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BA 744 Vs. BA 772 Vs. AA 772  
User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

I don't know whether this post is in the right forum or not but if it isn't just move it.

I am finally going to take a trip to London and France and flying into LHR. British Airways/AA has the best deals. I am still yet to take the 744 and the 777 so I am most likely going to take one there and the other back. I would like to ask your opinions on the BA 744, BA 777, and AA 777 based on comfort and service.

Is the BA 772 ER or regular? I know AA has the 2-5-2 and BA has 3-3-3 arrangement. I wanted to fly into LHR and leave from CDG but its more expensive so I will be taking the Eurostar to Paris and back to London to go home.

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User currently offlinePHXA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5843 times:

BA all the way if your talking about traveling in Y.

User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

Yes I will be travelling coach. Any preference as the the BA 744 and BA 772?

Is the 772 the extra range version?


User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5762 times:

I'd say:

Personal preference wise, I'd consider taking the 744 both ways. You'll be offered 777's (or twins that look a lot like them) for a loooooong time, but the 744 will be gone before we all know it. Though adding first flight on 744 and 777 in one trip is also cool.

But definitely go BA all the way.

Also, are you sure about the cost of flying (i.e., did you check one-way airfares CDG-LHR)? I have found some very cheap deals in the past, partiuclarly if you are (eg, random date in September, as low as $97 US, all in). Eurostar (quick check only) is showing fares starting at $122 US one way....

that way you can add another airports and possibly a/c to your list!


User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5685 times:

Yep I am sure about the tickets but keep looking. I may break it up and take the train to Paris and fly back to London. I will only take the BA 777 if its ER.

User currently offlinePHXA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5638 times:

What city are you flying from in the US ? Sorry if I missed it in your first post ... that will help you quickly make the decision of flying the 744 and 777 as they sometimes are exclusive to certain cities.

User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5613 times:

I will be flying from JFK in July.

User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5613 times:

Why ER only? They are the same inside!

User currently offlineBlue100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

Quoting mop357 (Reply 4):
I will only take the BA 777 if its ER.

BA only flies 3 772 that are not of the ER variety. Just from a quick glance, it looks like those planes are regularly used to MCT, AUH, EWR, ORD with occasional appearances in cities such as IAD and PHL. It's a pretty safe bet that you'll be flying on an ER if you choose to fly with BA from JFK.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20679 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Quoting mop357 (Thread starter):
I would like to ask your opinions on the BA 744, BA 777, and AA 777 based on comfort and service.

What's the timeframe for your trip? Later this year AA will be introducing 'Main Cabin Extra', with more legroom in Coach like UA's Economy Plus and DL's Economy Comfort:

http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/mainCabi...ion=DirectURL&title=maincabinextra



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User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5553 times:

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 7):

The ER has a more powerful engine so looking for a powerful take off.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
What's the timeframe for your trip? Later this year AA will be introducing 'Main Cabin Extra', with more legroom in Coach like UA's Economy Plus and DL's Economy Comfort:

First week of July

Quoting Blue100 (Reply 8):

Thanks


User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

Quoting mop357 (Reply 10):
The ER has a more powerful engine so looking for a powerful take off.

Only the crowd here at a.net would understand the inherent reasonabitlity of that statement....


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20679 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

Quoting mop357 (Reply 10):
First week of July

Probably too early for MCE on AA. My suggestion would be to fly BA on the 747 then, so you don't miss riding on one. Look at the threads in the BA forum on flyertalk.com that discuss by aircraft which are the better seats with more room. Since BA will allow you to pay a bit extra for reserving your chosen seat in advance, you might still be able to end up with a great seat for a reasonable price.



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User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3602 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 11):
Quoting mop357 (Reply 10):The ER has a more powerful engine so looking for a powerful take off.
Only the crowd here at a.net would understand the inherent reasonabitlity of that statement....

Quite the reverse, the crowd here at A net know full well that aircraft rarely use full thrust for takeoff. They use the appropriate power for the aircraft weight, runway available and the ambient temperature. On that basis a non ER BA 772 will use exactly the same thrust for a flight from LHR to JFK as an ER model.


User currently offlineflykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5214 times:
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I'm going to be the complete opposite to everyone here and say I'd pick the AA 777.
2-5-2 seating in my opinion is better (unless I'm traveling in a 3); the seat felt both wider than BA's and the legroom also felt better.
Ok, the service isn't as friendly as BA and you'll miss out on the T5 experience at LHR but the American Airlines colour scheme just looks so damn good on the 777.

Kev.



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5208 times:

Quoting flykev (Reply 14):
Ok, the service isn't as friendly as BA and you'll miss out on the T5 experience at LHR but the American Airlines colour scheme just looks so damn good on the 777.

In that case, I'd choose to see it from outside the aircraft  

My choice? BA 747 wins. I was never big on the T7 ever since DL went 3-3-3.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7187 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

744, the last few rows in the back have only 2 seats in the window rows which is nice. So if you want the aisle you only have one person to bother you, if you want window you only have one person to bother. Also there is an odd gap between the window seats so you get a little bit of extra leg room space in those last few window seats in the 744.


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User currently offlineGCPET From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2012, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

British Airways 747! It's like an old friend that plane and it looks magnificent in the British Airways livery. I think BA 77W's are also doing the JFK's at the moment so if you want to try the new World Traveller out one way, be sure get one of these! Looks much improved over the old product.

GCPET



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User currently offlinemop357 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 13):
Quite the reverse, the crowd here at A net know full well that aircraft rarely use full thrust for takeoff. They use the appropriate power for the aircraft weight, runway available and the ambient temperature. On that basis a non ER BA 772 will use exactly the same thrust for a flight from LHR to JFK as an ER model.

Thats true but I have noticed a big difference in the way the 762 and the 752 take off. The 752 has always pinned me to my seat while the 762 feels a little under powered on take offs in my opinion.

I choose to get the best of both worlds. BA 744 going to LHR and AA 772 returning to JFK. Now I am debating whether to fly or take the train to France.


User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Quoting mop357 (Reply 2):
Is the 772 the extra range version?

The non-ER is much rarer though. As said above, all 77Es except 3.

Rgds Sveinn



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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3007 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 3):
Eurostar (quick check only) is showing fares starting at $122 US one way....

Eurostar seats open 4 months ahead, and start at GBP39 one way. You can usually get seats at that price if you book early enough, on the day you want.

If you'd rather fly, check AF, BA, Cityjet and Easyjet.

As for the original question, BA 744 without a doubt! They are the queen of the skies, and will be replaced eventually with A380 and B777. I flew this route last year, shameless plug for my report   :
http://signol.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04...-with-our-son-nearing-2-years.html

signol



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User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1635 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4897 times:

BA by miles, they are far and away the best airline on the New York - London route. In Economy I'd actually step forward and say that American are the worst (actually maybe Kuwait Airways is the worst, then next from the bottom is American). Then comes United/Continental, then probably Delta, with Virgin at second best. All my opinion, of course.

Just a PS I've flown all of them on the route (UA/CO from EWR) except KU - but one of my best friends has and it was an unmitigated disaster to say the least  
Quoting GCPET (Reply 17):
I think BA 77W's are also doing the JFK's at the moment so if you want to try the new World Traveller out one way, be sure get one of these! Looks much improved over the old product.

I agree - if you are looking for the most comfortable and enjoyable travel experience, get on the late night 77W flight. If you are an a.nutter at heart, then take the 744 as they won't be around as long as the 777s will (though at BA they will be around for a while to come yet).



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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4785 times:

Quoting mop357 (Reply 10):
he ER has a more powerful engine so looking for a powerful take off.

Trust me you will not notice any difference in the take off as BA are in uber fuel conserve mode!



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User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 7):

Why ER only? They are the same inside!

Actually they are not, the 777-200s have 17 First seats and smaller World Traveller sections (127 if I recall correctly). They in fact have the largest First compartments of any BA aircraft. That would perhaps only count if you're flying in First though. The 777-200ERs have various configurations though those to JFK are likely to be 4-class with 12 or 13 First seats.

Quoting mop357 (Reply 18):
I choose to get the best of both worlds. BA 744 going to LHR and AA 772 returning to JFK. Now I am debating whether to fly or take the train to France.

Take the Eurostar train - it's quite a different experience! You'll get to travel through the Channel Tunnel in both directions, have comfortable seats without seatbelts, check-in up to 30 minutes before departure, no weight or liquid restrictions and overall an enjoyable journey through the fields of Kent, through the Tunnel and then through northern France. You'll then arrive in central Paris at Gare du Nord and can get the Metro straight to your destination. Trust me, if you try it once you will get hooked - and this is from an aviation enthusiast.

Trintocan.



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