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Priority Baggage On BA And LX  
User currently offlineLAX888 From Singapore, joined Oct 2010, 279 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Hello dear a-netters!

I have a question regarding priority baggage:

on BA I have flown two times in Club from T5 and they do not seem to give priority labels. Is that normal? The label has a green line though, not sure if the other normal labels have them. The bags were one of the first to come off when I arrived, so I am not complaining.

Also on LX if you are a Silver member you are entitled to use the Business Class check-in desks, however I was told in LHR that priority tags are not attached for Silver card holders (traveling in Y) but then the next time in ZRH I received a priority tag. However even without the priority tag the bags were off as the second or third bag.

So what's up with those priority tags?

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User currently offlineAZA330 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

I am a Silver Executive Club member and when I fly BA I get a bright orange "Priority" sticker added to the bag. Also, they put a "short connection" or "long connection" sticker as well, and that has white background with different colored stripes across. I normally fly through T5 but not from T5... last time I started my journey at T5 in Club was March last year, and honestly I do not remember what they did to my bag then.

User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

All I can tell you is that the green line has nothing to do with the status. It's just to show customs officer upon your arrival that you originated your flight in the EU. Means, when i.e. you arrive in ZRH and leave the bag claim area they would now that you boarded your flight at an EU airport and therefore no bag check is required.
This is due to differences with i.e. the US, as you don't need to reclaim your bags on first port of entry in the EU area. I.e. you could arrive in ZRH from a flight from Frankfurt, which had connecting travellers from i.e. NYC. You would all get your bags from the same reclaim in ZRH, but the customs guy would know that you can pass and the one with the all white labels could be worth further inspection. I've seen such things in other countries, too. i.e. there are red labels in Aesean countries, i.e. Malaysia, and purple labels in Thailand.

As for the rest, I'm sure you can read on Miles&More website if a silver member is entitled to priority tags. If you are not, then be happy that you got some on some occasions. If you are, then you should maybe send an email to LX to tell them that in LHR this is aparently not enforced, at least the time you were.


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3274 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

I find that the majority of the time priority tags make little difference to when bags appear. Flying LX first a few weeks ago, connecting to LX business, my bags came out near the end when I got them in ATH. Often it's not the "priority" tag itself that makes the difference, but the coding on the bag tag. If the code in the tag is correct, it should be loaded into the prioty bag irrespective of their being a colourful tag or not.


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User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

I've always thought the Priority Bag tags were just a ruse to make elites feel better.

User currently offlineLAX888 From Singapore, joined Oct 2010, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
I find that the majority of the time priority tags make little difference to when bags appear. Flying LX first a few weeks ago, connecting to LX business, my bags came out near the end when I got them in ATH. Often it's not the "priority" tag itself that makes the difference, but the coding on the bag tag. If the code in the tag is correct, it should be loaded into the prioty bag irrespective of their being a colourful tag or not.

Thanks Gabriel! That is interesting about the code. I always thought they should make more use of this bar codes on baggage tags.
That is not good to hear about the priority bags with LX. Usually they are quite good with priority bags coming off first.
btw, loved your trip report on LX and you African tour.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 2):
This is due to differences with i.e. the US, as you don't need to reclaim your bags on first port of entry in the EU area. I.e. you could arrive in ZRH from a flight from Frankfurt, which had connecting travellers from i.e. NYC. You would all get your bags from the same reclaim in ZRH, but the customs guy would know that you can pass and the one with the all white labels could be worth further inspection.

That's interesting.

So let's say that I fly LAX-MUC-ZRH, I don't claim bags in MUC and then recheck them? I simply clear immigration at MUC, connect to my ZRH flight and then collect my bags once and clear customs in ZRH?

No wonder they gave me a 40 minute connect time in MUC...



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User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4331 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 4):

:D

At my airport when we send bags down with a Priority tag on them they are loaded in a specific ULD container...that container is the last one to be loaded here at my airport and then the first off when it gets to London.



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 6):
That's interesting.

So let's say that I fly LAX-MUC-ZRH, I don't claim bags in MUC and then recheck them? I simply clear immigration at MUC, connect to my ZRH flight and then collect my bags once and clear customs in ZRH?

Correct. If you are connecting in a Schengen country to a Schengen country you clear customs at your final destination, in this case ZRH.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 8):
Correct. If you are connecting in a Schengen country to a Schengen country you clear customs at your final destination, in this case ZRH.

Nice. So at MUC, I'd clear passport control from the LAX flight and then go directly to the ZRH flight and board. In J class, the connection shouldn't be an issue as long as the LAX flight isn't late and/or the ZRH flight is late departing. I was really worried about being stressed out with a 40 minute connect time, but I assume that if they do misconnect us, LH will put us on the final flight of the day that leaves over an hour later.



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

Yes, that's how it works in Europe (and in quite a few other countries, too... ) . No US bashing (and no CA bashing either), but this also explains why European - especially unused travellers - actually dislike to transfer in the US.

However you will need to pass passport control in your first point of Entry in the Schengen area (and also when exiting, since Schengen also monitors exits with officers, like most of the other countries in the world, but unlike the US). But this is usually straightforward.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 22 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 10):
Yes, that's how it works in Europe (and in quite a few other countries, too... ) . No US bashing (and no CA bashing either), but this also explains why European - especially unused travellers - actually dislike to transfer in the US.

Someone else was saying that at LHR and MUC both you have to go through security screening when entering from the USA even to change planes (or other non-Shen), but it sounds like it's not true at MUC, only LHR? Doesn't make sense to me...



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 11):
Someone else was saying that at LHR and MUC both you have to go through security screening when entering from the USA even to change planes (or other non-Shen), but it sounds like it's not true at MUC, only LHR? Doesn't make sense to me...

Yes, I guess this is true. i remember arriving from SIN with LH and continuing in FRA to MUC. And i had to pass security. I also arrived from Schengen connecting to Schengen within the same Terminal (T4) in LHR and had to pass security, too.

AFAIK schengen states do not consider all arriving extra-schengen flights as safe as if there was a Schengen standard security check. It goes without saying that a flight arriving from the US would have similar safety standards than in Schengen states, but a flight arriving from Africa or even some random place in Asia woudn't. Since it's very difficult to seperate all arriving Schengen flights, all arriving Non-Schengen passengers need to pass security check if they want to continue their travel, in order to have a security check which fulfills Schengen standards. I guess this is the reason for that. Also, this can cause problems to duty free shopping, as too big items (i.e. alcool bottles) may be confiscated at security check if they're not in a sealed bag, since it's more than 100 ml.

That said, this can also happen to you when connecting from Schengen to Schengen due to some airports layout. While you will be safe in MUC, you wouldn't be in VIE, since there is a security Check at every gate and connecting passengers from Schengen, non Schengen and local passengers are not separated airside.
In FRA it can happen as well, depending where you arrive and where you depart, but is more seldom.

However if you arrive from Non schengen and you want to transit, a security check is almost 100% probable. I am unsure, but I think I heard that some airports are starting to seperate i.e. US arriving flight which can be considered "safe" from others being "unsafe" thus saving a security check to the US arriving passengers. Can somebody enlight this?


User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 2):
Means, when i.e. you arrive in ZRH and leave the bag claim area they would now that you boarded your flight at an EU airport and therefore no bag check is required.

Bad example  . On arrival in ZRH, it doesn't matter if your flight has originated in the EU or not as Switzerland is not part of the European Union, only of the Schengen area. Meaning that there is NO free movement of goods between the EU and CH, thus customs fees are charged. Your point holds for CDG/LHR/FRA-MUC vs NYC-CDG/LHR/FRA-MUC or a similar itinerary with the last leg within the European Union!



WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4092 times:

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 13):
Bad example . On arrival in ZRH, it doesn't matter if your flight has originated in the EU or not as Switzerland is not part of the European Union, only of the Schengen area. Meaning that there is NO free movement of goods between the EU and CH, thus customs fees are charged. Your point holds for CDG/LHR/FRA-MUC vs NYC-CDG/LHR/FRA-MUC or a similar itinerary with the last leg within the European Union!

Thanks for pointing this out, indeed you're right and ZRH isn't a good example, it was just to highlight the basic idea of these green tags.


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