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Best/Worst Airline Seats.  
User currently offlineboeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

Best/Worst Airline seats.

Would have to say those NZ sky couches are mighty comfortable.   


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User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

Most F and J class seats are nice.

Any Y class in a set of 3,4 or 5 are horrible. Any Y class set in a set of 2 is acceptable (generally)


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5641 times:
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Based on the last month of travels for me in no particular order - UA PS 757 first class seats are terrible. The CO F/J product is great for me. Used it to Mumbai last week. I was surprised at the DL product in F class on the Md88/90. Surprised at the recline. I guess they did this after getting them from NW? I'm not really looking forward to using the UA 767 product next month to Europe, but we'll see. It can't be worse than the AA J seat. I have no opinion of non-US flag carrier seats because the majority are superior to anything offered.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9817 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5585 times:

Quoting fiscal (Reply 1):

Any Y class in a set of 3,4 or 5 are horrible. Any Y class set in a set of 2 is acceptable (generally)

There are worse seats than just being 3 in a set. Seats that don't recline and don't have a seatpocket like Ryanair certainly are worse. Spirit with no recline and less than 30'' pitch is also worse.



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5575 times:
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Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):

There are worse seats than just being 3 in a set.

B6 extra leg room seats are ridiculous for US flag carrier standards. Worth every penny imho.   


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Worst seats I've been in are the Y seats on FL's 717s - there apparently is padding, but it might as well not be there (the seats on their 73Gs, strangely, are decent, though not great)

Best seats (and I'm limiting this to Y seats) would be the ones that UA used to have on their 757s and 320s. Not high tech, but very nice to sit in. They've probably been replaced now, though - I haven't sat in a comfortable Y seat in a while.

-Mir



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User currently offlineHawaiian763 From Canada, joined May 2009, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

Of course F and J class seats are really comfortable, but for me it has to be the Y+ seats on UA. Having that extra legroom for long haul flights is quite good.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5168 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
Best seats (and I'm limiting this to Y seats) would be the ones that UA used to have on their 757s and 320s. Not high tech, but very nice to sit in.

The 320/319s and 752s still have the Recaro seats with the winged headrests....new seat covers but still the same seat.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25999 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
There are worse seats than just being 3 in a set. Seats that don't recline and don't have a seatpocket like Ryanair certainly are worse.
Quoting fiscal (Reply 1):
Any Y class in a set of 3,4 or 5 are horrible. Any Y class set in a set of 2 is acceptable (generally)

I disagree. I always avoid Y seats in pairs as when flights aren't full there's a greater chance of having an empty seat next to you if you choose a seat in a set of 3/4/5 seats. On widebodies I always select an aisle seat in the center section and very frequently have an empty seat next to me, while virtually all the pairs of seats next to the windows are full (e.g. on 767s for with 2-3-2 or A330/340s with 2-4-2).

Same goes for narrowbodies with 2-3 seating. I frequentlly fly on LX Avro RJ100s and KLM Fokker 70s/100s, and on those I always select an aisle seat on the 3-seat side as the middle seat in that section is always the last to be assigned when flights aren't full.

[Edited 2012-01-18 17:53:45]

User currently offlinejoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

I think Oman has one of the best J class seat and Layout on the Airbus.

The worst would had to be the old Air Asia X ones, that dont recline, but slope forward. They were taken out for obvious reasons.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 7):
The 320/319s and 752s still have the Recaro seats with the winged headrests....new seat covers but still the same seat.

The ones I'm thinking of didn't have winged headrests. There was a sort of shaped headrest, but no physical wings to move.

-Mir



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User currently offlinejetlag73 From France, joined Sep 2011, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

What is weird to me is the difference you can get for a J seat within the same airline, at the same price.
Example, SQ flies on long haul 77E with spacebeds 6 a-side and even sometimes recliners 7 a-side, and also 77W/388 with 4 a-side flat bed.
Even worst is EK, difference between J seats on A330/340 and 777s (recliners, 7 a-aside) and 388 full flat bed.

So you pay quite a lot, and seat can be a lottery.

Basically, as others said, most J/F seat are very comfortable indeed.
Y seat = the newer they get, the harder and thiner they get.
I remember in the 90's, they were thick and padded. Now it's more like wood.


User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

For me it is the herringbone true lay-flat seats on NZ and VS. I get a solid night's sleep, and I always have access to the aisle if I need to use the lav in the middle of the night (and I always do.)

I just hate the business class seats on the NZ 767's Most people complain about seats being too small, but in my case I am too small for the seat. My legs aren't long enough to sit back without my knee pivot point being on the seat cushion. That happens on a lot of older business class seats for me. IIRC LH is no better. Flying NZ AKL-PER I ended up standing in the galley talking to the crew for an hour or two at a time. Heaven forbid, I might have to fly in economy next time!

Quoting jetlag73 (Reply 11):
Basically, as others said, most J/F seat are very comfortable indeed.
Y seat = the newer they get, the harder and thiner they get.
I remember in the 90's, they were thick and padded. Now it's more like wood.

Considering the obesity epidemic, perhaps they depend on the passenger providing the padding?


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4746 times:
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Everyone likes foreign carrier seats as much as I do but what do you think about US flag carrier seats?   

User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4739 times:

My favorite seat (Y) that I've put my tush in was a US 757 (old American West bird) from PHX-OGG. Lots of cushion, none of this slimline crap that hurts you rear after a half hour.


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User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
Spirit with no recline and less than 30'' pitch is also worse.

Not that I have travelled with them, but it did remind me of Tiger with tiny pitch seats, and Jetstar who removed recline. Not very nice...

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
I disagree. I always avoid Y seats in pairs as when flights aren't full there's a greater chance of having an empty seat next to you

I should have said when I travel with my wife, otherwise I do as you do.


User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

The worst seat in commercial aviation is any of the seats between the tailcone and aft galley bulkhead of the MD-80 series aircraft.

Dark, noisy, claustrophobic and disorienting, with a window-seat view of the engine nacelle, four-inches away.


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User currently offlineneothearmal From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 19 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 13):
Everyone likes foreign carrier seats as much as I do but what do you think about US flag carrier seats?

The biggest shock of my last US vacation was how comfortable DL's A320 was, nice enough leather comfortable padding and decent legroom for DTW-LAS.

The worst I can remember is also Delta, a 763 CDG-JFK back in 2004.


User currently offlineZaphodB From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

For me the best longhaul were AA's M11 followed by DL's L10/L15s and MHs 744s. Honorable mention to AA's 762/3 before they reduced the seat pitch. Worst by far: VS 742 / 744 and DL 763. AAs 306s weren't great and nor are BA's 744 in terms of pitch although the seats are nicely padded and shaped.

Shorthaul - best: Southwest, BA, SR, Monarch (!) extra legroom seats. Worst: Eireflot, of course. IB deserves a mention, as do QFs 738s. Also have vague recollections of a Jetstream 41 (TWA??) being pretty tortuous.


User currently offlinee38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4443 times:

I agree with aviateur (reply 16), the last two or three rows on MD-80 series aircraft can be miserable whereby you may be assigned a window seat but the view out the window is completely obstructed by the engine. This is also true for the last two rows on Delta's DC9-50 aircraft (rows 25 and 26) as I recall. Also, on some CRJ-900 aircraft, there is no window on the last row on the right side. I don't like being in the center section of widebody aircraft.

I don't have to have a window seat every time, but I'm somewhat uncomfortable not having any perception of where the aircraft is on the ground or when it is coming in to land (i.e., in the aft section of the MD-80 series, like aviateur mentioned).

Also, I always enjoy sitting by the window. You would think that a window seat in the exit row (with additional leg room) would be ideal, but on many aircraft (particularly Delta's DC9s, MD-88s, and Airbus A319/320s) the window seats at the exit rows have a different seat cushion--much thinner--called a "low profile seat cushion" and they tend to be very uncomfortable, especially on longer flights. Also, window seats at exit rows can sometime be very cold if the exit doesn't seal up properly and it isn't always easy to find a blanket.

I don't remember seeing these "low profile" seats on other airlines, but the placard on the window of some of these aircraft states, "FAA required."

e38


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

Quoting boeingfever777 (Thread starter):
Would have to say those NZ sky couches are mighty comfortable.

depending on individual size of passenger. I have seen medium sized couples pay more to upgrade to premium economy because they had such an unpleasant night's sleep on the sky couch. I found it interesting.


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4417 times:
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Best C seat: SQ on the A345
Worst C seat: UA (seat before current refurbishing)

Best Y seat: Toss up between the LH narrowbody fleet slim-line (more comfortable) and AC (almost as good, and has AVOD)
Worst Y seat: OO on the Embraer 120



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