industrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 346 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 2209 times:
Hi All
Very hypothetically.. If I was to buy the cheapest fare class on AA from say ORD to LAX, on a tuesday. and the flight was full, is it likely I could be offered an upgrade from the self service KIOSK to First class for a fee ?
Ie upgrade from cheapest Q class fare to F ?
If you have experience with this, I would love to hear from you ... How full it was, how much extra you were charged ?
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 48 Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
I suppose stranger things have happened, but I can almost guarantee you that on that route, by the time all the elites have been accommodated, your chances of getting a kiosk upgrade are just a little better than 0.
But yes, you can be offered a kiosk upgrade from any discounted fare, whether it's O, Q, or N, on up.
I haven't noticed any particular pattern in Y for when I've been offered a kiosk upgrade. Obviously, there was room in F, but I don't know about Y.
Generally speaking, you'll see this sort of order with upgrades:
-Exec Plat, 100 hours out
-Platinum, 48 hours out (I think)
-Gold, 24 hours out
Day of Departure:
-Elite Op ups
-kiosk upgrades
I would actually say you're more likely to get a kiosk upgrade offer if neither cabin is full, but that's based on nothing but semi-anecdotal evidence.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1985 times:
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1): on that route, by the time all the elites have been accommodated, your chances of getting a kiosk upgrade are just a little better than 0.
- I would agree with this 110%. On what is basically a hub-to-hub flight with likely at least a couple fare paying premium passengers on top of tons of high ranking AAdvantage customers, your odds are...well, not good to say the least. I regularly see upgrade standby lists on ORD-LAX-ORD of 30+ people.
TCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1983 times:
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1): I would actually say you're more likely to get a kiosk upgrade offer if neither cabin is full, but that's based on nothing but semi-anecdotal evidence.
I asked on SQ once and was told they only upgrade if Y is full and J/F isn't....
Lufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 691 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
Quoting TCASAlert (Reply 4): I asked on SQ once and was told they only upgrade if Y is full and J/F isn't....
It is really only among US carriers that they fill the F cabin up fill. Most international airlines do not UPG unless they need to. I have been told the same thing on NH, LH, OZ, SA etc.
They see it as a prestige thing. They would rather have a half empty but more prestigious business cabin- although to be fair US carriers play by much different rules internationally.
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- I would agree with this 110%. On what is basically a hub-to-hub flight with likely at least a couple fare paying premium passengers on top of tons of high ranking AAdvantage customers, your odds are...well, not good to say the least. I regularly see upgrade standby lists on ORD-LAX-ORD of 30+ people. 
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