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Aircraft That Had Short Lives  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5961 posts, RR: 17
Posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5406 times:

Some people die at childberth, some live past 100.
It's the same with airplanes. Some live well past 100.......
Witness (cough)


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......and some have really short lifespans

Braniff 707-227, N7071, , & AF A330-300 are the only ones that were lost before delivery that I am aware of, Oh.....and this one......Ethiad A340-600



Any others?




And a few bit the dust shortly after delivery.

West Coast DC-9 N9104 within a week.

Lets not forget Eastern 401 operated by N310EA only 6 months after delivery.

Seem to remember 727-100s from United and Pan Am, but not sure on the details. BTW, the UA is not the SLC one I'm thinking about, but right there - that was less than 2 years old. Ditto an AA 727-100 that crashed approaching CVG. Both SLC and CVG crashed were 3 days apart, both aircraft less than 1-2(/) years old.

What about the Hughes Air West DC-9-30 (N9345) that collided with a fighter over California in 1971, how old was that aircraft?

2 AF birds: A320 that crashed during airshow in 1988. That had to be spankin' new Didn't they lose a brand new A340 in a hangar fire?

United DC-8 over Brooklyn?


What are some others? I used to have quite a list.

Lets define short as less than 2 years.


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
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User currently offlinecubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22313 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5364 times:

Hadn't the G3 738 that had the midair with the Legacy in 2006 or so been delivered just a couple of weeks before that happened?


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User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

Quoting cubsrule (Reply 1):
Hadn't the G3 738 that had the midair with the Legacy in 2006 or so been delivered just a couple of weeks before that happened?

Was this the collision in Brazil? In that case, I believe the bizjet was on its delivery flight.


User currently offlinecubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22313 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5259 times:

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 2):
Was this the collision in Brazil?

Yes and yes - but I think the 738 was quite new as well.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 786 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Global 5000 C-GXPR (Tim Horton's) crashed with less than 100 hrs on her.

[Edited 2011-09-01 16:35:25]

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 2):
I believe the bizjet was on its delivery flight.

The Legacy was not lost...



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlinecubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22313 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
The Legacy was not lost...

Indeed, it's still flying, isn't it?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5132 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
Lets not forget Eastern 401 operated by N310EA only 6 months after delivery.


Aug 18 to Dec 29, 1972.

Four months eleven days.

987 flt hrs 505 cycles


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

Quoting cubsrule (Reply 6):
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
The Legacy was not lost...

Indeed, it's still flying, isn't it?

Recent news item said it was for sale after finally being repaired. Although the aircraft is about 5 years old it only had about 30 flying hours.


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4964 times:
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Quoting cubsrule (Reply 3):
Yes and yes - but I think the 738 was quite new as well.

202 flight hours - 162 cycles. Very new.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
Recent news item said it was for sale after finally being repaired. Although the aircraft is about 5 years old it only had about 30 flying hours.

It has been recovered and flown to Cleveland for further work.


User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

The 2 I know of CV-880 N8804E Delivered to Delta 6 May 1960 and crashed on a training flight 23 May 1960 and DC-6B N91303 Delivered to Western 10 Dec 1952 and crashed 20 Apr 1953.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

A few years ago (1938) but the web site below describes a Lockheed Super Electra (Model 14) s/n 1439 that crashed on its delivery flight.

http://www.qent.com/~carcomm/wreck17.htm


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
United DC-8 over Brooklyn?

It was just under a year old at the time of that December 16, 1960 accident. Delivered December 22, 1959. That mid-air collision with the TWA L-1049 was the first DC-8 crash.

A month later, January 19, 1961, AM (then known as Aeronaves de Mexico) lost a DC-8-21 in an aborted takeoff crash and fire at JFK (then IDL) with 4 fatalities (of 106 aboard). That aircraft was less than 3 months old. Delivered to Eastern October 28, 1960 and leased to AM.

On May 30, 1961, the 3rd DC-8 loss involved a KLM DC-8-53 being operated for VIASA. It crashed into the Atlantic, killing all 61 aboard, on the LIS-SMA sector of a FCO-MAD-LIS-SMA-CCS flight. That aircrrat was only a month old, delivered May 1, 1961, with 209 hours.

On July 7, 1962, an AZ DC-8-43 crashed approaching BOM due to a navigation error, killing all 94 aboard. The aircraft was less than 4 months old, delivered March 24, 1962.

The AC (then TCA) DC-8-54F combi that crashed shortly after takeoff from YUL on November 29, 1963, killing all 118 aboard, was 9 months old.

The Canadian Pacific DC-8-43 that crashed on landing at HND on March 4, 1966, killing 64 of the 72 aboard, was less than 5 months old.

AC lost a DC-8-63 at YYZ on July 5, 1970, killing all 109 aboard. It was only a little over 2 months old, delivered April 30, 1970, with just 453 hours.

AA lost a 3-month old 707-123 on a training flight near NYC on August 15, 1959, killing the 5 crew.

A 4-month old AF 707-328 crashed approaching PTP in poor weather on June 22, 1962, killing all 119 aboard. That was their 2nd fatal 707 crash in 3 weeks and their 3rd 707 loss in 11 molnths. Another 707-328 had crashed just after takeoff from ORY on February 3, 1962, killing 130 of the 132 aboard (that aircraft was just under 2 years old). They lostt another 707-328 in a non-fatal aborted takeoff accident at HAM on July 27, 1961 (that aircraft also about 2 years old)..

LH lost a 7-month old 720B on a training flight in December 1961, killing the crew.

The first 727 loss, a UA 727-100 that crashed into Lake Michigan approaching ORD on August 16, 1965, killing all 30 aboard, was 3 months old, delivered May 18, 1965.

The next 727 crash, an AA 727-100 approaching CVG on November 8, 1965, killing 58 of the 62 aboard, was a 5 month old aircraft.

The third 727 to crash, another UA 727-100 approaching SLC on November 11, 1965 (3 days after the AA crash), with 43 fatalities of 91 aboard, was 9 months old.

And the fourth 727 lost, an NH 727-100 that crashed into Tokyo Bay approaching HND on February 4, 1966, killing all 133 aboard, was 11 months old.

[Edited 2011-09-01 18:43:51]

[Edited 2011-09-01 18:45:50]

User currently offlineridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

Skywest Metro N2721M crash on Jan 15, 1990 at Elko, was less than 2 yrs old

http://www.aircraftone.com/aircraft/accidents/20001212X22403.asp


User currently offlineCairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

How about the Comet 1 aircraft? Didn't Canadian Pacific loose one on delivery....casing them to cancel their order? The others that crashed could not have had more than a year each of flight time.

User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11932 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
Witness (cough)

Or:


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User currently offlineTCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

G-OBME, BD 737-400.


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10th 737-400 delivered, delivered 15 Oct 1988, crashed at EMA 8 Jan 1989


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Quoting CairnterriAIR (Reply 14):
How about the Comet 1 aircraft? Didn't Canadian Pacific loose one on delivery....causing them to cancel their order?

Yes, March 3, 1953 on takeoff at KHI on the delivery flight.


User currently offlineJA8119 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2011, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

As far as I know, the Afriqiyah A330 that crashed in 2010 was very new when it crashed. I think that it was just about a year old then.

User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Canadian Pacific Comet I CF-CUN did not even enter into service as it crashed on take off from KHI during its delivery flight to Australia on March 3rd 1953 ...

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
......and some have really short lifespans

Braniff 707-227, N7071, , & AF A330-300 are the only ones that were lost before delivery

AF never ordered or operated any A330-300.

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
2 AF birds: A320 that crashed during airshow in 1988. That had to be spankin' new Didn't they lose a brand new A340 in a hangar fire?

The A320-100 F-GFKC was delivered to AF on June 23rd 1988. It crashed 3 days later on June 26h 1988.

The A340-200 F-GNIA, initially ordered by UTA, was delivered to AF in May 1993. It was destroyed by a fire in a hangar at CDG in January 1994.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5961 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 19):
AF never ordered or operated any A330-300.

My bad, I seem to remember a pre-delivery, all white A330-300 crashing or burning up or something.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 20):
My bad, I seem to remember a pre-delivery, all white A330-300 crashing or burning up or something.

In June 1994, an A330-300 crashed on take off from TLS during a test flight. It was F-WWKH (msn 042), operated by Airbus Industries.
The aircraft was due to be delivered to Malaysia Airlines.


User currently offlineryan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1496 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Didn't Air New Zealand lose a DC 8 in a training accident in Auckland?.


South Australian Spotter
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting ryan h (Reply 22):
Didn't Air New Zealand lose a DC 8 in a training accident in Auckland?.

Correct. The aircraft was less than a year old. That was in July 1966, a DC8-52 (ZK-NZB).


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3861 times:

This Swissair Convair 440 crashed at SNN on its delivery flight in 1956.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19560715-1


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