yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5447 times:
World’s Longest Flights
(1 post to follow: the footnotes)
Regularly scheduled passenger flights (or proposed with start dates) flying greater than 4999 nautical miles nonstop.
Looking for a specific flight within the list? Flights are arranged by nautical miles in descending order. Use the Great Circle Mapper http://gc.kls2.com/set at nautical miles to find your route’s distance.
Aircraft are listed with number of flights per week, unless otherwise noted.
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5443 times:
World’s Longest Flights
Footnotes:
* 6503nm AA discontinued after 1 March
** 5174nm TB operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: (TB 624) HKT-BKK-BRU
*** 5015nm CA will join MU and AF on the route with 343 from 25 March
**** 5007nm TB operates nonstop westbound only. Eastbound: (TB 623) BRU-HKT-BKK
â—Š 5055nm NZ operates nonstop southbound only.
â—Šâ—Š 5392nm KE operates nonstop westbound only. Eastbound: (KE 926) MAD-AMS-ICN
â—Šâ—Šâ—Š 5650nm D7 discontinued after 30 March
â—Šâ—Šâ—Šâ—Š 5723nm D7 discontinued after 31March
∆ 5293 CI discontinued 25 March
∆∆ 5025nm DE operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: (DE 2369/5369) HKT-SHJ-FRA
∆∆∆ 5630nm KL discontinued 25 March
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5277 times:
Notable changes to the list since the 17 January 2012 update:
I’m happy to include for the first time the 788 to the active list!
The unusual frequencies listed below on the HND-FRA (5068nm) route are due to the operation of the 787 on every other day in February with the 77E operating on the alternate days.
Schedule Changes of Interest:
5015nm Air China will join MU and AF on CDG-PVG with 343 from 10 March, previously 25 March.
Philippine Airlines returns to GUM on US-Manila flights:
PR operates MNL-LAX and MNL-SFO (6348nm and 6071nm respectively) nonstop in the eastbound direction only. Westbound flights will now operate LAX/SFO-GUM-MNL. Since the spring of 2011 they had operated both these routes via HNL due to runway construction in GUM.
The distance saved in returning to the routing via Guam is significant:
SFO-MNL via HNL: 6691nm vs. SFO-MNL via GUM: 6438nm
LAX-MNL via HNL: 6828nm vs. LAX-MNL via GUM: 6679nm
“[Guam’s] two runways are being extended at a cost of $15 million in an effort to prepare for larger civilian and military aircraft. The airport’s primary runway, designated 6L/24R, will be extended from 10,000 to 12,000 linear feet, and the secondary runway, 6R/24L, has been extended from 8,000 to 10,000 linear feet. Completion of the runway extension projects will equip the Guam Airport with the capability to accommodate long haul, fully loaded flights and direct service to the U.S. West Coast.“
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7724 posts, RR: 55 Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5270 times:
Very sad that Thai will leave the number 7 spot when they discontinue their nonstop A340-500 BKK-LAX service (to be replaced by a 777-200 via Seoul). Looks like I'll have to fly it before it goes!
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5258 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 3): Very sad that Thai will leave the number 7 spot when they discontinue their nonstop A340-500 BKK-LAX service (to be replaced by a 777-200 via Seoul)
I agree, cedarjet. Hate to see a top ten route discontinued.
BKK and Thai take a hit in status:
from the seventh longest flight in the world to #141 (BKK-MAD).
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5254 times:
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10850 posts, RR: 100 Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5021 times:
Thank you!
I find these routes interesting as it shows whom is pushing which aircraft.
While I'm sad to see an ever decreasing fraction operated by the 747, that is as economics dictates.
Lightsaber
ps (edit):
I just noted, with the TI BKK-LAX route change, this makes SQ the last opperator of the A345 on a route that couldn't be opperated by the A346.
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4962 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 6): Thank you!
I find these routes interesting as it shows whom is pushing which aircraft.
While I'm sad to see an ever decreasing fraction operated by the 747, that is as economics dictates.
I have noticed this as well, and it seems to me the trend has accelerated lately. For example, in the February schedules, the only KE 747 to N. America is a single flight to LAX (out 11 stations: ATL ORD DFW LAS LAX JFK SFO SEA YYZ YVR & IAD). Its been many, many years since that's been the case. Seems like a baby blue Korean 744 has been a staple at ORD... forever!
As you imply, its inevitable, but saddening as well.
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4875 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 8): KE's new ICN-NBO flight will probably become the longest non-stop A330 flight in the world when it starts this summer.
BNAOWB had emailed me wondering whether KE's two charters (if I'm remembering right) on this route might lead to a regularly scheduled flight... It was the first I had heard of it.
So they have plans to make it regularly scheduled? And they're to be flying it with a 330?
I could enter it on the list as a proposed if you had a start date. Do you have one? Otherwise I suppose "summer" would do.
At 5431nm it wouldn't quite beat 5652nm Qantas 332x7 on their AKL-LAX route, but no matter, it would be of a rare breed that connects NE Asia with Africa (I can only think of one other: TAAG's 77Ex1 PEK-LAD, 6359nm).
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4836 times:
So, speaking of KE's proposed ICN-NBO flight... its official:
The flight will enter the list as:
(5431nm ICN-NBO Korean 332x3 scheduled 21 June) and will be Jomo Kenyatta International Airport's first nonstop flight above 5000nm.
In the link above, the Flightglobal article speculates the flight may be the longest flight in block time in its westerly direction.
I wonder if anyone can come up with the block times on the longer Qantas AKL-LAX 332 flight in the southerly direction.
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4825 times:
By the way... Before anyone jumps on me
Now that I've had time to do a little research, I realize there are a few more NE Asia to African nonstop flights beyond the DT LAD-PEK flight I came up with earlier:
MS CAI-PEK, ET ADD-PEK, SA 6316nm JNB-PEK along with the MS proposed 5190nm CAI-NRT scheduled for 15 April.
Any others? (I'm talking about NE China / Japan / Korea nonstops to Africa)
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4666 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12): No, I think that's still QF's AKL-LAX A332 nonstop.
As was said, post 9. Actually reading other posters makes for a less repetitive experience on A-Net
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10850 posts, RR: 100 Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4617 times:
Quoting yeogeo (Reply 7): the only KE 747 to N. America is a single flight to LAX (out 11 stations: ATL ORD DFW LAS LAX JFK SFO SEA YYZ YVR & IAD).
Wow... Just wow. I saw a KE 744 at YVR last fall, but that route at 4439nm is 'too short' to make your list. (FYI, thank you for expanding it all the way to 250 routes!)
Reviewing your list, it looks like the 5209nm ICN-LAX is the longest route KE is flying the 744. I'm shocked to see that. I knew it would happen one day, but I thought after the 748I entered their fleet... I see ICN-AKL at 5200nm is next in line. Switching out ICN-ATL and ICN-ORD to the 77W really brings in the radius KE flies the 744.
I suspect this puts ICN-LAX & AKL on notice for equipment change to a more fuel efficient airliner.
Oh well, to be honest, if I flew LAX to ICN, I'd want to try the A388 anyway.
Quoting yeogeo (Reply 10): I wonder if anyone can come up with the block times on the longer Qantas AKL-LAX 332 flight in the southerly direction.
I second that request. Partially as I'm *very* curious on the viable capabilities of the A330-200 (and 788/789/A359/77E and a few others...).
gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5236 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4606 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 14): Quoting yeogeo (Reply 10):
I wonder if anyone can come up with the block times on the longer Qantas AKL-LAX 332 flight in the southerly direction.
I second that request. Partially as I'm *very* curious on the viable capabilities of the A330-200 (and 788/789/A359/77E and a few others...).
From the QF public timetable:
AKL-LAX 12:25
LAX-AKL 13:25
gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5236 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 14): I second that request. Partially as I'm *very* curious on the viable capabilities of the A330-200 (and 788/789/A359/77E and a few others...).
lightsaber, another factor to consider on LAX-AKL is diversion fuel requirements. Apart from CHC (402 nm) and WLG (259 nm) in a pinch, there is not much within 1,000 nm of AKL. From overhead AKL: NOU at 1002 nm, NAN at 1161 nm & SYD at 1169 nm are about all there is that can take a wide body. I don't know what the exact effect is, but it must have one, maybe sunriservalley can make an estimate.
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10850 posts, RR: 100 Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4297 times:
Quoting gemuser (Reply 16): lightsaber, another factor to consider on LAX-AKL is diversion fuel requirements.
Good point. I would still like to know the block times for an A332 capability standpoint. Its one thing to look at payload/range curves. Its another thing to see a route in service.
BNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 350 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4207 times:
Here are the 2141 weekly flights over 5000nm ranked by aircraft:
777 1200
747 379
340 326
380 115
330 95
767 22
787 4
So, well over half (56%) are 777 flights. The A380 has climbed considerably in the last several updates.
Here are the top airlines ranked by number of weekly flights over 5000nm:
United 154 (includes Continental)
Cathay Pacific 147
Air France 118
Singapore 102
Lufthansa 96
Emirates 94
Qantas 89
British 84
Delta 81
Korean 81
KLM 75
American 56
ANA 56
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