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The Unbeatable Queen Of The Skies?  
User currently offlinewindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7401 times:

I mean no disrespect to anyones airliner feelings, but I just got off a Cathay 744, and to be honest it has been a while. I am still amazed of the comfort level! From engine start to landing, the noise was at a minimum, the aircon made more noise than the engines, and the landing gear made rotation and landing AND taxi almost feel like a dream.

I have flown on all Airbus and Boeings except for the A380 and B787(and 748:op), so I cannot comment on those, but if the A380 is equal or better than the 747 then I understand it's popularity.

But personally, I wish BA and CX would replace their 744 with 748s. The 744s are aging, but to me flying on it was a pleasure!

Am I wrong?

Boaz.


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7380 times:

This is going to be a flamefest - stand well back  

For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies. Nothing else (save for the A345/6) comes anywhere near.

I like a good Jumbo as much as anyone else but their day is long over now.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1884 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7339 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies.

You better run for cover NOW. Cue "The 747 will always remain the queen" usual suspect in 3... 2... 1...



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User currently offlinebillreid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7324 times:

If you ask 500 professional pilots they likely would 95% agree. Reason why, the Boeing planes beg to be flown. They are a real mans airplane. The Bus as good as they are are not Airplanes for the crews, they are video programming games that need to be programmed and not flown.

The customer probably prefer the A380 because bigger is usually better, right?
Nah, performance is usually the better one. Ask any woman what is more important size or quality.
The A380 is bigger but probably just lies there, doesn't do much of anything.



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User currently offlinegolfradio From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 766 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7324 times:

Since this is going to be a flamefest I will bite

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies. Nothing else (save for the A345/6) comes anywhere near.

There will be only one "Queen of the Skies", the 747. IMO, no one else can stake claim to that moniker. The A380 lacks the graceful lines of the 747. The A380 could be the "Whale of the Skies" or "Moby Dick of the Skies" (It does have that retarded look because of the high forehead) but definitely not the "Queen of the Skies".

I will now don my flamsuit.   


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7228 times:

The 747 was the first true widebody passenger jet. It was lightyears beyond it's time, thus it has always been called, "The Queen of the Skies." Putting that name to the A380 doesn't hold water, mainly because the A380 is nothing truly revolutionary, other than it's a full double deck. The 747 made serious headway for the normal public to be able to afford flying.

Call the A380 the King of the skies if you wish...747 will always be the queen. Not because I'm partial (Sorta) but in all reality, it's really part of its name, and has been for 40+ years.

UAL


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7227 times:

Quoting golfradio (Reply 4):
The A380 could be the "Whale of the Skies" or "Moby Dick of the Skies" (It does have that retarded look because of the high forehead) but definitely not the "Queen of the Skies".

   at the Moby Dick comment.


Hmm.. I thought it was settled with the A380 being the "King" or "Empress" now?  



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7226 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies

   absolutely if one has flown on both the A380 and 747.


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 7):
  absolutely if one has flown on both the A380 and 747.

Well I guess that brings up another question.. How do you define "Queen of the Skies" exactly?  



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User currently offlineflyabr From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7178 times:

Lookswise...yeah, the 747 is still the queen!

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7153 times:
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If we have to offend some people, might as well offend everyone.

There is no unbeatable queen of the skies. At best, there's a queen that has no successor yet, but like all other queens, her time will come. The B-17 and Lockheed Constellation were also titled queens of the skies...

For me, currently nothing beats the A380 upper-deck (and yes, I have flown Cathay, main-deck and upper-deck).



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User currently offline330guy From Ireland, joined Nov 2010, 453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7155 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies.

no its not.... its the king   

Honestly for me, Iv flown on all major types except the A380 and 777 and my faverouite so far is the A340-300 by a country mile



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User currently offlineGrid From Kazakhstan, joined Apr 2010, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7155 times:

I can't really say I gauge aircraft so much by type. US Airways 767? Forget it. ANA 767? Great. UA 747? No thanks. Asiana 747, yes please.


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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7124 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 8):
How do you define "Queen of the Skies" exactly?

I don't need to define it........it's completely subjective, and is equally so both ways.


User currently offline747srule From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7082 times:

See my user name.'Nuf said!!


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7082 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 7):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies

   absolutely if one has flown on both the A380 and 747.

Having flown Tristar, A300, A332, A333, A342, A343, A345, A346, A388, 762, 763, 764, 772A, 773A, 77W, 772ER, 77L, 741, 742, 743, 744 and MD11....

Yeah - no contest. The only thing that comes anywhere near the A388 and A340NG is the Tristar, for me. Everything else is just a plane.  

And before anyone gets all up on me about the 777 - its my most flown WB by a mile. Have over 40 legs on EK's triple sevens alone, and have flown a bunch of times on QR, EY, NH, 9W, BR, BA, UA, CO, AC, CX, AF, KL, TG, MH and SQ's. 77W my favourite and hammers a 744 in my opinion - a far nicer experience, hands down. But not as nice as A340NG or A380 which are different class.



[Edited 2011-07-04 10:09:07]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 8):
Quoting AirNZ (Reply 7):
  absolutely if one has flown on both the A380 and 747.

Well I guess that brings up another question.. How do you define "Queen of the Skies" exactly?
Quoting 330guy (Reply 11):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies.

no its not.... its the king

Exactly. In a perfect world, the "queen" of anything should be both beautiful and capable, whereas the "king" of anything only needs to be capable and looks don't matter for that job, hence the 747 is "The Queen of the Skies" and the A380 is "The King of the Skies".



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2613 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6980 times:
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Quoting windshear (Thread starter):
But personally, I wish BA and CX would replace their 744 with 748s. The 744s are aging, but to me flying on it was a pleasure!

Me too. I look forward to flying on the 747-8i. While I am admittedly a 777 fanboy, I'll always have a soft spot for the 747. Is it the Queen of the Skies? For me, that goes without saying. The Boeing 747 was the first widebody passenger jet ever built, and for 36 years it held the record of the largest commercial passenger airliner. Over 1400 examples have been built and the 747 line is still active.

The Boeing 747 revolutionised air travel like no other plane has to date. It was the 747 that allowed airlines to move a lot of people over a large distance, and that, in turn, made flying more affordable for the masses. Not to mention that it's still the prettiest subsonic commercial airliner ever built  

For me personally, I'd choose to fly the 747 (or the 777, for that matter) over any other aircraft type. Long live the Queen.

[Edited 2011-07-04 10:12:30]


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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3617 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6847 times:

I love the A380, but let's tell the thruth. The A380 was not the last of a long heritage of Clippers that Boeing design for Pan Am under Juan Tripp command. The A380, did not carry The Space Shuttle and it did carry four US Presidents on it's wings for 20 years. Now what jet did all that, the Boeing 747. The 747 will always be The Queen of The Skies, but the A380 is the Empress of The Skies.   

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 16):
In a perfect world, the "queen" of anything should be both beautiful and capable, whereas the "king" of anything only needs to be capable and looks don't matter for that job, hence the 747 is "The Queen of the Skies" and the A380 is "The King of the Skies".

  

Exactly the way I see it.



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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies.

Me too . The 748 is a nice aircraft but its nothing amazing compared to the A380 .


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 20):

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
For me, the A380 is the indisputable Queen of the Skies.

Me too . The 748 is a nice aircraft but its nothing amazing compared to the A380 .

I cant wait to try it. Love anything that isnt a boring old twin.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 16):
Exactly. In a perfect world, the "queen" of anything should be both beautiful and capable, whereas the "king" of anything only needs to be capable and looks don't matter for that job, hence the 747 is "The Queen of the Skies" and the A380 is "The King of the Skies".
Quoting KPDX (Reply 19):
Exactly the way I see it.

And as I pointed out.......it's entirely subjective, and no-one can be either right or wrong.


User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6571 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 7):
absolutely if one has flown on both the A380 and 747.
Quoting oa260 (Reply 20):
Me too . The 748 is a nice aircraft but its nothing amazing compared to the A380 .

I'd imagine that Concorde would beat them both  
And yes, the A380 is fugly, but impressive at the same time  



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6531 times:

Quoting gkirk (Reply 23):
I'd imagine that Concorde would beat them both

Actually, in my experience, not really. It was a magnificent experience indeed, in it's own right, but yet also a very different thing altogether from either the 747 ot A380. It was the pampered treatment and thrill of flying at Mach 2 which was the experience......but yet the aircraft itself makes a 757 feel like a widebody.


25 UTAH744 : In my day I flew with many FAs who would challenge you for the title of "Queen of the Skies."
26 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : Were any of them female?
27 SURFER : Would have to strongly disagree flew QF A380 SIN-LHR last year and no where near as comfortable and enjoyable ride as the 747 i flew in the opposite
28 JBirdAV8r : As far as "Queen of the Skies" goes, I think that trying to rip that nickname from the 747 and place it on an A380 is full of fanboy BS. It's like try
29 Post contains images cygnuschicago : ...and if you asked 500 a-net posters, 95% would say you made that statistic up Anyway, as Lady Gaga would say, don't be a drag, just be a Queen. Rig
30 Post contains images johnkrist : There is only one Queen of the skies, and it's the 747, a name she has worn for decades, and will still carry that name in the books 100 years from no
31 Ronaldo747 : Indeed. The A380 also lacks the character and the great history of the 747. It's simply a Whale Jet and a flying computer. Yes, it's extremly quiet a
32 goblin211 : I like how you use sex to make your point about planes. Takes some creativity to think of something like that. but size is important just not the MOS
33 Burkhard : Can't we agree that the Boeing 747 is the Queen of the Skies forever. The Airbus A 380 is the Empress of the Skies. Let us use these synonyms and ever
34 Post contains images Byrdluvs747 : Sorry to all the A380 fanboys, but that plane will never be the "Queen of the Skies". That title is forever etched on the hulls of the 747. Even thoug
35 Valorien : When it comes to a quiet cabin and comfortable ride, I think that the A380 wins hands down. I flew on Qantas LAX-SYD on the A380 and never flew on a m
36 Post contains images astuteman : All that needs to be said on this thread. The rest is name-calling. You should try the A380, if you get a chance, so that you can form your own opini
37 Post contains links and images b52murph : Not only will the 747 ALWAYS be queen of the skies, the 747 classic will hold that honor. PA even knew it and labeled one of their "acquired" AA birds
38 zkeoj : I recently had a chat with a retired pilot (ex BA and Cargolux). He started on the VC10, the L1011, then B747-200 and finally B747-400. I asked him w
39 par13del : I may not have worded it the same way but I think this sums up my opinion, unfortunately for the A380 backers, they never put a name out there, they
40 Post contains images PanAm1971 : This is like asking... "do you prefer coffee or tea? Coke or Pepsi? A smoke or a pancacke?"
41 Post contains images jetmatt777 : I'd prefer some TWA tea.
42 Babybus : I'll put my hand up to vote with that. All that legroom, all that standing space, all that headroom, all that extra baggage space, no noise. The A380
43 Post contains images CXB77L : I agree. The 747 is, and always will be the Queen of the Skies. I don't care if the A380 is bigger or more advanced, it can't be the Queen because th
44 Viscount724 : What do you mean by "all that legroom"? Seat pitch is the carrier's decision. And as far as I know,all current A380 operators have either 31 or 32 in
45 Post contains images mikey72 : Has to be the 747. Look at the lines on that ! The 748 is even better. Whilst the A380 is an absolute marvel she's not really a 'looker' is she. Gran
46 nonimaus : Like others have said; it's all a matter of personal preference, although the 747 is going to win the lion's share of votes for now. Personally, I've
47 Longhornmaniac : Ok, having just completed my first A380 flight (SIN-SYD QF 32, in J), I can now feel qualified to answer this question. The 747 is, and always will be
48 Post contains images BAViscount : I've yet to climb aboard an A380, but lookswise I don't believe it merits any kind of "royal" title...maybe the "bulldog of the skies", but to me it's
49 Post contains images BD338 : I flew a DL 744 DTW-AMS a couple of weeks ago and then a A330 AMS-DTW a few days later. I couldn't believe the difference in the noise levels, the 74
50 Braniff747SP : The Boeing 747. No question about it. A380? Whale of the skies, whatever you want to call it. But it won't ever be the queen, regardless of how advanc
51 Post contains images OzGlobal : May I respectfully request that each poster indicate if they have flown both 747 AND A380 in their post, just to give some perspective? I've flown bo
52 Post contains images PGNCS : Not if the sample of pilots you asked had actually flown both Boeing and Airbus aircraft, which I have. I have flown the 744; it's an OK plane but it
53 AirbusA6 : If the 747 is the Queen of the skies, and Concorde is the King of the skies, then the A380 must be the President of the Skies, the new modern leader.
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