lexkid12300 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 92 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7997 times:
I've been into aviation for quite some time and recently decided to take a day trip just to ride on a DC-9. My favorite plane is the Boeing 727 but i haven't been able to find any airlines still flying them commercially, so i figured the DC-9 would be the next closest thing as they both use very similar engines. I had originally planned to find a flight with an MD88, but then i learned Delta was still flying the DC-9 so i started looking for routes.
I ended up finding a flight with Delta from PVD-DTW-BWI and BWI-DTW-PVD, using a CRJ700, DC9, DC9, and Airbus A319 respectively for $59 and $79 for the return so i booked it!
So do you guys think i'm crazy for doing this? I'm leaving my local airport (PVD) 12:41pm and i'll be back home before midnight the same day.
And should i at all be worried about flying on this DC-9? It's scheduled to be a DC-9-51, so most likely it was manufactured anywhere between 1975 and 1980. It's definitely going to be the oldest plane i've ever flown in!
Nevertheless, i'm really excited about flying on it! The flight's on July 19th, so a week from tomorrow. I'm taking the girlfriend with me so i shouldn't get too bored, and we're seated in row 23 on the way down and 24 on the way back, right next to the beautiful JT8D's!
I am however disappointed about having to fly on the CRJ700 and A319... Are either of these airplanes "exciting" to fly on? The only planes i've ever flown on are the 737-200, 737-300, 737-700 and 767...
Nope. I have thousands of hours and thousands of legs in the DC-9 and have zero qualms with it. Enjoy the ride.
Quoting lexkid12300 (Thread starter): I am however disappointed about having to fly on the CRJ700 and A319... Are either of these airplanes "exciting" to fly on?
Well at least it's not a 50 seat CRJ, but a CRJ is never a favorite though I've never flown it as a pilot. I don't know why you'd be disappointed with an A-319; except for the L-1011 it my favorite aircraft that I have flown, certainly more so than a 767 and I detested everything about flying the 737. (Hate to tell you this, but while many disagree for some reason, the 727 and 737 were in a dead heat for years as my least favorite aircraft to fly.)
I personally have no interest in flying around just to do so, but if you are interested this sounds like a good trip to broaden your horizons, and you will find a DC-9 leg harder and harder to come by.
BAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7963 times:
I see from your profile that you haven't been here very long! Stick your nose into the Trip Reports forum, you'll soon see that you really had no reason to ask your question in the first place!! Enjoy.
Ladies & gentlemen this is Captain Tobias Wilcock welcoming you aboard Coconut Airways flight 372 to Bridgetown Barb
JetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1508 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7933 times:
Nope, you're not crazy! A lot of a.nutters are obsessed with the DC-9s and MD80s!
I for one had my first day trip last month and one of the reason that I flew was to fly on the 757! My next goal is to fly the 767, so I'll complete my Boeing List: 717, 727, 737, 747, 757 and 777. (The 787 isn't flying commercial yet so it doesn't count )
and as a side note, my first flight was on a DC-9
As for airbus, it's kinda hard to complete since the A300 and A310 is non-existent here in the US. But if we're talking about the "modern" Airbus A/C: I've flown the A319, A320, A321, A330, A340 and hopefully the A318 and A380 next year to semi-complete the list
MSNfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7920 times:
Of course not, I did the same thing on the only day trip I have ever taken back in 2008, flying from MSN-DTW-CMH and back. There is even a video trip report of it floating around somewhere deep in the TR forum. Enjoy them while they are still relatively accessible-you are already in good shape by sitting in the back for the full experience. Have a great trip!
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san747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4995 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7884 times:
I've done similar trips like that many times. My first 777 was part of a 4-flight itinerary that could have been 2, simply because I wanted to fly that 777!
I'm a big fan of domestic widebodies, and all throughout 2007 and 2010 when I worked for US and OO respectively, I tried (and never managed) to non-rev or get the time off to fly the one daily domestic UA 747 flight. I'll be trying again next time they put the 747 back on a domestic turn!
falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6277 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7855 times:
I have flown on DC-9s more than any other type so I usually wouldn't go out of my way to fly one, but I would go out of my way to fly on something I haven't flown on before. As the DC-9s dwindle in number I have changed my travel schedule so I could fly on a DC-9, over an oh so boring A319.
Railroad buffs did the same thing in the 1950s; going all over the US searching for the last steam locomotives. They were at it again in early 1971 riding the last non Amtrak intercity passenger trains,
lexkid12300 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7837 times:
Thanks for the support guys, glad to know i'm not as crazy as i thought!
When i'm on the plane i'll try to take some videos of the takeoffs and landings if the flight attendants don't give me flack about it.
One day i'd like to fly on the 747, but i'm still waiting for a flight less than $1000! If i ever need to go overseas i'll be sure to find a flight on the 747, but i know they'll be flying for many many more years so i'm in no rush! I live the BA livery of the 747.
I would literally give someone a months salary if they could get me on a 727. I've been tempted to call Fedex and ask if i could maybe "visit" their airplane here at PVD as it sits on the tarmac every Monday-Friday, but they don't exactly have a good record of letting people jumpseat... I've taken a picture of it from the terminal at PVD and posted it on wiki for TF Greene airport, i'd love to get closer to it...
RamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7820 times:
Make sure you get yourself a window seat in the 2nd-to-last row, or no more than a couple rows forward of that. Sitting so close to the engines on those things is a religious experience for an aviation nerd.
And no, you're absolutely not crazy. Kind of did the exact same thing recently, when I did MDW-DTW-BNA when I could have gone nonstop on WN... but DTW-BNA was a DC-9...and a -40 series at that, so I couldn't help myself.
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1703 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7811 times:
I did a DC-9 fun run myself, last month. I flew ATL-ORD, ORD-MSP, MSP-MKE, and MKE-ATL, one per day. I thoroughly enjoyed it. All flights went well, except the first one, which returned to the gate after pushback because the captain couldn't get the engines to start. He had to get an air cart to start them, then we were on our way.
Last summer, I did something similar, except I had three DC-9-30s and one DC-9-40.
Several years ago I did the same thing with 727s on Champion Air, and I've gone to Alaska just to fly on Reeve Electras and ERA Convair 580s. So I guess I'm crazier than you are.
UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2599 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7764 times:
No, you're not crazy, although your friends and family will probably think you are. Get used to that!
There are a hardcore among us who, instead of just talking about the older aircraft types we want to fly on, actually go out there and do it. We plan and share ideas in the following thread: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011 (by UK_Dispatcher Mar 11 2011 in Aviation Polls)
The DC-9 is a great aircraft to fly on. I have been to Africa twice just to fly on the last DC-9-10 series with East African Safari Air Express.
Check out my trip reports, as well as those from users like Loran & Plymspotter - and see some if the lengths we go to just to get on that elusive aircraft type!
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1052 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7756 times:
Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 10): Make sure you get yourself a window seat in the 2nd-to-last row, or no more than a couple rows forward of that. Sitting so close to the engines on those things is a religious experience for an aviation nerd.
But make sure you are not sitting in the very last row, so you actually get a window seat and not a wall seat!
Although the DC-9 is very quiet up front, it isn't so quiet in the rear, so unless you want to enjoy ringing ears for hours after the flight, bring ear plugs! I have been seated in the last few rows on DC-9s on many occasions, so I can tell you this from experience!
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1703 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7738 times:
I sat in row 23 on my last DC-9 flight, just ahead of the engine but behind the wing, for an excellent view. And I enjoyed the sound of the engines going rum rum rum rum rum on taxi out, something you just don't get to hear if you sit near the front.
e38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7675 times:
Quoting lexkid12300, "we're seated in row 23 on the way down and 24 on the way back,"
lexkid12300, these are good seats, hopefully you have 23AB or 23EF and 24AB or 24EF, as they provide a great view of the ground, a good view of the wing--to watch the flaps, ailerons, and spoilers/speed brakes operate--and will give you a terrific JT8D experience, but whatever you do, do not change your seats to any rows further aft, i.e. row 25 or row 26. The view from row 25 is partially obscured by the engine, and there is no view at all from row 26 (the last row). Even rows 21 and 22 are good rows to experience all of the previously mentioned elements.
As others have said, I also recommend a good pair of ear plugs. Even though you want the JT8D experience, it is VERY loud in the back of the DC9 and even with ear plugs, you will experience the full effect of the engines. You can always take them out if you desire. However, I especially recommend a good pair of ear plugs for your girlfriend. Remember, she may be quite as enthusiastic about the whole DC9 experience as you and the volume of noise in the back of the DC9 can be a very negative experience to some folks.
Enjoy the trip. Remember, when flying aboard the DC9, you will be experience a part of aviation history.
Also quoting lexkid12300, "So do you guys think i'm crazy for doing this?"
No, not at all. I have done the same thing myself.
One last quote from lexkid12300, "should i at all be worried about flying on this DC-9?"
It is probably the safest, rugged, most reliable aircraft you could ever fly on.
dstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1520 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7586 times:
Of course not, - from one who let three earlier inter island flights leave to ride on a DH7, this seems perfectly sane behaviour to me. However, wives or girlfriends tend to be less tolerant. Still remember a take off on a nearly empty Swissair DC9, went up like a rocket.
Quoting lexkid12300 (Thread starter): I'm taking the girlfriend with me so i shouldn't get too bored, and we're seated in row 23 on the way down and 24 on the way back, right next to the beautiful JT8D's!
If your girlfriend's not a plane enthusiast/geek; she might not like the engine noise back there.
My last DC-9 flight on NW (a DC-9-40 that originally was a NC bird) a few years back was towards the rear on a DTW-PHL flight and although the plane was hushkitted, it still can get a bit loud.
[Edited 2011-07-15 11:24:06]
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e38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7524 times:
Quoting PHLBOS (reply 22), "My last DC-9 flight on NW (a DC-9-40 that originally was a NC bird) . . ."
Chris, just as a point of clarification, and something you might find of interest for your records, if your last DC-9 flight was on a DC9-40 series, it would have been previously flown by Scandinavian Airline System (SAS).
North Central never actually flew any DC9-40 aircraft; the DC9-40s that Northwest flew were all acquired after 1986 (after the North Central merger) and were acquired directly from SAS in 1991.
They were all DC9-41 series and Northwest operated a total of 12 of them.
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