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User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 82 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

I am travelling to TXL on Sunday and just wandered are they bothered about the use of air band scanners, Have you had any problems? I am thinking shall I take it or not. What are your experiences at TXL and the rest of the country.

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User currently offlinebueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3953 times:

Quoting BA677 (Thread starter):
Have you had any problems?

Well it's illegal, I know that much... Although I have used one in Germany and had no problems. I actually didn't realise it was illegal at the time, actually had it on (with headphones on) in the airport at Hannover at one point, as well as using it for a morning/afternoon while filming a/c at the airport... Quite a few people walked past, got some funny looks but nothing major...

That said, I wouldn't risk it - it's not worth risking charges, or doing something that is likely to make authorities in the countries in question even harsher when it comes to allowing spotting... So I'd say leave it.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7336 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Quoting bueb0g (Reply 1):
Well it's illegal, I know that much.

Yes it certainly is without ATC ID card for presentation, but I haven't seen anyone actively police it ( even when Polizei nearby)
I am 1 month into a 6 week long European planespotting trip (I'm currently in BRU where it is also illegal). Have spotted at MUC/LEJ/TXL/SXF/DUS in Germany and more besides, however I would recommend any scanner use is not in continuous use in circumstances that don't require it- like when on the dedicated besucher-terasse spots, just use it for stuff like Runway changes, NOTAM weather updates/forecast, when you're in a spot with little forewarning of what is coming and when to go for toilet breaks/finish up for the day(ie: long breaks in transmission).

**this is a disclaimer to say that this is from my own experiences and I'm not responsible for anyone getting nicked**


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Unless the legislation has changed it is not forbidden to use an airband scanner and listen into transmissions personally. The important part is *personally*, as you may not share any information gathered with anybody else.
So,
1. airband scanner with speaker on that loud that another person may listen to it, too, is forbidden.
2. airband scanner used with earphone should be no problem, especially if you are sensitive enough to tuck away the scanner itself it your coat's pocket.

Actual enforcement may vary with location and even with personnel within a specific organization, like local police in one location might not bother but airport security in another location might do.

Having said that, I saw no security guys at TXL's visitors terrace on Saturday, but you have to pass a security check anyhow to enter the terrace. But the guy operating it on Saturday let us pass with all normal electronic items, so I suppose an airband scanner would pass, too.

BTW, entrance fee of 2 € at TXL's visitors terrace is forfeit at the moment as long as the vending machines are broken. 

-HT



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User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Thanks for the replies

Quoting HT (Reply 3):
air band scanner used with earphone should be no problem, especially if you are sensitive enough to tuck away the scanner itself it your coat's pocket.

That's Wat I did HT, I was there on Sunday and was happy with the free entry. It was a enjoyable visit. Their should be more places like the TXL Terrice, Hopfulley BER will have somthing similer.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

Quoting BA677 (Reply 4):
Their should be more places like the TXL Terrice, Hopfulley BER will have somthing similer.

BER is supposed to have a viewing terrace, too. I twas indicated that the terrace would remain closed for the days immediately following the 03-JUN-2012 opening, likely in order to discourage locals to flock out to BER and clog everything.

If you have enjoyed TXL you might consider to head for DUS some time in the future. There you have the options to spot from the roof of the terminal building but also from a dedicated area at the train station overlooking the taxiway to runway end. However, IIRC, photography is through glass.
-HT



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6451 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 5):
However, IIRC, photography is through glass.

Nope, both DUS spots are open decks.



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