Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19286 posts, RR: 52 Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7132 times:
Aside from the likes of BOS, JFK, EWR, PHL, BWI, IAD, CLT, RDU, MCO, TPA, FLL, MIA, BNA, DFW, IAH, AUS, SAT, DTW, ORD, MSP, DEN, SLC, PHX, LAS, SAN, LAX, SFO, OAK, PDX, and SEA, which US airports have the required facilities (immigration, customs, etc) to handle international services? I am assuming the originating, non-US airport does not have US preclearance facilities.
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26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 860 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7061 times:
There are many airports with US Customs and Immigration services. Here are a few more, some obscure, but not the complete list:
International airports of entry designated by the Secretary of the Treasury.
Albany, N.Y.—Albany County Airport
Baudette, Minn.—Baudette International
Bellingham, Wash.—Bellingham International
Brownsville, Tex.—Brownsville International
Burlington, Vt.—Burlington International
Calexico, Calif.—Calexico International Airport
Caribou, Maine—Caribou Municipal Airport
Chicago, Ill.—Midway Airport
Cleveland, Ohio—Cleveland Hopkins International
Cut Bank, Mont.—Cut Bank Airport
Del Rio, Tex.—Del Rio International Airport
Detroit, Mich.—Detroit City Airport
Detroit, Mich.—Detroit Metropolitan Wayne
Douglas, Ariz.—Bisbee-Douglas International
Duluth, Minn.—Duluth International Airport
Duluth, Minn.—Sky Harbor Airport
El Paso, Tex.—El Paso International Airport
Fort Lauderdale, Fla.—Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood
Friday Harbor, Wash.—Friday Harbor Seaplane
Grand Forks, N. Dak.—Grand Forks International
Great Falls, Mont.—Great Falls International
Havre, Mont.—Havre City-County Airport
Houlton, Maine—Houlton International Airport
International Falls, Minn.—Falls International
Juneau, Alaska—Juneau Municipal Airport
Juneau, Alaska—Juneau Harbor Seaplane
Ketchikan, Alaska—Ketchikan Harbor Seaplane
Key West, Fla.—Key West International Airport
Laredo, Tex.—Laredo International Airport
Massena, N.Y.—Richards Field
Maverick, Tex.—Maverick County Airport
McAllen, Tex.—Miller International Airport
Miami, Fla.—Chalk Seaplane Base
Miami, Fla.—Miami International Airport
Minot, N.Dak.—Minot International Airport
Nogales, Ariz.—Nogales International Airport
Ogdensburg, N.Y.—Ogdensburg Harbor
Ogdensburg, N.Y.—Ogdensburg International
Oroville, Wash.—Dorothy Scott Airport
Oroville, Wash.—Dorothy Scott Seaplane
Pembina, N.Dak.—Pembina Municipal Airport
Port Huron, Mich.—St. Clair County International
Port Townsend, Wash.—Jefferson County
Ranier, Minn.—Ranier Internatioal Seaplane
Rochester, N.Y.—Rochester-Monroe County
Rouses Point, N.Y.—Rouses Point Seaplane
San Diego, Calif.—San Diego International
Airport (Lindbergh Field)
Sandusky, Ohio—Griffing-Sandusky Airport
Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.—Sault Ste. Marie
Seattle, Wash.—King County International
Seattle, Wash.—Lake Union Air Service
Tampa, Fla.—Tampa International Airport
Tucson, Ariz.—Tucson International Airport
Watertown, N.Y.—Watertown New York
West Palm Beach, Fla.—Palm Beach International
Williston, N. Dak.—Sloulin Field International
Wrangell, Alaska—Wrangell Seaplane Base
Yuma, Ariz.—Yuma International Airport
imag From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6709 times:
How can an airport be an international airport, but not an international airport of entry? An example is Stewart International in NY. Would an airline/private jet have to land in Albany first to clear customs etc, then fly down? Also, if you leave Stewart, can you leave the country direct then?
Is there really a difference between an International Airport and an International Airport of entry?
JohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1692 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6658 times:
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 3): BDL is another airport which has had international service in the recent past.
Still does - Delta flies CUN-BDL nonstop. AC also flies nonstop to YYZ and YVR, but of course those are pre-clearance airports. BDL has a dedicated FIS building with a single gate; it's used quite a bit by corporate jets.
Memphis also has FIS facilities to support the Delta MEM-AMS flight among others.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26322 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6634 times:
This is actually an incredibly complex issues and question.
I'm on the road and cant get into deep discussion, however to say the least there are many different levels of airport types and services available.
Some airports obviously the big ones have are fully staffed and can handle a gamut of operations. Others might have physical facilities but limited staffing hours, or actually not staffed at all if you can believe it. (cities build hoping the CBP regional districts will provide the staff somehow).
Then there are airports that have facilities but are on-call where people drive in to service flights, or are available on adhoc basis only. Many of the more obscure you get the more limited in processing capacity (eg -150-pax/hr; only 1 flight at a time etc.).
Next you have a host of airports(incl some military bases) that essencially dont have formal facilities, but can service biz-jet, private charters(sports teams) etc. Most often the staffing here is on-call, but in the case of busier GA airports there might be fixed staffing hours.
Additionally you have levels of airports than handle inbound pre-cleared flights, but as part of their operations are required to have a plan in place to segregate and reclear the passengers if demanded.
Lastly you have a gamut of little airports many along the Canadian/Mexican border that are often 1-man operations meant to serve returning GA traffic. Drop in, get cleared and continue to your destination.
Hope this gives you a bit of a glimpse. I believe the CBP/DHS probably has a list posted somewhere of various levels of airport and services they offer.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Well there's a few major int'l airports outside the U.S. mainland, namely HNL, ANC, SJU, GUM, and SPN. Those facilities all have the exact same customs/immigration requirements and procedures as their mainland counterparts, although GUM/SPN are given slight leeway in terms of visa waiver nations for tourism purposes.
Your list is pretty comprehensive, but obvious additions are any other airport that has or had nonstop service to and from a non-preclearance foreign destination. Any airport with service to CUN, for instance, must be able to process a hundred or so pax coming off a single incoming int'l flight. That alone adds BDL, CMH, IND, MCI, MKE, and STL off the top of my head. Then you have some pretty big ones like CVG (DL-CDG) and MEM (DL-AMS), plus places like RSW and PBI that regularly handle lesser known international arrivals from the likes of Air Berlin and Bahamasair. Along those lines, you have airports like MDW, ONT, SMF, and FAT that handle flights to Mexico, albeit usually on Mexican carriers. Then start thinking of recently lost links, such as KOA (JL), BFL (MX), ABQ (F9 to PVR), SJC (AA to NRT), CLE (CO to London), MSY (AM, TA) and you have even more. Finally, keep in mind that any airport that handles foreign arrivals at all, even from pre-clearance airports in Canada or the Caribbean, must have the ability to re-screen the arriving flight. LGA, DCA, and SNA (until C opens) have waivers due to a lack of formal facilities but effective contingency plans, but all the other places from GEG to PWM that see regular AC service have to be able to process the flight if ever necessary.
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26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 860 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6491 times:
Quoting imag (Reply 10): How can an airport be an international airport, but not an international airport of entry? An example is Stewart International in NY. Would an airline/private jet have to land in Albany first to clear customs etc, then fly down? Also, if you leave Stewart, can you leave the country direct then?
As a GA pilot I use the system from time to time and this is how I understand it:
An "airport of entry" is an "international airport" in the US. In your example, KSWF, there is US Customs and Immigration available for private flights with 2 hours advance notice. There would be no need to stop in Albany to clear.
Many GA airports provide Customs with advance notice. The inspector might be based at a nearby bigger airport or harbor and have to drive to meet you. They will do this provided the airport you are arriving is an Airport of Entry and you notify them properly.
There are other restrictions when arriving from Central/South America or the Caribbean. With some exceptions a landing must be made at the nearest Airport of Entry after crossing the US border. This is primarily to help control drug smuggling.
In the US on the outbound there is no need to leave from an approved airport as there is no outbound inspection. There is a requirement to notify US Customs electronically via the Eapis system with details about itinerary and crew/passengers. Once approved a confirmation email is sent back to you and then good-to-go.
I know this system is different in other countries. Mexico, for example, requires an outbound landing and clearance before crossing their border if leaving from an airport without Customs services...last time I flew there anyway.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6438 times:
LRU is available as an airport of entry with 24 hours prior notification to US Customs. No scheduled flights at this point in time, unfortunately
5T6 (Santa Teresa, NM) used to be the same, but I don't think they're on the airport of entry list anymore There is a US Customs circle still painted on the ramp there... (you have to park the aircraft in the customs circle until US Customs inspects you and approves your paperwork. Occupants aren't allowed to leave until cleared by customs). Ironic, since there is now a land port of entry about 3 miles away from the airport. You'd think it wouldn't be too much to get a customs agent or two to drive to the airport.
When flying GA, you have to obtain the same entry cards for the USA that the airlines use, and you are required to have all passengers on board fill them out prior to arrival in the US
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blueflyer From Northern Mariana Islands, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 4225 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6341 times:
Technically, whether an airport is a port of entry has little to do whether it is, in the eyes of the government, an international airport. For instance, as far as CBP (US Customs & Borders Protection) is concerned, JFK is a port of entry but not an international airport (seriously). All international airports are ports of entry, but not all port of entry airports are international airports.
A port of entry is an airport (or other point of entry) where CBP will perform customs and immigration clearance. Ports of entries are divided in International Airports, Landings Rights Airports, Designated Airports and User Fee Airports.
An International Airport is an airport where international flights may land without prior permission from CBP, but they nevertheless need to give advance notice of their arrival. There are 31 International Airports in the US, all of which have CBP facilities and staff on site. 26point2 listed them in reply #2.
A Landings Right Airport is an airport where international flights need prior express consent from CBP to land. I may be wrong, but I *think* commercial international scheduled flights may ask for a blanket permission on a per-flight basis for an extended period (a year?) instead of requesting permission to land for every flight every day. All other flights must request consent for each flight electronically, I believe at the same time as APIS is filed. Many Landing Rights Airports have CBP facilities and staff on site, but not all do. JFK is a Landing Rights Airport.
Designated Airports are airports located close to the border with Mexico or the Southern coastlines (California, Florida, Gulf states). If I understand/remember correctly the regulations governing their use, any aircraft not operating a commercial flight and entering US air space below 23,000 ft must land at the nearest Designated Airport for clearance, whatever their ultimate destination may be. Aircraft operators may apply for an exemption, but I don't know under what conditions they are granted. Commercial flights and aircraft flying over 23,000 ft may fly directly to an International Airport, a Landings Right Airport or a User Fee Airport, or an international destination.
User-Fee Airports are airports where CBP estimates there is not enough traffic to provide clearance but agrees to do so nevertheless as long as someone else covers the cost. Most User-Fee Airports do not have CBP facilities or staff on site, I believe. Permission to land must be obtained just like Landing Rights Airports.
The thinking behind not making airports such as JFK an International Airport is that CBP is busy enough handling commercial operations that they don't want private flights coming in willy-nilly. In fact, not one of the ten busiest airports, and only two of the twenty busiest airports (DTW and MIA) are International Airports as far as CBP is concerned.
Yes, SMF can handle international arrivals and sees scheduled flights from Mexico, and has since 2002. They've been using a temporary International Arrivals Building to handle these flights, but once the new Terminal B is finished I assume it will have its own Customs and Immigration facilities.
IslandRob From US Virgin Islands, joined Apr 2011, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6219 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 14): Well there's a few major int'l airports outside the U.S. mainland, namely HNL, ANC, SJU, GUM, and SPN. Those facilities all have the exact same customs/immigration requirements and procedures as their mainland counterparts, although GUM/SPN are given slight leeway in terms of visa waiver nations for tourism purposes.
Don't forget STT (St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands).
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