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Is There A Major Difference Between BA F And J?  
User currently offlineryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5563 times:

Greetings all

I have an upcoming LHR-BKK flight and I am going to use BA Miles. I have enough miles to go either J or pay a bit extra and go F - I haven't flown BA F before so was wondering for those who have if there is a huge difference between Club World and First on BA 744 flights?


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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1039 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5522 times:
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LHR-BKK is usually flown on the 744. IIRC they are still the old-style F (the new product is due to be rolled out across the entire fleet by end 2012) as the 777s are the only aircraft to have the new F at present.

All 747 now have the latest J product. IMO, there is still a big difference between the old F and new J and F is always nicer if you want to pay the premium  

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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5464 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 1):
as the 777s are the only aircraft to have the new F at present.

Sandy, that is not correct. In fact, whilst there are 15 777s (including -300ers) fitted with new first, there are 24 744s fitted with this new cabin. The 744s fitted with NF are HI-Js and MID-Js so any 744 route is liable to be operated with new first onboard. As for BA9, 3 of the past 19 flights were NF aircraft. In my opinion, yes, there a big difference between Club and First. Everything from comfort, to service, to food is quite differentiated. So long as the only factor in your decision is the difference between the cabins, go with First!

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User currently offlinealaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Hi,

for me the difference is that First class is about the personal journey, making things elegant, nice, helpful, your own personal space to relax, to be able to take up more space, being allowed to take the time you want, and accommodating for the individual passenger (AKA- they treat you as a human as opposed to a business class passenger).
business class is about having a flat bed, eatable food, and minimal, but sufficient space to work/be in, -efficiency and speed.

I had a bad experience with 8 BA FIRST flights a took a few years ago and don't plan on paying the difference anytime soon, and the business class cabin gives you everything you need to get from point A to point B well rested and ready to go then for that, but if you want to have the feeling of being personally looked after where the journey between A and B is something special then go for FIRST. but its a gamble really.

Hope you have a great flight one way or another.

Also- not sure of the mileage difference but if I had choice (and a bit more time for travel) I'd use my BA miles for CX LHR-HKG-BKK. CX First suite far outweighs the BA seat (new or old) and if it's the same price as BA First then I'd take that in a heart beat.


Cheers
Kyle



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5359 times:

Quoting alaskaqantas (Reply 3):
I had a bad experience with 8 BA FIRST flights a took a few years ago and don't plan on paying the difference anytime soon,

Your profile says you're 16 to 20 years old. If all those BA first class flights were "a few years ago", how old were you then? Obviously you weren't paying those multi-thousand $ fares yourself.  

In my opinion, first class, and in most cases even business class, is never worth the huge fare premium over Y class unless someone else is paying for the ticket, or unless you're redeeming frequent flyer miles.

[Edited 2011-05-25 02:57:03]

User currently offlinerobso2 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2010, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 2):
Sandy, that is not correct. In fact, whilst there are 15 777s (including -300ers) fitted with new first, there are 24 744s fitted with this new cabin

There are 14 77E's fitted with the new F (G-VIIU-Y and G-YMMG-P), and 3 77Ws.

Quoting ryanb741 (Thread starter):
there is a huge difference between Club World and First on BA 744 flights

huge is a relative term - both offer good comfort by the sounds of previous TR Including, lie flats and good AVOD. If you want enhanced lounge experience, larger and more flexible seat and as others have said an extra touch of privacy and personal service then F is for you!

[Edited 2011-05-25 05:00:01]


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User currently offlinescrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5312 times:

Why not do F oneway and J the other so you get the best of both worlds???
You are always gonna get BA haters..always been that way..but give them a go.... Fingers crossed you'll be lucky enough to get the new first class.... In F you can dine when you want... J you eat the main meal with everyone else... From my experience of operating the flights.... The sectors to Oz are really busy... So far a bit more peace and quiet..try and get upstairs if you go for Club.

Have a good one!!!! And before anyone slates me...yes I am a BA employee... Not bias and would be one of the first to say anything negative if need be.

Ps. Nice one viscount  


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5290 times:

Quoting robso2 (Reply 5):
There are 14 77E's fitted with the new F (G-VIIU-Y and G-YMMG-P), and 3 77Ws.

I stand corrected, thank you. Adding to the registrations you posted, BNLE, BNLK, BNLN-P, BNLT-V, BYGA-C, BYGE-G, CIVD-I, CIVK, CIVM-O, and CIVT are the 744s with the new Fist. Whenever BNLU returns to service, she should have NF as well.

Speedbird741

[Edited 2011-05-25 10:28:09]

[Edited 2011-05-25 10:43:24]


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User currently offlineryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

Thanks for the feedback guys. I might try CX J class via HKG on the way out as I can use my miles for that and BA F back to LHR. Rationale is that BA9 departs from T3 LHR and apparently the F lounge at T3 is nowhere near as nice as the lounge at T5


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User currently offlinealaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
Your profile says you're 16 to 20 years old

i should change that...

Quoting ryanb741 (Reply 8):
Thanks for the feedback guys. I might try CX J class via HKG on the way out as I can use my miles for that and BA F back to LHR. Rationale is that BA9 departs from T3 LHR and apparently the F lounge at T3 is nowhere near as nice as the lounge at T5

unless you can get the new Cathay business class seats (colleague recently flew them and had high praise) BA's current J configuration is better then the herringbone product CX has on the A340's and 747's that fly the LHR-HKG route. Whereas the F product of CX (guaranteed the same product on any plane that offers F) is better then the BA product (and that one you'd be hoping for the new seat, but unsure.

completely my opinion, but I'd take CX F one way and BA J the other way if you want to do one of each class.

Hope this helps,

best,
kyle



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