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ORD To GRU: Fly UA Nonstop Or AC Via YYZ?  
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 15
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

I have to travel to Sao Paulo for business in 10 days. I have options (with around a $100 fare difference) to fly on the nonstop UA flight from ORD to GRU or fly Air Canada via YYZ.

I have flown the AC 767 product from YYZ to SCL a few years ago and loved it. I have not flown the 77W before (ever, on any airline) which is used from YYZ to GRU at this time of year. I know that UA is using the new-configured 777 on its nonstop flight from ORD to GRU, and I will have access to Y+ seating because I am Star silver.

So, anyone want to provide me a high-level pros and cons list?


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User currently offlineyowza From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined Jul 2005, 4889 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

100% fly with AC via YYZ.

AC has better IFE which makes the flight seem to go by faster. That alone would do it for me. Beyond that you earn more miles and could hit Gold next year.  

Also if listening in on Channel 9 is a factor in your decision I should tell you that many UA flights over South America switch this off because of "interesting" ATC exchanges.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25369 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

I'd go with convenience and opt for the UA nonstop.

Also making extra connections during winter months is a no-no in my travel book.



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

I heard the AC flights to GRU has been heavily delayed recently, don´t knot why and don´t know if this problem still persist...

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately, it appears that both flights arrive too late in the morning for me to make this work, so instead, I have put a reservation on "hold" routing ORD-DTW-GRU on the outbound and GRU-ATL-ORD on the return, both operated on Delta.

I know that the GRU-ATL segment will have PTVs, but the DTW-GRU flight will likely not, as it is on the 767-300. Regardless, anyone taken either of these flights (DTW-GRU/GRU-ATL) in Y and have comments on the service?



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4046 times:

I have taken a similar one, ATL-LIM-ATL and was very satisfied, nice crew, 764 with PTV´s, decent food...

I personally think DL is always a good choice to South America. I have travelled many times to South America from the US taking DL, CO, AA and UA and by far, DL is the best on the field. They might not be the best carrier TATL or intra-USA, but US to South America: they take the prize, at least for me.

Enjoy your flight and your stay in Brazil!!!

Adam

[Edited 2012-01-04 17:25:19]


Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineSplitterz From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

UA's updated interiors are pretty stellar. Especially in C and F cabins.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2896 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4005 times:
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If you wish to achieve Global Sevices for 2013 you have to fly UA/CO metal, and Y+ is always great for an 8 to 9 hour flight. If you can get into C on a UA 777 or 767, the experience is great. Better than BF on a CO 767 by far.

I don't know if Delta has an enhanced Y product.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 5):
I personally think DL is always a good choice to South America. I have travelled many times to South America from the US taking DL, CO, AA and UA and by far, DL is the best on the field.

Yes, I flew DL SJU-JFK-DTW-ORD on Monday and I loved the DL Y product on the SJU-JFK segment. Too bad I will not have that on the DTW-GRU flight but I will just try and sleep as best as I can.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):

If you wish to achieve Global Sevices for 2013 you have to fly UA/CO metal, and Y+ is always great for an 8 to 9 hour flight. If you can get into C on a UA 777 or 767, the experience is great. Better than BF on a CO 767 by far.

Yes, it's unfortunate that this trip was scheduled very last minute so I did not have great options timing and price-wise to choose from, but in the future I do plan on consolidating to UA. Especially on their services from ORD or IAD.

Does CO have good IFE on their 767-200s?



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User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

If you are in a newer 777, then go for UA, but if you were to be put on a 744, count your blessings, no IFE there. I'd probably go AC. I've heard pretty good things recently, and I transferred through YYZ before, and it was very enjoyable.


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