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Will There Ever Be An "elite Status" Credit Card?  
User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6636 times:

In the world of low tier elite status benefits being shredded, is it possible for any airline to offer a credit card that basically gives all benefits of an elite member?

There are two credit cards I have which have some elite benefits, but certainly not all:

1. Platinum DL AMEX card: priority boarding, priority check in, 2 free bags, and $25 dollars access into a sky club.
2. UA mileage plus explorer: free bag, priority boarding and one time I got E+ for free -- not sure if that was because of the card or not, 2 free United club passes a year. I was also able to upgrade to J on PS (using money) but the trip was originally paid for in miles.

So will there ever be a credit card (with an extremely high fee likely) that grants all benefits of a DL silver or a UA premier? Seems like in many ways they are already going in that direction.


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3269 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6633 times:

You've just given the maketing gurus an idea so expect it within a year.  


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

Hopefully not.

It's bad enough that the credit cards give you pretty much everything but upgrades now.


User currently offlinedrgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6541 times:

Air Canada/Aeroplan has an American Express Platinum card that provides Maple Leaf Lounge access systemwide and priority security line access at Toronto Pearson, along with the usual premium credit card products. The fee is $500 a year.

User currently offlinejoemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6481 times:
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I realize it is a high end card, but Amex's Centurian card has very good perks that vary where the cardholder is based. US members are automatically enrolled in Delta at the Platinum Level, US Airways at the Platinum level, and Vigin Atlantic at the Club Gold level. Also, you get a refund of any airline charges (bag fees, BoB, etc) up to $200 / yr on one airline of your choice. I understand that UK members also qualify for high tier Cathay Pacific status.

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2355 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6455 times:

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US.../creditcards/presplus/default.aspx

It's a high annual fee card, but it gives cardholders virtually everything elite status does, minus the upgrades. It also offers opportunities to earn status (up to Premier Platinum) through spend alone.

I carry it for the (full) United Club membership, Avis benefits and little else. Spend-based flex PQMs don't count toward 1K status, which I earn anyway through my flying. It's a good card for a primarily domestic traveler for lounge access, since US-based Star Golds cannot access *G lounges on wholly-domestic itineraries. On the international side, the waived FX fee is a nice touch but becoming very common on higher-end cards.

The American Express Platinum Card comes with some nice benefits and the Centurion (Black) card gets you automatic Platinum Medallion status with Delta, among others.

With all that said, take my word for it, put your credit card spend on hotel cards. Hyatt and SPG points are more valuable (IMO) than airline miles and the benefits are more tangible than what you get from airline cards. The Hilton Surpass AmEx is a good deal too... 40K annual spend gets you HHonors Diamond status, which was recently upgraded to include some very competitive new benefits.

[Edited 2012-02-02 08:33:19]

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6430 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 5):

Hilton is awesome compared to SPG. We have an SPG time share and I find the hotels within the network ranging from average to very good but hilton is just EXTREMELY consistent with excellent customer service. The customer service within SPG is kind of meh. But I got turned down by SPG a few years back so I had no intention on reapplying for the card.

The Black delta card, how much the annual fee?



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1455 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
In the world of low tier elite status benefits being shredded, is it possible for any airline to offer a credit card that basically gives all benefits of an elite member?

Not sure. I have the "old" united's highest card. $375 and you get RCC unlimited, and I'm not even sure what else. They've stopped offering it until the "new" one comes out. I'd probably expect it to be called "Explorer Plus" or something like that.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2355 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):

Hilton is awesome compared to SPG.

I like Hilton's properties a lot more, but prior to this latest enhancement, Hilton Diamond took a backseat to SPG Platinum/Hyatt Diamond in my book. I have a few Hilton stays coming up, we'll have to see how they do with the benefit delivery.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):
But I got turned down by SPG a few years back so I had no intention on reapplying for the card.

LOL. Well, if it's any consolation, it's the bank who denied your application, not Starwood. SPG is just a brand on the card.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):

The Black delta card, how much the annual fee?

I believe the annual fee for the Centurion Card is $2500 plus a $5000 initiation fee. The Centurion Card is not Delta-branded, although there is a Delta Reserve American Express with a $450 annual fee that includes SkyClub access.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 8):
LOL. Well, if it's any consolation, it's the bank who denied your application, not Starwood. SPG is just a brand on the card.

AMEX. But I got a Delta Platinum skymiles amex card a year later so I think it has more to do with SPG. My credit has always been good.

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 8):

I believe the annual fee for the Centurion Card is $2500 plus a $5000 initiation fee. The Centurion Card is not Delta-branded, although there is a Delta Reserve American Express with a $450 annual fee that includes SkyClub access.

You know if you were a guy who traveled moderately but also had a lot of money to burn that's actually a great card to have. I wonder what kind of benefits through AMEX it gets you?

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 8):
I like Hilton's properties a lot more, but prior to this latest enhancement, Hilton Diamond took a backseat to SPG Platinum/Hyatt Diamond in my book. I have a few Hilton stays coming up, we'll have to see how they do with the benefit delivery.

SPG's sheraton properties are consistent and clean but nothing to write home about, ever. Westins are much better for the most part but still not as good as a regular Hilton. However sheraton and westin resorts are generally very nice. Not too familiar with Hilton resorts but I'm sure they are great.



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2355 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 9):

AMEX. But I got a Delta Platinum skymiles amex card a year later so I think it has more to do with SPG.

Credit applications and approvals are difficult to understand and necessarily ambiguous, but I can assure you Starwood has nothing at all to do with the American Express bank's determination of whether to extend an unsecured line of credit to a given applicant.

Starwood will have a say in what kind of promotional offer (e.g. signup bonus, fee waiver, etc.) to extend to certain prospective applicants.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 9):
I wonder what kind of benefits through AMEX it gets you?

SICK benefits, though not as extensive nor exclusive as they used to be when the card was strictly invitation-only, based on Platinum Card spend (in excess of $300k annually, according to some reports)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_Card


User currently onlineinfinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5852 times:

SQ has a tie up with Amex, the Krisflyer Gold Amex. For those in their high-tier loyalty program, the PPS Club, they havea PPS and PPS Solitaire Amex. To be a PPS club member you need to spend S$25,000 (about US$21,000) a year on First and Business Class on SQ, Economy doesnt count. To be PPS Solitaire you'd need to spend S$250,000 in First and Business within 5 years.

http://www.americanexpress.com/sg/products/pps/index.shtml

The standard Amex card isn't all that good for perks but these high tier ones are good including earning 1 Krisflyer mile for every S$ spent on the PPS card. The standard one only give you 0.625miles per dollar spent. Good ground perks too it seems

But of course this being SQ don't expect that the card would give you upgrades- it wont. I have a friend who is PPS Solitaire for years. Flies a lot on SQ in First and the Suites and now has the equivalent Amex card as well. He has only gotten an upgrade once, a few years back!


User currently offlinedw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

There are several cards that offer deals like you speak of but they don't come cheap between $450 and $475 a year.

Citi Executive American Airlines AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard ($450 a year)
https://creditcards.citi.com/credit-cards/citi-executive-aadvantage-world-mastercard/

Chase Continental Airlines Presidential Plus MasterCard ($475 a year)
https://creditcards.chase.com/credit-cards/continental-presidential-plus.aspx?MSC=LSBROWSEOPEN


American Express Delta Air Lines SkyMiles Reserve ($450 a year)
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...=3&inav=menu_cards_pc_viewallcards


Other cards that offer exclusive deals with airlines but are hard to get.

J.P. Morgan Palladium Visa Signature
https://creditcards.chase.com/credit-cards/jp-morgan-palladium-card.aspx?MSC=LSBROWSEOPEN


American Express Platinum ($450 a year)
http://www304.americanexpress.com/getthecard/learn-about/Platinum-Card

American Express Centurion (by invitation only)
http://www.americanexpress.com/lacid...ress_centurion_card_benefits.shtml

Barclays Visa Black Card ($495 a year)
https://www.blackcard.com/


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5545 times:

Quoting dw9115 (Reply 12):
American Express Platinum ($450 a year)

Just briefly skimming over the benefits -- why exactly would some $450 dollars for this version of the platinum AMEX card when they can get Delta's platinum for $150 a year and roughly the same benefits?

Quoting dw9115 (Reply 12):
American Express Delta Air Lines SkyMiles Reserve ($450 a year)

While a sexy looking card, the benefits aren't much better than the platium DL amex card. The main benefit is free sky club access, but with the platinum it's $25 a person. I couldn't justify paying $475 a year for that card.

Quoting dw9115 (Reply 12):
Citi Executive American Airlines AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard ($450 a year)

Not worth it

Quoting dw9115 (Reply 12):
Chase Continental Airlines Presidential Plus MasterCard ($475 a year)

Why is chase still offering CO credit cards? UA/CO need to get with the times and offer an updated card in honor of the merger.



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1455 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5529 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):
Why is chase still offering CO credit cards? UA/CO need to get with the times and offer an updated card in honor of the merger.

They haven't rolled out the "club access" card as I noted earlier. They ceased offering the UA version, but not yet the CO version. I think it's because the haven't physically merged OnePass into MileagePlus yet. It puzzles me as well why they are still offering it, but they probably just don't want a gap in the "Club card" offering.


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5505 times:

Lufthansa does it the other way around:

Germany-based elites can apply for a credit card whose €95 annual fee is comped by LH:





The cards double as your frequent flyer card, meaning you have to carry one less card around with you. Very handy!



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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

Did someone just post a valid credit card number and expiry date.    Wow!   


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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1455 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 16):
Did someone just post a valid credit card number and expiry date.       

No.

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[Edited 2012-02-03 09:02:59]

User currently offlinedw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):
Just briefly skimming over the benefits -- why exactly would some $450 dollars for this version of the platinum AMEX card when they can get Delta's platinum for $150 a year and roughly the same benefits?

Well, it's a choice you have to make for yourself remember Delta's Platinum card isn't their highest credit card it's the Delta Reserve that is there highest credit card and it costs $450 a year and offers things the Platinum doesn't so you have to make the choice that will best fit your needs. Personally I have the J.P. Morgan Palladium Visa Signature and it offers way more than just airline benefits and meets my needs great granted it's not the cheapest but it's worth it in my opinion.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):
Why is chase still offering CO credit cards? UA/CO need to get with the times and offer an updated card in honor of the merger.

Because not everything with CO/UA is done yet its just a matter of time and it will become a UA credit card.


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