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How Not To Be That Passenger That Everyone Loathes  
User currently offlinethreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 9
Posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

The thread about the window shades prompted me to muse about other air-travel related annoyances. Anytime a large group of strangers is forced into close contact with each other, there are bound to arise some minor and perhaps not so trivial irritations. So although the readers of this forum consist of but a tiny percentage of the traveling public at large, maybe, with a minuscule shred of hope, we can identify and discuss some of the more common issues in the slight hope that we can reduce their occurrence.

Well, OK, perhaps that's a pipe dream. But - at the risk of sounding like a grumpy old curmudgeon - here's a few to get the discussion started. What bothers you?

I'm not sure that anet member aviateur has covered this in his 'Ask the Pilot' column. Patrick, are you out there? You certainly have a more broad readership than the rest of us; how can we improve our own behaviour to make air travel just a bit more civilized?

- Window shades. People who insist upon leaving them open in the evening hours regardless of the light outside often tend not to realize that the surrounding 20 or so passengers can't sleep nor properly view their in-flight entertainment. Please close your shades, or peek out of a crack at the bottom if flying over particularly compelling scenery.

- Flight attendants. We understand you have to announce whenever the seatbelt sign is illuminated. Brevity is appreciated. A simple "please sit down and fasten your seatbelts" is infinitely preferred to the read-along "Ladies and gentlemen, the, uh, captain has turned on the seatbelt sign at this time we, ahh, ask you to return to your seats and fasten your safety belts and refrain from going to the bathroom until, errr, the seatbelt sign has been turned off............mesdames at monsieurs, le commandant....."

- Gate lice who crowd the departure gate and often ignore the order of boarding.

- Gate agents who fail to enforce that order of boarding.

- People who take advantage of the "if you are traveling with children and require assistance" feature. If your kid can walk, you don't need more time to board.

- The carry-on bag limits. People who abuse them, or stuff their bags above seat 12A then move back to 34G, or bring 2 - 3 bags into the cabin...and the flight attendants who fail to enforce the rule. "Let me help you sir, I'll have them store your overstuffed Samsonite in the hold..." A great example recently was on a flight from AUS to DFW on an MD-80 whee a couple boarded first with their 2 small kids (aged 3 and 5-ish and moving just fine) with NINE carry-on bags between them (plus a purse and laptop), all of which went into overhead bins along the entire length of the cabin.

- Mobile phones. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should. We all know they don't affect the plane's avionics and that several airlines now permit their use once off the active runway. By all means when you land, check your emails, voicemails etc. But the high-volume call to tell your friend that "we've just landed and are taxiing in" doesn't help anybody. You're gonna have to make another call anyway to coordinate your meet-up; please wait until actually off the plane and you have a better idea of when you'll arrive curbside.

- Standing in the aisle the instant the seatbelt sign is turned off at the arrival gate. Stand. Collect your overhead items. Maybe pass their bag to the person in your row. The SIT BACK DOWN. We don't particularly enjoy your crotch at eye level, nor your efforts to disembark several rows ahead of where you were sitting.

- There is usually a line painted on the floor a metre or two from the baggage carousel. Stand behind it as you wait. Please don't occupy the space immediately beside the belt. Sure, you can easily retrieve your bags when they come by. Unfortunately, nobody else can.

Are these familiar? Or am I the only curmudgeon on the flight?


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User currently offlineAI From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5352 times:

My pet hate is the pax who reclines his seat all the way back without any consideration, especially on short haul flights.

User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
A great example recently was on a flight from AUS to DFW on an MD-80 whee a couple boarded first with their 2 small kids (aged 3 and 5-ish and moving just fine) with NINE carry-on bags between them (plus a purse and laptop), all of which went into overhead bins along the entire length of the cabin

This foul should be charged to the gate agent for not enforcing the carry-on bag rule.

Upon further review: 3 bags over limit (9 bags, 1 laptop, 1 purse = 11 total bags. Family of 4 allowed 8 carry ons)

Anyone know how much Bag Fee revenue was allowed to slip thru the crack?


User currently offlinePITingres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1144 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

How about the business traveler who, after getting his bag into the overhead, stands in the aisle and ever so slowly and deliberately takes off his jacket, carefully folds it, and then sticks it into the bin. (Where it has no room to lie flat and so ends up getting wrinkled anyway.) Move out of the aisle, jerk, we're not impressed...


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User currently offlinelows From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5172 times:

The guy who gets the window seat and has fifty cokes and then has to go to the bathroom 20 times. This happened to me on LHR-EWR one time on a VA 744. I was trying to sleep, as I still had to change for Amtrak in NYC and then had a three hour or so Amtrak ride (I should have just gone direct, but I didn't do the booking) to ALB. I was worried the woman next to me was going to punch him. She made a theatrical sigh and gave him an awful look every time he did. He got up, I think five or six times over the flight.

User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
We all know they don't affect the plane's avionics

Actually we don't - this is just as much of a myth as "turning on your cell phone will instantly cause a nosedive!" There have been plenty of tests done that have shown certain types of cell phones *can* interfere with electrical signals in airplanes, especially if there is any fraying of the wiring's insulation (as can happen over a long period of time). Would it happen often? No. Could it? Yes. That's why the rule exists. There's no such thing as "this would happen so infrequently that we may as well allow it" when it comes to aviation safety. If something *can* happen on an airplane, it eventually will happen.

So yes, people should have their phones turned off whenever they're required to do so. But not just because the crew tells them to; they should do it because it's the right thing to do. It's no different than wearing a seat belt when you're seated. Sure, it's highly unlikely that you're going to be involved in turbulence that either causes an injury to you, or causes you to fly around the cabin and cause an injury to someone else. But both of those things *can* happen. And wearing a seat belt is such a simple thing that causes such minor inconvenience that it's just stupid not to do it.



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User currently offlinecoopdogyo From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5092 times:

People who don't do anything when I ask to have their kid stop kicking the back of my seat.

User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2613 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5065 times:
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Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Window shades. People who insist upon leaving them open in the evening hours regardless of the light outside often tend not to realize that the surrounding 20 or so passengers can't sleep nor properly view their in-flight entertainment. Please close your shades, or peek out of a crack at the bottom if flying over particularly compelling scenery.

Sigh ....  

People who insist on telling others to have them closed, denying them a chance of looking out the window at some amazing scenery outside. They should instead bring eye masks so the light from the window won't bother them.

However, I do agree with everything else you said.



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User currently offlinecomair25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 7):

+1
I chose that window seat for a reason.   If I wasnt interested in looking outside I wouldn't have selected a window seat. Now if its a long haul, thats a different story as I will 99% of the time fall asleep myself.


User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3017 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Window shades. People who insist upon leaving them open
Nope. If total darkness is necessary for you to sleep, it is on you to take care of yourself and bring eyeshades. I can't sleep on planes, I like to look out the window, and I'm not your mommy, so I'll look outside thank you.

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Flight attendants. We understand you have to announce whenever the seatbelt sign is illuminated. Brevity is appreciated
Don't disagree, but this is not gonna happen in a world infested with lawyers.

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Gate agents who fail to enforce that order of boarding.
Yup.

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
People who take advantage of the "if you are traveling with children and require assistance" feature. If your kid can walk, you don't need more time to board.
Our child has autism, and looks "okay" on the outside. He can walk, but if forced to do so in a pushing and shoving crowd, it will end very badly for all involved and nearby. You don't know everyone's story. Worry about your own business.

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
The carry-on bag limits. People who abuse them, or stuff their bags above seat 12A then move back to 34G, or bring 2 - 3 bags into the cabin...and the flight attendants who fail to enforce the rule.
Couldn't agree more.

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Mobile phones. We all know they don't affect the plane's avionics
No we don't. No matter what the internet may tell you.


Edit: Delete snarky comment and link to netjets.



[Edited 2011-10-31 07:57:29]


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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
- People who take advantage of the "if you are traveling with children and require assistance" feature. If your kid can walk, you don't need more time to board.

IMO, all families with children should pre-board if the airline allows for it. Get them on the plane, and in their seats before the rest, as kids during boarding are often the ones that slow everything down. When they pre-board with little stress, everything goes better.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

in no particular order....

1) Passengers "requiring extra time to board"....who look like they could run a marathon

2) A large rollaboard, a large briefcase AND a laptop bag....since when was that one carry on and one small personal item?

3) Anyone bringing on a suit carrier....no way that would ever fit in a bag sizer.

4) The person who boards, puts carry on in overhead and then 2 minutes later gets up and blocks the aisle to get book/pen/laptop/ etc. out of bag...sit down for crying out loud, then we can all leave and then get your "essential"..better yet, plan ahead and get it out before you get on.

5) In a similar vein, the person who gets on board and then decides they must go to the forward lavatory before take off, fighting against the crowd all the way....what was wrong with the 30 minutes they were in the terminal?

6) 0.5 seconds after touchdown the person on their cellphone with "we've just landed, I'll call you when I get to the gate" which of course they do, and then again when they are getting off the plane...these people are the entire reason cellphones should never ever be considered to be allowed in flight.

7) 3 feet off the runway and SLAM...seat in front straight back into your knees....seat recline should be banned on all flights on less then 4 hours...it's not that the 3" recline moves the experience from miserable to world class.

8) Gate lice...get out of the way....group 6 does not come straight after 1.

9) or....you could be the young lady from Winnipeg, who many years ago on a flight from MSP to AMS proceeded to tell me her entire life story....just what I needed for 8 hours  


User currently offlineQFFlyer From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
Window shades. People who insist upon leaving them open in the evening hours regardless of the light outside often tend not to realize that the surrounding 20 or so passengers can't sleep nor properly view their in-flight entertainment. Please close your shades, or peek out of a crack at the bottom if flying over particularly compelling scenery

We all need to be considerate, but I still don't understand why people who want the shades shut have or think they have priority over those who want to enjoy the scenery.
I choose daylight flights not only for the scenery, but also because I want to stay awake to help adjust to time zones. Its not easy to stay awke when the cabin is dark.
Those who want to sleep, you have eyeshades...what do those who want to enjoy the view or stay awake have?


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2613 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4866 times:
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Quoting QFFlyer (Reply 12):
Those who want to sleep, you have eyeshades...what do those who want to enjoy the view or stay awake have?

  

Exactly. If window shades are pulled down, those who want to look outside have no option remaining to them, whereas those who want some darkness can always wear eye masks to block out the light. Why force everyone to live in darkness just because some people want to sleep?



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 9):
Nope. If total darkness is necessary for you to sleep, it is on you to take care of yourself and bring eyeshades.

I agree. I need total darkness. In fact, I like to cocoon myself under a blanket (that I bring myself)...I'm one of those guys that completely covers my head under the blanket. Over years of international long distance flying for work, I have found this to be the one sure fire way to get a decent nights sleep on the plane. But, I take it upon me to bring the essentials required for me to get a good nights sleep.

This is especially true on, say, ORD/DFW-NRT when you fly entirely during the day. I still wants a decent nights sleep, and can do so...with my method, with the tools I bring myself.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
these people are the entire reason cellphones should never ever be considered to be allowed in flight.

Well if they are using them after landing, they technically aren't using them in flight  


User currently offlinePI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 674 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4818 times:
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The charmer who washes down a plate of chips and salsa with chili con queso and 2 bean burritos with 3 beers, aided by cabin pressurization who leave silent and deadly smelling reminders of their food intake....
along with Mom and Pop (with or without kids) who bring homemade food along to share the sights and smells of 3 or 4 hour old food...........trust me room temperature tuna salad sandwiches are wretched smelling and will turn the toughest gut.



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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4799 times:

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 15):
The charmer who washes down a plate of chips and salsa with chili con queso and 2 bean burritos with 3 beers, aided by cabin pressurization who leave silent and deadly smelling reminders of their food intake....
along with Mom and Pop (with or without kids) who bring homemade food along to share the sights and smells of 3 or 4 hour old food...........trust me room temperature tuna salad sandwiches are wretched smelling and will turn the toughest gut.

Hit the nail on the head. Airlines should make a list of recommended food. Bagels, chocolate chip cookies, granola bars: Yes. That triple cheeseburger that you bought from the airport McDonalds? No.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
7) 3 feet off the runway and SLAM...seat in front straight back into your knees....seat recline should be banned on all flights on less then 4 hours...it's not that the 3" recline moves the experience from miserable to world class.

I don't have an issue with people reclining on flights; I do it too, but there are considerate ways of reclining.

As for me:
--People who disregard the numerous and repetitive security signs before the lines start only to later take their sweet time to hold up the line as they remove everything, have to go through twice because they didn't remove their laptop and shoes, then they forgot to take off their belt, then their phone is in their pocket... Multiply this by a factor of ten. If I were an airport architect, I would create areas before the metal detectors where people could sit, remove their belongings, discard liquids, bag toiletries, and then que.



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

Exactly, I agree with the people about the eye shades. I mean, I picked the window seat for a reason, if you want to sleep, pick a window seat too and pull your window shade down and sleep.

Why should I be considerate to you and you not to me???

Adam



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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
"we've just landed, I'll call you when I get to the gate"

Unless they're being rudely loud, I don't see how that's your business. When I take a trip to see my folks we have a system...If I call when boarding is complete it's about the right time for my dad to leave home to come pick me up. If he gets there early he goes to a beer store near the airport, so if I let him know we have landed he knows to finish browsing, check out, and pull around to the terminal with almost perfect timing. Of course, I also know how to send a text, so I won't be the person to annoy you, just saying that there can be a reason people do that.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
.it's not that the 3" recline moves the experience from miserable to world class.

It can when you have chronic back pain, which I do. Totally with you regarding people slamming the seat backwards though...although it has happened that if I lower it slowly the person behind will push me back forwards. So I can actually see a reason someone might do this as well.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 17):
I agree with the people about the eye shades.

I have an even better solution...fly Asian carriers which force the issue. Either you lower your shade or the FA will.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4699 times:

Quoting threepoint (Thread starter):
- The carry-on bag limits. People who abuse them, or stuff their bags above seat 12A then move back to 34G, or bring 2 - 3 bags into the cabin...and the flight attendants who fail to enforce the rule.

         Couldn't agree more. Yes, airlines charge you to check a bag. Well, ever heard of going with the flow? Airline raise their fares and people pay them. Airlines charge you 4-figure prices to sit in premium cabins, and people pay them. So why won't people pay to check bags? Because they're ignorant. Or better yet, why not just check your over-sized rollaboard for FREE at the gate?? Pax carrying fragile or valuable items in their carry-ons should have complete priority for overhead bin usage.

Quoting PITingres (Reply 3):
How about the business traveler who, after getting his bag into the overhead, stands in the aisle and ever so slowly and deliberately takes off his jacket, carefully folds it, and then sticks it into the bin. (Where it has no room to lie flat and so ends up getting wrinkled anyway.) Move out of the aisle, jerk, we're not impressed...

   Another thing that really bothers me are those arrogant business travelers. Dude, just because you think you're so much cooler than us because you fly once a week and have XXX thousand miles and elite-top notch-golden-priority-whatnot status, does not give you the right to fill the overhead bins with all of your crap because you're too arrogant to check bags. Or do anything else that's not allowed.


User currently offlinegenybustrvlr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

Quoting AI (Reply 1):

My pet hate is the pax who reclines his seat all the way back without any consideration, especially on short haul flights.

Am I the only person who uses the air vent as a defensive measure? Turn that thing on full blast and aim it right at their head. It's amusing to watch and the seat will be up in less than 10 minutes.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 7):

People who insist on telling others to have them closed, denying them a chance of looking out the window at some amazing scenery outside. They should instead bring eye masks so the light from the window won't bother them.

They key to window shades is the flight. If it's a short haul or daytime flight, go nuts - look out the window. However, if it's a red-eye or long haul overnight flight, put the shade down. Endless ocean and/or farmland is not that interesting and you're disturbing others - eye mask or not. Thankfully, Boeing has addressed the problem.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 10):
IMO, all families with children should pre-board if the airline allows for it. Get them on the plane, and in their seats before the rest, as kids during boarding are often the ones that slow everything down. When they pre-board with little stress, everything goes better.

No way. They are the biggest culprits for blocking the aisle and being in and out of the overhead 100 times while boarding is ongoing. Having children is a choice - parents, deal with the inconveniences of traveling with them. You don't deserve any privilege over anyone else.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
9) or....you could be the young lady from Winnipeg, who many years ago on a flight from MSP to AMS proceeded to tell me her entire life story....just what I needed for 8 hours

Say "I'm sorry, I'm not interested" and put in your earbuds. That's your fault for sitting through her tales for 8 hours.

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 15):
along with Mom and Pop (with or without kids) who bring homemade food along to share the sights and smells of 3 or 4 hour old food...........trust me room temperature tuna salad sandwiches are wretched smelling and will turn the toughest gut.

One can only hope their tuna has turned and give them the runs - preferably after the flight.


User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

[quote=genybustrvlr,reply=20]Say "I'm sorry, I'm not interested" and put in your earbuds. That's your fault for sitting through her tales for 8 hours.

[/quotei
If only it had been that simple. This was way before ipods etc. I didn't even take a Walkman, but even saying i was not wanting to talk was not going to deter her!


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4645 times:
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My additions to the list:
-The idiot who claims he hasn't heard the boarding order and then argues with the gate agent to try and get on ahead of time for no reason at all, holding up the line for the rest of us;
-The passenger who pushes and shoves his way out the plane like his butt is on fire and then ends up waiting for the same rental/hotel shuttle as everyone else curbside.
-Passengers who are too cheap to check-in their luggage and too weak to lift it into the overhead;
-Passengers who pretend they're too cool to acknowledge flight attendants exist and act as if they have no idea what's happening when one interrupts their conversation after having asked half the cabin for their drink order already.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 19):
Dude, just because you think you're so much cooler than us because you fly once a week and have XXX thousand miles and elite-top notch-golden-priority-whatnot status, does not give you the right to fill the overhead bins with all of your crap

Dude, if I am cooler than you, it isn't because of the XXXX thousand miles and the elite-top notch-golden-priority-whatnot status (although I'm sure it helps), it's because I know better than to bring so much to fill up the overhead bins. Who you're thinking of is the wannabe who hasn't learned to pack and needs all the room in the plane...

Quoting BD338 (Reply 11):
you could be the young lady from Winnipeg, who many years ago on a flight from MSP to AMS proceeded to tell me her entire life story

That is why my earbuds go on as soon as I sit.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3017 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 20):
Quoting AI (Reply 1):
My pet hate is the pax who reclines his seat all the way back without any consideration, especially on short haul flights.
Am I the only person who uses the air vent as a defensive measure? Turn that thing on full blast and aim it right at their head. It's amusing to watch and the seat will be up in less than 10 minutes.

Back in the day, shoehorned on a TWA 727, some idiot reclined back thru my knees into my lap; I was literally looking down at him. I asked that he please put his seat forward at least until I'd finished my drink and could put my tray up. He laughed and said "no way". So I started yanking nose hairs. Every time I do so I sneeze, and I may have made a little extra spray after a few. He turned around and gave me a pissed off look. I smiled and said, "I can do this all the way to St. Louis". He unreclined. I said thank you.
Not my best moment.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6202 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4622 times:
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Quoting BD338 (Reply 21):
If only it had been that simple. This was way before ipods etc. I didn't even take a Walkman, but even saying i was not wanting to talk was not going to deter her!

I have to fly once or twice a month at least due to work. Medium to long haul, usually. Sometimes I get that type of passenger. It comes down to this: Courteously and amicably, you tell them that you are not interested. Period. It´s called honesty. If you tell them you want to work and you don´t, or you want to sleep and you don´t, they´ll be back at it.

They may get angry, they may make a face, they may think you are a crank. That´s their problem. No way am I going to wear my Ipod or earplugs (which I hate) for hours on end becaues of what the person next to me may think.

My contributions:

1) People who want you to not recline your seat:

I will recline mine. Period. I will do it courteously and I will do it slowly, and I will unrecline during meals, but that´s about it. You don´t want me to recline? Fly on an ailine that has non-reclining seats. I paid for a ticket on a seat that reclines. Oh, and try some stunt like picking your nose to sneeze on my head or blasting the AC on my face and I WILL TALK to the FA. Believe me, they will act on behalf of the passenger who´s being harassed by teenage antics.

2) People who want you to put your windowshade down:

I love my window seat. I reserved it over the phone, over the Internet or through my travel agent. I paid for it. The window seat includes the window. I hate the middle or the middle row on widebodies because I get dizzy during turbulence. On day flights, I will put it down approximately at half. Night flights, fine, since there is nothing to see, I´ll put it down. But don´t expect me to leave them down when YOU want me too. I remember being asked by an SAS FA to put my window shade down. I told her I wanted to see the sun come up. There´s nothing more beautiful than a sunrise at 41,000 ft. She became very insistent and aggressive. I called the Purser, FA disappeared, window shade up. BRING YOUR EYEMASKS.

3) Families, groups or couples who think it is THEIR RIGHT to sit together.

As in the case above, I am sitting in that seat for a reason. I reserved it too. Why can´t you do the same at the time of reservation/purchase or whenever if you want to sit together? Sure, I´ll trade my seat for the Jumpseat (which is never going to happen) or a seat in the next upper fare.



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25 Post contains images OA260 : +1 Oh it makes me mad. Stow your things and sit down as quickly as possible that applies to all classes. Get yourself organised before you board. Tot
26 aerdingus : Ok, I think this could be me...whats the etiquette here? Turn around & let the person behind you know? (I'm serious btw) Yeah, come on!! I'll hal
27 lows : Then sit on the aisle!
28 flymia : My thinking is if I am on a 2 hour afternoon flight and there is some 6'5 guy sitting behind me I probably wont recline, especially if I am not going
29 Post contains images RamblinMan : Just do it slowly enough that you won't spill any drinks or anything and you're in the clear. If they have a problem with you using a feature of your
30 Yflyer : [quote=flymia,reply=28]But it is your fault for chosing a window seat.[quote] You're assuming it's actuallty a choice. I can't speak for aerdingus, bu
31 joffie : Why do you want the window shade open on a long flight anyway? I hate having it open so close it to avoid the sun coming in. Dont know whats so exciti
32 CXB77L : PTV screens have brightness and contrast controls. Despite leaving my window shade open, I can see my PTV screen just fine with a slight tweak of the
33 fbgdavidson : That was my mother-in-law a few years ago. We were flying together on some early AM regional jet flight with my wife and I one row in front of them.
34 jetblueguy22 : In regard to the phone calls right on landing, I always pick up the phone to call the Valet service so my car is always nice and toasty when I get the
35 Post contains images aerdingus : I like sitting beside the window Actually now that you phrase it in that timeline...I would only get up once on a flight less than 2 hrs...so maybe I
36 lhr380 : So you wont take into consideration at all the person behind you, charming. It works both ways as well, a FA asked the guy in-front of me to put his
37 RamblinMan : NOBODY has any room! It's economy class! I have seriously had it with the whole "people shouldn't recline because I'm tall" attitude. I need to recli
38 AR385 : Why do you say that? I clearly wrote: You have options too. Usually the seats behind the first overwing emergency exit row, as well as the second ove
39 Post contains images lows : Try GoogleEarth then.
40 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Urgh. I had this last month CBR-SYD, flying time 22 minutes. That was more than bad enough so I really feel for you having to endure 8 hours of it! I
41 Post contains images aerdingus : Chaps, please read: Calm down.
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