Birdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51 Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4894 times:
I'll be in Moscow in half a year (May 2012) and I have the time to do 1 or 2 one-day trips to catch some Russian or Soviet airliners. I know there was a topic recently here in this forum about the TU-154, but I'd like to open it up a bit further. I'm interested in any Russian equipment as I have only flown on the YAK42, plus I'm scheduled to fly on the IL-96 and AN-24, anything else will be of high interest for me, especially the YAK-40.
I know it's still kind of far in the future (half a year), and I'll research again when the date comes closer, but right now, what are my options? Is there any chance to fly out and back on different aircraft?
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MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4343 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4842 times:
Severstal from St Petersburg seems the easiest way to get a Yak-40, there were hardly any flights on them from the Moscow region. Will take an extra day though as these flights are early in the morning and in the evening.
We have to see if the Russians actually ground all Tu-134s (and An-24s) by 1 January 2012 but if not, check UTAir, they might still fly from VKO to Syktyvkar, Nizny Novgorod and so by may, although I fear the worst seeing how many CRJs, 737s they picked up lately. I don't remember if you have the Tu-134 already in your logbook, if I were you I wouldn't want to miss that one. Best to look again around march what would be possible and scheduled by then.
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airevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4709 times:
You should be able to easily catch the Antonov 148 on a flight to St Petersburg, it does the route all the time. Also, Aeroflot´s Sukhoi Superjet is flying 3 times a day to Niszhny Novgorod (GOJ) at the moment. Just booked it. So that much about the modern Russian planes... If you want to do the Yak-42 again, Saravia to Saratov seems like a rather safe bet.
United727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4601 times:
While you're out there, might you consider snapping a few shots of the remaining TU-144's please? Also, read a post that one of the TU-144's (I believe 00015?) is getting regular attention from a private group. Regards UA727
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TupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2185 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4558 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 1): they might still fly from VKO to Syktyvkar, Nizny Novgorod
On my trip last month we were scheduled to fly VKO-SCW but it changed to a 737. Nizhny Novgorod is served with an ATR from Moscow (Or it was when I was checking in for my 134 flight back to LED)
A bit dodgy, but the "safest" bet to get on a 154 or 134 from Moscow would be South East (aka Dagestan) down to Makhachkala. It's not easy (apparently seperate visa required, advice against travel there) but would be worth it from an enthusiasts point of view.
Servestal only use CRJ's on the Moscow route, and Yak 40's to LED.
AK Bars Aero use Yak 40's still, the only that I'm aware of was LED-Penza though. I saw a couple in LED. They have an increasing number of CRJ's but in theory they'll keep their Yak 40's longer as they've repainted at least one into the new livery.
UT were using 134's on the LED-SCW and LED-GOJ routes last month. Who knows how long they'll be around for though.
I flew Alrosa with a Tu154 DME-KRR-DME, but as far as I'm aware that was a one off. Apart from they they fly to Mirny, but that's a long old haul overnight.
I just went on a trip last month including Tu134, 154 and a Yak 40. Sadly things change on a seemingly daily basis over in Russia so nothing is easy anymore. All the information I provided was true when I went, but it's probably totally obsolete now.
LXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4540 times:
Since I'm also currently planning some Russian flights for myself, I will try to provide a summary here:
DME-RTW-DME or VKO-RTW-VKO on Saravia, a safe bet, as already mentioned by airevents.
DME-NAL-DME on Saravia, a safe bet, but daytrip only possible in combination with Rusline CRJ on certain days
DME-IJK-DME on Izhavia, also a safe bet, worst could be a change to Tu-134, but impossible to book from outside Russia, also combinable LED-IJK-DME on Mon
DME-UCT-DME or DME-USK-DME on UTAir (possibly operated by Gazpromavia) until 31Dec (showing as Tu-134 from 01Jan)
DME-ULV-DME on Gazpromavia, probably a safe bet, but Gazpromavia also has 73G in the fleet, also possible in combination with Polet SF3/S20 (airport change required from ULY to ULV) and/or UTAir AT7
VKO-GRV-VKO on Grozny Avia, a safe bet equipment-wise, but nightstop required, GRV is not the place to spend a night
VKO-LED-VKO on Gazpromavia, every Fri/Sun evening, turnaround not possible due to short ground time, but easily combinable with any other MOW-LED-MOW flight
VKO-OVS-VKO on Gazpromavia three times weekly, but only 1:10 turnaround in OVS, no other flights to combine with
DME-PEZ-DME on AkBars Aero, probably safe, but AkBars also has CRJ's in the fleet
DME-JOK-DME or DME-TBW-DME on AkBars Aero, but only with nightstop in JOK or TBW
LED-CEE-LED on Severstal - too late! - schedules already showing CRJ from 20Dec! Before that daytrip possible Tue/Thu on the Yak-40, but CRJ may be phased in earlier?
DME-UCT-DME or DME-USK-DME on UTAir from 01Jan
DME-SCW-DME or LED-SCW-LED on UTair only as a nightstop in SCW, other frequencies on 737 (as mentioned)
VKO-IGT-VKO on UTAir, only 1 hour turnaround, no other flights (IGT = Magas, Ingushetia = a new IATA code)
LED-GOJ-LED on UTAir until 24Dec (after that CRJ), nightstop required
VKO-MCX-VKO on Dagestan/South East, but turnaround in MCX only 2 hrs, probably same a/c but check-in maybe
closed already in case of delay
DME-KRR-DME on Alrosa on Wed until end of March, but on a couple of dates it won't operate
VKO-NYM-VKO on Gazpromavia, not daily, early dep from VKO (around 0300lt), route operated with mix of TU5/73G
DME-SKX-DME on Avialinii Mordowii, nightstop in SKX required
This is by no means a complete list. I'll add to it when I find more. There are probably also some more flight to destnations farther away, such as Siberia (Alrosa Tu-154, for example). But those are quite expensive.
Edit: two more Yak-42 options added.
@Birdwatching: I realize you asked for May specifically, but maybe the information is also of use for others, planning a similar trip early. May may just be too late.
TupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2185 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4522 times:
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 5): LED-CEE-LED on Severstal - too late! - schedules already showing CRJ from 20Dec! Before that daytrip possible Tue/Thu on the Yak-40, but CRJ may be phased in earlier?
Wow, just as well I went when I did!
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 5): DME-KRR-DME on Alrosa on Wed until end of March, but on a couple of dates it won't operate
This is what I did, on a Wednesday too. I'd say this is by far the easiest day trip, as the turnaround is 2 hours 40 if I remember correctly. Flight times are perfect for a day trip and prices are perfectly reasonable. Booking is slightly awkward but you can do it through agent.ru. I even managed to get a seat in the flight deck for landing into DME!