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Rare Flights In Europe: Suggestions?  
User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1468 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4655 times:

and by rare I mean 5th freedom flights or one that involves rare A/C such as the A300, A310, 737 Classics, 747SP/-100/-200/-300, etc or an interesting airline. I am not familiar with Europe and will be visiting numerous European nations in 2012 and I'm looking for any suggestions at all. Preferably flights that aren't typical in the US or North America. I'd like to keep it within the UK, France, Germany, Italy and Scandinavia as we will be visiting those countries but if there's anything interesting, feel free to share it!

JetBlue777


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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4650 times:

A couple between the countries you will be visiting:

Ethiopian fly ARN - FCO a few times a week
Kuwait fly FCO - CDG, usually on an A300

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlineswissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4597 times:

Not the all the countries you wanted:
FRA-MAD vv with LA
FRA-GVA vv with KU (GVA is still close to France at least)
VIE-ZRH ow with KE
MAD-AMS ow with KE

I also found a PK flight on CDG-FRA on day 7 but it only appears in the timetable but not in the availability list. Might be without local traffic rights.

Out of ZRH we used to have lots of connections with FRA (UL), LON (HM), MAN (CX, SQ), AMS (CX, TG, SQ), CDG (SA) but all of them gone and changed to turn around only.



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

MUC-MAN vv with Singapore Airlines 77W is another to add to the list above.

Rob!   


User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 201 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

maybe you can try to get a flight with KLM on a Fokker70 oder Fokker100 before they go out of service. These planes are for sure not often found but KLM still offers many routes with them

PHILIP



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

The swedish airline Nextjet is the only operator in the world today who operates the ATP. They have several domestic routes flown with this aircraft. Maybe something to look in to.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Not what you mean, but you could easily - and sometimes very cheaply, e.g. from £19.95 one-way - fly the L4T, D28, and SWM with IOM-based Manx2.


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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting swissgabe (Reply 2):
FRA-GVA vv with KU (GVA is still close to France at least)

Been on that flight three days ago (Sat), it was an early A340-313 (9K-ANB).

During the summer months it is the A343, in Winter the A300. I will ride it again when the A300 is back in September. Business fare was only CHF 289.

Ideally that flight can connect to the Pakistan A310, flying FRA-AMS. I need to check which days though and if a connection is possible on Saturdays.

Quoting photophil (Reply 4):
maybe you can try to get a flight with KLM on a Fokker70 oder Fokker100 before they go out of service.

Is there any date when this will happen? Still missing the F-70 on my list, including the 747-400M....



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User currently offlinerobso2 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2010, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Loads of airlines operate 737 classics... try LH, or BA ex LGW for some...

[Edited 2011-07-12 10:52:31]


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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 7):
Still missing the F-70 on my list

F70s fly multiple times per day AMS-NWI, but the cost of a one-way is prohibitive. Unless you have some Skyteam (DL) miles to burn...

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2469 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
by rare I mean 5th freedom flights or one that involves rare A/C such as the A300, A310, 737 Classics, 747SP/-100/-200/-300, etc or an interesting airline.
Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
I'd like to keep it within the UK, France, Germany, Italy and Scandinavia

Far too much to tell... What about:

1. TOR AIR aka SKY MIDDLE EAST flying A320 op. by BH AIR BULGARIA from London to Stockholm?! http://www.torair.com/
2. or what about HELLENIC IMPERIAL flying B737 op. by Aurelia of Lithuania from London to Athens? http://www.hellenicairways.com/
3. maybe VIKING HELLAS A320/MD83 from Frankfurt to Göteborg or Malmö? http://www.flyviking.gr/
4. fancy BIG ones? AIR CHINA A330 from MUC to ATH...

Njoy your time in Europe...


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 9):
F70s fly multiple times per day AMS-NWI, but the cost of a one-way is prohibitive. Unless you have some Skyteam (DL) miles to burn...

KL's F70's are in abundance, plying numerous routes to tthe UK, to Germany and many more places around - that it, as long as they do not go tech.
-HT



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

Some more ideas:
What about Flying Loganair DHC-6 Twinotter between Glasgow and the island of Barra including landing on the beach ? Can be booked via flyBE's website but better be booked well in advance. If you should happen to stay on Barra for any reason, also a shorter roundtrip BRR - BEB (Benbecula) - BRR is possible (2 weeks ago 7 out of 10 pax on that flight BRR to BEB flew straight back to BRR w/o leaving the a/c).



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Or fly along the coast of Norway on WF's multi-stop services like KKN (Kirkenes) to TOS with 5 stops on a Dash8-200. Other (shorter) flights also available, some runways no longer than 800 m.

-HT



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User currently offlineEddyAlbena From Netherlands, joined Nov 2010, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Not inter-Europe, but Air Transat still operates A310 on their routes to Europe.

User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 1):
Ethiopian fly ARN - FCO a few times a week
Kuwait fly FCO - CDG, usually on an A300

Thanks. I'm interested on flying with Ethiopian on the route mentioned, however, the flight time seems to be inconvenient, but I could make an exception.

Quoting swissgabe (Reply 2):
VIE-ZRH ow with KE
MAD-AMS ow with KE

Nice.

Quoting B742 (Reply 3):

MUC-MAN vv with Singapore Airlines 77W is another to add to the list above.

I'd love to fly with SQ and of course the 77W.

Quoting debonair (Reply 10):
4. fancy BIG ones? AIR CHINA A330 from MUC to ATH...

Nice. Never knew this route existed, I'll look into that.


Thanks for all your replies!



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 7):
Ideally that flight can connect to the Pakistan A310, flying FRA-AMS. I need to check which days though and if a connection is possible on Saturdays.

As far as I know PK does not have traffic rights on the FRA-AMS sector?



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User currently offlineSomedayTrijet From Ecuador, joined Nov 2010, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

You should check out this thread, which lists all 5th freedom flights in Europe.

List Of All 5th Freedom Flights In Europe.

Here are some other ideas:

- The ET flight ARN-FCO is operated by a 757, so that may not be so exciting for you, considering that 757s are
common in the US.

- 737 classics shouldn't be to hard to find. LH operates them, as do BA ex LGW. SK should also operate some
domestic Norway flights. You could combine that with a flight on the Wideroe Dash-8, as HT said. I'm sure that would
be a fascinating experience, as Norway is a very beautiful country (But sadly, one of the most expensive countries too!)

- SK operates the rare 736 on a lot of destinations from ARN and OSL, if that's what you would want.

- Sweden also offers quite much on the domestic side. Nextjet has the very rare ATP (as said before) and Skyways operates the Fokker 50. Golden Air operates Saabs (both 340s and 2000s) on domestic routes.

- Sun-Air operates the Dornier 328 (both the prop and the JET version) on some routes from BMA, including BMA-HEL and BMA-BLL.

- 747 classics would hard, if not impossible to fly on a intra-Europe hop.

- Brit Air (France) and Air Nostrum (Spain) operates the CRJ1000 on regional routes.



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