing. I tell people never to take their Ambien until after wheels are up for the same reason!

Thanks again



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