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..And The Award For The Worst Terminal Goes To...  
User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 2933 posts, RR: 25
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10599 times:

New York JFK Airport Terminal 3      

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Travel guide expert Frommer's has just announced its list of the best - and worst - airports in the world - and it makes some surprising reading.

New York's JFK Airport Terminal 3 takes the top spot for the world's worst. "There's a sense that the cleaning crew gave up in despair a while ago," writes Frommer's.

The review packs no punches: "Endless immigration lines in a dank basement, an utter lack of food and shopping options, three crowded and confusing entry points, and hallways that could have been designed by MC Escher for vomiting international travellers out onto an underground sidewalk with no cabs available.

The worst ten and the best ten are listed in the link:

http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/01/22/w...%7Cdl10%7Csec3_lnk4%26pLid%3D93099

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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10439 times:
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It's strange that Munich didn't make it to the top 10 best terminals. I find it much better and more convenient than Kéflavik or Madrid...
Not to mention that the terminal is way nicer and more moder-looking than these two.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10387 times:

It funny because I was saying T3 before I even opened the thread. Yes, T3 is a dump. A pigeon infested structure and the armpits of the Delta system (MEM not too far behind). Its a shame that DL has made their passengers endure the place for so long. A fix to T3 could have happened years ago but at the time we had short sighted managers, with Leo Mullin leading the whole lot. Instead of spending $500M on BOS, the money could have been used, well, at JFK. Look at what's left of Delta in Boston vs Kennedy...


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User currently onlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10248 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 2):
It funny because I was saying T3 before I even opened the thread.

Hahaha, same here! I don't usually fly DL, but a couple of years ago I went to pick up my daughter, who was arriving from BCN at JFK's T3. I took the Airtrain, exit at the T2/3 stop and.... I just couldn't believe how inconvenient, outdated, ugly, and yes, dumpy the whole T3 set up was. What an impression when one arrives to NYC.



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 786 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10198 times:

Seems that someone hasn't seen the renovations at MNL.   

User currently offlineNUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10187 times:

I have been to all 10 of the worst airports and I would strongly argue that none of them are as bad as Lagos. Lagos only receives "honorable" mention in the photo link.

A bit surprised KL and HK are both absent from the top 10.



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

Yep JFK T3 deserves a top spot. Dumpydumpydumpy.

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9822 times:

I don't understand how Chicago Midway made the worst 10 list. The old Midway yes, but that's been closed for many years now.

User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9704 times:

After Kinshasa, lack of shopping and poor food don't seem so bad.


Andy Goetsch
User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1184 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9612 times:

No mention of terminal 6 LAX?

User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4235 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9491 times:

I am not going to argue that the T3 at JFK is the pits but I would like to ask what the parameters of Frommer's to only rate CDG as the 5th worst I would rank it as 1B. The best is a terminal that is only open for 6 weeks a year and only for people attending the Haj?


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User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9109 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 9):
No mention of terminal 6 LAX?

I was at that terminal last week. It did seem a little third world.



Andy Goetsch
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8950 times:

The article mentions LGA's Terminal 5 as being #7 on the Worst Airport list. Are they aware that LGA only has four terminals, and that they go by numbers, not letters?

-Mir



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User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1600 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8756 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 9):
No mention of terminal 6 LAX?

The photo essay at the end of the article identifies LAX in its entirety as one of the world's worst. According to the SF Chronical, LAX is "8 terminals connected by a traffic jam." That is a hilarious, and unfortunately apt, description!

Still, some of the terminals aren't so bad. Delta's is okay and Alaska Air's terminal is being renovated as is the TBIT. LAX just needs to do all the terminals and be done with it.


User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2700 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8532 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
The article mentions LGA's Terminal 5 as being #7 on the Worst Airport list. Are they aware that LGA only has four terminals, and that they go by numbers, not letters?

I think you meant they go by letters at LGA.


User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 800 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8201 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 10):
I would like to ask what the parameters of Frommer's to only rate CDG as the 5th worst

The ranked CDG terminal is terminal 3 : mostly LCC and charters!
despite what everyone is saying, CDG is not that bad and I think that most of the people complaining about this airport did not go through it since a long time!



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8175 times:

I think it's funny that the picture at the top of the article on AOL is actually of JFK T8, despite the fact that that terminal didn't make either best (as JFK T5 did) or worst (JFK T3) list.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8126 times:

I don't know how I should judge this company (Frommer's?). I wouldn't assess a terminal that is only used a few weeks of the year. That already is a mistake in the survey in my opinion. Keep those temporarily used airport terminals out of a survey that compares airports that are in use throughout the year.

A388


User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8125 times:
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Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 7):
I don't understand how Chicago Midway made the worst 10 list. The old Midway yes, but that's been closed for many years now.

Agreed - MDW is one of the nicer airports I've been to. The only problem I can see is that security lines can be horrendous at times, but this is hardly a unique problem and shouldn't be reason enough to make the worst 10 airports.


User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7463 times:

Why does the media gallery mention DEL/IGIA? I thought the new terminal is supposed to be spectacular! Granted, I have not visited it, but I haven't heard many complaints either.

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 15):
CDG is not that bad and I think that most of the people complaining about this airport did not go through it since a long time!

CDG is pretty bad, dude. Logistically, connecting through it is a nightmare when compared to AMS. The use of remote stands and busses? It's so unprofessional and haphazard.

In addition, the quarantined/siphoned off areas are so claustrophobic. There's virtually 0 space for breathing room. The interiors are depressing and the dining options are insanely overpriced. That airport is just awful.



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7463 times:

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 11):
I was at that terminal last week. It did seem a little third world.

It's under construction. Deal with it.

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 13):
The photo essay at the end of the article identifies LAX in its entirety as one of the world's worst.

That's so biased. It's hardly the worst, and only getting better. The bad terminals, TBIT, 3 and 6, are all under reno, rebuild, build-out. 2 and 7 are hardly the worst in the country, let alone the world, and 1, 4 and 5 are all middle of the pack or better.

EWR Terminal B is hardly the bottom 10, either. It's just long in the tooth.



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User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 13):
The photo essay at the end of the article identifies LAX in its entirety as one of the world's worst. According to the SF Chronical, LAX is "8 terminals connected by a traffic jam." That is a hilarious, and unfortunately apt, description!

Of course a San Franciscan is going to trash anything in LA.

Apparently, Frommer's did not visit MNL.


User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7132 times:

I find regional jet terminals to be the worst, since they're always the most active.

Terminal A2 at EWR, Continental's RJ terminal, is the worst, especially on a rainy night with delays. Thousands of people crammed into a tight, open, deafeningly loud rotunda with no walls and not enough seats.

Second place goes to Terminal F at PHL. More conventional layout, but still too loud, too crowded, and not enough seats.

Terminal 3 at JFK is like paradise by comparison.


Disclaimer: I haven't been through A2 at EWR for about two years, so forgive me if they've changed things post-merger.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 11):

Yes, its quite the "setup". I dread when I'm on DL and my outbound is from 6. And it almost always happen if I'm on that afternoon departure to ATL...



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User currently offlinekaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2379 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 9):
No mention of terminal 6 LAX?
Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 11):
I was at that terminal last week. It did seem a little third world.

There is honestly nothing wrong with LAX or Terminal 6. Yes, terminal 6 does not have a modern look, and the renovation is making some mess, but there is nothing wrong with it. It is convenient, and it does the job very well.


25 ikramerica : Well they did close the candy store. That drops it down a notch.
26 av8r915 : I've heard EWR's CoEx Terminal A compared to "The Fall of Saigon" during weather delays, cancellations, etc...lol.
27 Gingersnap : I've only ever used Terminal 1 at CDG, and I hated it every time.
28 StuckInCA : Don't be so protective. LAX is a dump.
29 FlyASAGuy2005 : +1 Filler filler
30 Icarus75 : When was the last time you've been to CDG? Regarding remote stands and busses, you have the same at AMS & FRA!
31 Post contains links United787 : I think it is worth going to the original Frommer's article to see more detailed description of "analysis". http://www.frommers.com/slideshow/?p=1&
32 planejamie : I have to say, I'd vote KEF up there as it's a fantastic little airport. Plenty of things airside and you arrive airside too (not sure if there's a se
33 SRQKEF : When was you at KEF? It got thru lot of changes 2009-2010 and is much more modern and nicer looking now. Connections there are a breeze too. Just my
34 musapapaya : I agree HKG should be on the list as some of the best, however, one thing that really bothers me each time I pass through, is the numerous gate agent,
35 Post contains images Birdwatching : I connect through CDG frequently and I think everyone agrees that the distances between some places can be incredibly long, and yes CDG has a problem
36 Post contains images jetblue777 : Not a surprise here! It's funny how four of the top 10 worst airport terminals are my "home airports" (LGA,JFK,MNL,EWR) but glad to see JFK's T5 on th
37 fghtngsiouxatc : I couldn't believe MDW was in the worst list, either. It's definitely not one of the best, but it's simple and very easy to navigate. It can be a pai
38 dc9northwest : You're kidding right? FRA yes, but I have almost never seen a 737 or above embarking at a remote stand in AMS. Regional Jets always do at AMS, I know
39 flymia : Terminal 4 at FLL is a joke. May be the worst terminal I have ever been in.
40 Icarus75 : Like in FRA, ORD! I fly in/out CDG several times a month and I regularly have connections and it is far from being the worst airport!
41 TupolevTu154 : Clearly they've never been to either of LED's terminals!
42 Akiestar : My memories of NAIA Terminal 1 notwithstanding, I have to disagree that the airport staff are always rude, and immigration and security agents are "j
43 CairnterriAIR : Absolutely nobody in Southern New England is crying over the closure of BDL's Terminal B....also known as the Murphy Terminal. I'm sure it would have
44 Viscount724 : The big difference at AMS is that the only flights that require buses to/from the aircraft are regional jets (up to E-190 size), mainly the KL Cityho
45 zckls04 : I seem to remember I enjoyed PNH when I arrived there late one night, but looking at pics on google it doesn't look as nice as I remember it. I rememb
46 aloges : I can only speak for FRA, but the notorious bus trips through what feels like the entrails of a severely constipated concrete anaconda do indeed detr
47 NoUFO : Last time I was in Vienna was back in the early 90s and I had the impression that Schwechat was a nice, well-arranged airport.
48 dc9northwest : Well, this was the non-Schengen area (arriving from OTP leaving for ORD in 2000 and a r/t to/from OTP in 2002 or 2003 I think)... it felt very crampe
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