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Best And Worst Airlines: FF Redemptions  
User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5128 posts, RR: 21
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

From the WSJ:

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mb...EA-G-20120516181214-jpg_163210.jpg

Best: Southwest
Worst: Delta


Next Up: STL-EWR-STL for my first mileage run!
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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1966 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4952 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Thread starter):
Best: Southwest

Glad to see WN is #1! This is a direct result of their new Rapid Rewards program which opened up to 100% seat availability. I wonder what their percentage was prior to the new RR program?



My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

What a joke of an article. The criteria for determining Best and Worst are hopelessly flawed, and that's putting it nicely.

There are other extremely important[i] criteria like [i]redemption costs (in miles), fuel surcharge (takes a chunk out of your wallet on some airlines, while not existing on others), and partner carriers (whose inventory is also relevant). And also, an important criteria is ability to earn miles affordably, because you can't burn them without earning them first. WN is absolutely hopeless in this category.



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7550 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Thread starter):
From the WSJ:

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mb...EA-G-20120516181214-jpg_163210.jpg

Best: Southwest
Worst: Delta

Not to nitpick.. but the article has Air Berlin as #1



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17067 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 3):

Not to nitpick.. but the article has Air Berlin as #1

Both AB and WN have 100%, meaning both are #1. Most likely the just used alphabetical order, therefore AB came out before WN.



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1920 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

No shocker on DL being last...skyPesos aren't even worth THAT anymore...might as well value them like the Zimbabwean Dollar!

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3099 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 5):
No shocker on DL being last...skyPesos aren't even worth THAT anymore...might as well value them like the Zimbabwean Dollar!

I've been saying this for several years. DL's FF program is a total joke. There just is never any availability. If there is it will be the higher level of redemption. I look at going to UIO; it's 60,000 miles on AA for First Class and 80,000 on DL for Coach, and that is when it's available.

It's the consumer that lets DL get away with this. Maybe people need to start voting with their feet.

AA and AS used to be great, but even then I'm seeing less availability.

Like I've said, people need to start protesting more. Airlines have no problem giving out FF miles for things like buying flowers, but then never seen to really allow them to be used, except on inconvenient routings (try getting any FF seat on DL SEA-NRT for example) or only during mid-week or only at much higher redemption levels.


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

I agree with the rating for Delta - as for the last 10 years I am trying to redeem my FF miles with them. As noted above if there is a seat available it is always at the highest level. I tried many times even with as many as 12 months ahead of the trip. They just want people to donate their miles or let them expire.

User currently onlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2800 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4019 times:
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No shocker with DL. I can't remember the last time I had even seen a 25,000 mile ticket available, never mind booked one. I looked to redeem a one way to MSP for August. They wanted 40,000 miles, now if I went round trip it would be the same exact thing. That is an absolute terrible way to treat your FFs IMO.
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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5718 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
Like I've said, people need to start protesting more.

What people really need to do is get out of the psychological trap all these "loyalty" programs create.
Money saved here and now is a far bigger benefit than being "loyal" for the sake of a dubious reward sometime in the future. I mean look at all those poor souls wasting money and time on "mileage runs".

Quoting WROORD (Reply 7):
They just want people to donate their miles or let them expire.

Of course.


User currently offlineemirates202 From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 7):
Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 9):

You do know that Delta Skymiles don't expire right? Also, I've never had a problem finding skymiles reward availability to LAX, LAS, SFO, DFW, ATL, all from JFK. First class is what I use my miles for, but Y is usually available. I never understood the comments about not finding availability. I don't like using miles though, bc I like status, and that only comes from revenue tickets, but it's not that hard finding reward seats



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User currently offlineCoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

I also have had serious trouble trying to redeem miles on Delta for anything but the most expensive free tickets. I cashed out and have not used them since. I also am now finding out that Lufthansa is very difficult and I keep losing miles because I can't use them for free rewards. Plus the taxes on the free tickets on LH are shocking. I've decided to stick with United. US or American programs as they have been the best for me. I can still use them for free flights on LH or BA.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5718 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Quoting emirates202 (Reply 10):
You do know that Delta Skymiles don't expire right?

Whether or not they expire is not important. The point I was trying to make was that airlines would love your miles not to be used... preferably at all.


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