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Emirates 380 Diverted To Ottawa On June 1  
User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 22728 times:

Emirates A380 operating EK 241 to Toronto just did a missed approach in Toronto due to wind shear and decided to divert to Ottawa. It commenced the diversion around 1630 local time.

CYYZ 012000Z 09017G25KT 12SM VCSH OVC007 13/12 A2964 RMK SF8 SLP040
TAF CYYZ 011739Z 0118/0224 09018G28KT 4SM -RA BR BKN006 OVC012
TEMPO 0118/0122 6SM -RA BR SCT006 OVC010
FM012200 11018G28KT 1SM RA BR BKN004 OVC008
TEMPO 0122/0124 3SM -RA BR SCT004 OVC008
PROB30 0122/0124 VRB25G35KT 1/2SM +TSRA BR BKN003 OVC008CB
FM020000 22015G25KT P6SM -SHRA BKN020
TEMPO 0200/0203 5SM -SHRA BR BKN006 OVC025
FM020300 22012KT P6SM BKN025
FM021500 22012G22KT P6SM BKN040
FM021700 23015G25KT P6SM BKN050
TEMPO 0223/0224 P6SM -SHRA
BECMG 0223/0224 22012KT RMK NXT FCST BY 012100Z

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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4927 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 22643 times:

Ottawa, now (and for the next 10 weeks) has only one runway for transport sized aircraft. I could see holding now if a bunch of diversions are headed there!


Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 22503 times:

Listening to Ottawa ATC on Liveatc.net, EK241 recently declared a Mayday, probably due to low fuel, and emergency vehicles were dispatched. However, they just cancelled the Mayday. I think they said they had 530 passengers and crew.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 22309 times:

EK241 just landed runway 14 at YOW.

User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 22279 times:

From liveatc: EK 241 just landed in Ottawa R/W 14 and many discussions on the taxi route, Is this the first A380 in CYOW?

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 21944 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
I think they said they had 530 passengers and crew.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
EK241 just landed runway 14 at YOW.

now what do they do. is there a crew on board with enough flyable time to refuel and get going to YYZ again?



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4927 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 21569 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
EK241 just landed runway 14 at YOW.

I can't imagine an A380 doing a non-precision approach into an unfamiliar airport.



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User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 21539 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 5):
now what do they do. is there a crew on board with enough flyable time to refuel and get going to YYZ again?

Grab a beer, pop a slide, and hit the bars.


User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21470 times:

Geez....not enough fuel for even a single go-around? Granted I don't know if they were circling for a long time but it seems odd that they only made one approach before diverting.

User currently offlineAuchmithie From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21378 times:

http://www.theeksource.com reports aircraft as A6-EDD

User currently offlineSlarty From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21362 times:

Flightaware shows the tracking ... zoom in around Toronto/Ottawa area.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...1/history/20120601/0555Z/OMDB/CYYZ


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21143 times:

Just took off from YOW Runway 14, about 2.5 hours after landing. Will mean about a 5 hour delay into YYZ, but weather is still a problem there.

User currently offlinekl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21145 times:

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 8):
Geez....not enough fuel for even a single go-around? Granted I don't know if they were circling for a long time but it seems odd that they only made one approach before diverting.

Yes they did a lot of circling along with LH but LH landed while EK was on it's way to CYOW.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
They just advised YOW Ground that they will be ready to start engines in 5 to 10 minutes to return to YYZ, and the controller said YYZ has advised that they will be given priority for landing due to the diversion. Apparently still a lot of delays to YYZ due to weather. If they do leave YOW in the next 15 or 20 minutes they will have spent about 2.5 hours there, and arrival YYZ will be around 5 hours late.

Just got home from the airport and no show for EK



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21058 times:

YOW newspaper website item, with photo, on the A380's visit to YOW.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/Ca...g%20in%20Ottawa/6716968/story.html


User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20751 times:

Return flight to YYZ came on the Toronto East Radar frequency and was told to hold again at Imeba fix near Lake Simcoe. But the hold was cancelled after one orbit and now being given radar vectors. Also advised that windshear is still being reported at YYZ.

User currently offlineKeKeKumba From Canada, joined Jul 2010, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20547 times:

Words cannot describe the feeling of joy I got when I heard this was coming in.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7317447322_8855ab9564_b.jpg

Lots of spotters, some news crews, and just generally curious people lingering around while I was there.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7396 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20505 times:

How far is it flying time between YYZ and YOW ?


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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20465 times:

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 7):
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 5):now what do they do. is there a crew on board with enough flyable time to refuel and get going to YYZ again?
Grab a beer, pop a slide, and hit the bars.

The quote of the week, if not the month!


User currently offlineKeKeKumba From Canada, joined Jul 2010, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20412 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 17):

40 minutes.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20376 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 17):
How far is it flying time between YYZ and YOW ?

About 45 minutes, block time 1 hour, 197 nm.


User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20208 times:

EK 241 just landed on R/W 15R. Long long day for the crew and the pax. Luckily this is the long layover for the crew; 3 nights instead of the 2 nights on MON/WED flights.

User currently offlinecanoeguy From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 18390 times:

Just happened to be standing at the right place at the right time for this shaky 16 second feature....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5jroLwhNHg&feature=youtu.be


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7396 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 17915 times:

Quoting canoeguy (Reply 22):

THAT is beautiful! thanks for sharing!



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 17708 times:

YOW is the official alternate airport for EK's A380 flight to YYZ, ahead of YUL.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 6):
I can't imagine an A380 doing a non-precision approach into an unfamiliar airport.

Dont know if they flew the VOR-DME 14 approach, but runway 14 is now equipped with a RNAV Approach with an LPV minimum (DH of 253 ft AGL). Thus making it a precision approach capable runway for aircraft that are able to fly the LPV.

Thenoflyzone

[Edited 2012-06-01 21:07:35]


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User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 17658 times:
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No RNAV or RNP approach is a precision aproach especially for alternate minimums. That being said since YOW is likely a diversion airport they probably had all of the RNP and RNAV approaches in their database.

Did anyone else divert?



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25 Cyanide72 : I am so terribly disappointed I missed this! Had it not been for a commitment with someone else, I'd have definitely gone to YOW and grabbed a bunch o
26 don : I just realized that all this excitement happened on the 3rd anniversary of the first Emirates A380 flight to Toronto.
27 katanapilot : i have never been so angry in my life!!!! (ok maybe that's an exaggeration but i'm very bitter). I was out of town tonight and come back to find out t
28 SSTsomeday : Most of my flying experience has been in Ottawa, and at that time runway 14, and Runway 17 in the North Field (for smaller A/C) were the least-used. L
29 76er : Completely normal in todays world of >100$ a barrol oil, even for EK.
30 Post contains images aeroflop : So they had to manually land the aircraft??? I heard its autoland only
31 boeingorbust : Low fuel? Are they not required to have enough fuel to provide one go around and enough to divert to alternate and land?
32 76er : Yes. but that's not what HiFlyerAS implied. Although fuel polocies are different per airline/country, if you have used up your so-called 'route reserv
33 migair54 : Yes, but then if you arrive Ottawa and they tell you, You are number 10 for APP becuase many diversion, then Declare a MAYDAY is the action require t
34 falkerker : Correct me if Im wrong, but carrying extra fuel means burning half of it just getting to your destination. If they were to take fuel from DXB for a l
35 Post contains images 71Zulu : Flight track from Flightaware
36 ltbewr : Wind shear is a very serious issue and EK made the right call. I think the AF A340 that crash landed and went off the runway at YYZ during a storm a f
37 Post contains images lightsaber : I would say a good call from the safety side. Doesn't EK only sit on the ground for 2 hours at YYZ? This would have quite an impact on the return fli
38 longhauler : You must have access to different approaches into YOW. The best I have in my books is the RNAV (GNSS) Rwy 14, with an MDA of 373'AGL + the required 5
39 flightsimboy : EK 241 Arr 1545 Actual 2108 EK 242 Dep 2140 Actual 2337 EK is on the ground in YYZ for 5 hour 55 minutes.
40 Post contains images lightsaber : Thank you. I'm always happy to see correct facts. However, a 2 hour delay will still impact connections. Oh well, I bet there were nice hotels made a
41 bmacleod : When did YOW get clearance/upgraded for A380 operations? Then again it serviced 747s so doesn't that clear it for the A380?
42 cptspeaking : Not an issue for experienced pilots. I fly corporate jets and rarely a month goes by when I don't visit at least 3 or 4 airports I've never been to b
43 Post contains links 71Zulu : It didn't. Av Herald says after it landed on 14, it had to u-turn on the runway and then backtrack to the ramp turnoff. http://avherald.com/h?article
44 Viscount724 : Since the aircraft finally landed at YYZ about 19 hours after departure from DXB, how do crew duty day limitations work for both the pilots and cabin
45 emirates202 : It ended up leaving at 11:37pm. About 2 hours behind schedule.
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