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Are The A380 And 777 The New 747 And L-10/D-10?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3569 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

In today's time, would you say that A380, is in the spot that the 747 was in, and the 777 is in the spot, that the L1011 and DC-10 was in back in the 70s, 80s and early 90s?

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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4311 times:
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Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
In today's time, would you say that A380, is in the spot that the 747 was in, and the 777 is in the spot, that the L1011 and DC-10 was in back in the 70s, 80s and early 90s?

Not quite.
For the 1970s, the tri-jets provided the lowest cost per trip for long haul. Today, that isn't the 77W, it is the A330 and soon the 787. Thus the comparison is much more complicated today.


Back then it was 747 first EIS and then the smaller tri-jets.
747 EIS in 1970.
DC-10 EIS in 1971
L-1011 EIS in 1972

I believe the later EIS of the VLAs has definately eaten into their sales. While there is a 'halo effect' on the A380, it is not the same as the 'Queen of the skies.'   

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User currently offlinejoelyboy911 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2009, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
n today's time, would you say that A380, is in the spot that the 747 was in, and the 777 is in the spot, that the L1011 and DC-10 was in back in the 70s, 80s and early 90s?

In terms of size, perhaps yes, but in terms of sales, there is a much bigger range of offerings. The 747 is still going, alongside A330, A340, 787, (767 still being built too), A380 and A350 on the way. The A340 is perhaps in the position of the L-1011, as a smaller slice of the market share, with the 777 and A330 sharing the rest of that size segment. The A380 is on the way to replacing or superseding the 747 in many fleets, which is new because the 747 has never had a larger competitor before.

The market hasn't developed in a way that suits your question, IMO. There are now only two manufacturers, and they are sharing the sales roughly equally across most segments.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6468 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Quoting joelyboy911 (Reply 2):
In terms of size, perhaps yes,

Actually, the closest modern aircraft to the L-1011/DC-10 size-wise are the Boeing 767-400ER, Boeing 787-8, and Airbus A330-200.



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4086 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 1):
For the 1970s, the tri-jets provided the lowest cost per trip for long haul. Today, that isn't the 77W, it is the A330 and soon the 787.

A330? Granted, the A330 is smaller, lighter and cheaper to operate than the 777 on routes that are within the A330's range capabilities, and that for medium range missions, the A330 reigns supreme. But the 77E, 77W and 77L out-ranges the A330. If you're talking about long haul, I'd argue that the 77W is the cheapest aircraft to operate at present.



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