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Major Carriers That Do Not Include Geographic Name  
User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3170 posts, RR: 9
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Most major carriers have names that obviously connect them to their country/region. What are the ones that don't? (I'll include acronyms, as their means usually aren't obvious). Let's look at both current and defunct carriers.

Lufthansa
El Al
MALEV
Aer Lingus ( unless Lingus is a place!)
Aeroflot
Braniff
People Express
Sabena
Qantas


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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Olympic Airways. Now only a domestic carrier but for decades was a prestigious national flag carrier flying 747s to five continents (if that sounds unlikely given the state of Greece and it's airlines in 2012, let me remind you: Europe of course; North America - NY, Toronto; Asia - Bangkok, Singapore, Tokyo; Australia - Mel, Syd; Africa - Nairobi, Jo'burg).

MEA Middle East Airlines. Obviously refers by name to the general region but it is the flag carrier for Lebanon, a single country (as opposed to the old Gulf Air or Air Afrique that is named after the region but this made sense cos they actually had bases in more than one country).

Ansett.

Alia. The old name for Royal Jordanian. "Alia" is a popular girls name in Arabic, and King Hussein named his national airline after his daughter. Name changed to Royal Jordanian Airlines in the late 80s.

Continental Airlines.

National Airlines.

(Technically QANTAS and Lufthansa refer to their origin - QANTAS is of course an acronym and stands for Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service; and Hansa was a medieval German empire, so perhaps it's like BA being Albion Airways or Turkish Airlines being Air Byzantine.)



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User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1030 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Ones I can think of in the US off the top of my head:

Allegient
Spirit
AirTran
Frontier (I guess you could argue that "the frontier" is a place, but it's not refering to any specific geographic location)
United (Unless "United" refers to the United States, but I don't think it does)
Continental (I kind of debated about that one, but since it doesn't refer to any specific continent I decided it counts)

Europe:
Ryanair
EasyJet


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3005 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Jetstar
Kulula
Mango
1Time
Air Austral (kind of...)
KLM (translates as "Royal Air transport Company")
Gol
Avianca
Taca
LAN
Transaero
Braathens

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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Quoting Yflyer (Reply 2):
Frontier (I guess you could argue that "the frontier" is a place, but it's not refering to any specific geographic location)

For most Americans, you say Frontier and the western US typically comes to mind, which happens to be the region of the US both incarnations of Frontier are from.

Quoting Yflyer (Reply 2):
United (Unless "United" refers to the United States, but I don't think it does)

The United name is from when it was known as United Air Lines and was owned by United Aircraft & Transportation, which was a company that "united" business interests in all areas of aviation (engine manufacturers, aircraft manufacturers, airlines). United Aircraft & Transportation was broken up as the result of the Air Mail Act of 1934, which also resulted in United Air Lines being renamed United Airlines as well as a number of airlines due to their "predecessor" airlines being banned from flying and the airlines simply renamed themselves slightly (For example Northwest Airways became Northwest Airlines, American Airways became American Airlines.).


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

BTW, very few know this, but the origin of the Delta name for Delta Air Lines refers to the Mississippi River Delta, since Delta's former headquarters was in Monroe, Louisiana, which is on the Mississippi River Delta.


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User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

West Jet
Jetblue
easyJet
Ryanair (I think)
AF Cityjet
KLM Cityflyer
flybe (the BE part used to be 'British European, but I think it's lost all meaning now there's a flybe nordic)


User currently offlineairtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1558 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Maybe not all majors but here are a few...
JetStar
Tiger Airways
Frontier
Tarom
Lot
Wizzair
JetairFly
Avianca
LAN
Condor

...and many more  



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

Dragonair (if you consider them major)
TAM (the M used to stand for the city of Marília and then for "Meridionais" which is "southern" in Portuguese)

There are also FlyLo and Our Lady Air...   



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User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
West Jet

Have to challenge that one- Westjet definitely refers to the geographic "West" in Canada. Founded in Calgary, the early plan had it serving the West (generally referring to everything west of the Ontario-Manitoba border). It has since expanded of course.

Other Canadian examples of smaller but notable air services::
Porter Airlines
First Air
Jazz

Arguable
SkyService (Is the Sky a geographic location?)
SunWings (Refers to winter vacation spots, so might be a geographic reference similar to SouthWest, etc.,etc.)
Harbour Air (I don't know if this refers to '1' Harbour specifically, or if it means any harbour!



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User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

Hmmm, this far into the thread, and we are having trouble deciding if Virgin is a geographic location or destination?
I suppose it could be consdiered a place to go...or a place to get away from.



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4634 times:

Former Canadian carrier Wardair (acquired by Canadian Airlines in 1989), named for its bush pilot founder and CEO for its entire history, Max Ward (now 90 and still living in YEG where he was born).

Recent interview:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...-aviation-industry/article4219779/



User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

How about:

Etihad
TAM Airlines
GOL
EVA Air
Jet Airways
Kingfisher
Arik Air
Aerosvit

[Edited 2012-06-11 15:41:23]

User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Qantas

This is true now, but QANTAS was originally an acronym standing for "Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services."

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 1):
MEA Middle East Airlines

The OP included region, which I would certainly say applies. Just because the airline chose an ambitious name attempting to cover the entire broader region doesn't make it any less geographic.

Quoting airtrainer (Reply 7):
Lot
- - - - - -
Avianca

LOT is actually named "Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT" in Polish, and does business as "LOT Polish Airlines" in English. In both cases, it definitely refers to Poland. Avianca is an acronym in Spanish for "Aerovías Nacionales de Colombia," so it also references its country.


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2047 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4608 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Qantas

Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service (or so). How is that not a geographical name?

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5659 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 14):
Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Qantas

Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service (or so). How is that not a geographical name?

Cheers
Coal

Because there is no airline today named Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Service and has not been since the 1930s. The name is "Qantas" which really has no geographical referents and doesn't even stand for Q.A.N.T.A.S any more. How many people think of Queensland & the Northern Territory when they hear "Qantas"? Not many, even in Australia.

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User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1063 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Lion Air
Silkair
Firefly
Scoot
Ryanair
Easyjet
Jetblue

That's all I can think for now.



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User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5576 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Aer Lingus ( unless Lingus is a place!)

It doesn't make it any more "geographically relevant", but...

Aer Lingus is gaelic for "airlines"

The only other airline I can come up with with such a name is the re-branding of AR as simply "Aerolineas"



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User currently offlineBluebird191 From Papua New Guinea, joined Apr 2011, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

I'm one for arguing that Qantas does include geography - when QF was founded back in the 1920's, it was an acronym for Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Service. They may not promote their acronym (or should we say former acronym) but thats what it did signify back in the day. Now that Qantad almost considers Sydney and Melbourne as almost the sole international airports in Australia, the acronym sadly no longer carries any meaning or significance.

User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3170 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

I wrote in my op that acronyms don't make the place obvious. Thus Qantas, Sabena, etc are on my list.

Let's add TWA.



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User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 17):

The only other airline I can come up with with such a name is the re-branding of AR as simply "Aerolineas"

Aeroflot would be pretty close, with a literal translation of "Air Fleet" in English.

Looking again through some of the lists above, I noticed a few more that people have named but are indeed geographically named:

Malev Hungarian - this one is a little bit of a grey area since Malev Ltd. was the name of the company, but they always did business as Malev Hungarian Airlines.

TACA - this was originally an acronym for Transportes Aéreos Centroamericanos (Central American Air Transport), but has been changed and now is an acronym for Transportes Aéreos del Continente Americano (Air Transport of the American Continent). Either way, both are based in geography.

TAROM - TAROM is an acronym for "Transporturile Aeriene Române" in the full name S.C. Compania Națională de Transporturi Aeriene Române TAROM S.A. However, even with the acronym, the company does business as TAROM Romanian Air Transport.


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2047 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 20):
TACA - this was originally an acronym for Transportes Aéreos Centroamericanos (Central American Air Transport), but has been changed and now is an acronym for Transportes Aéreos del Continente Americano (Air Transport of the American Continent). Either way, both are based in geography.

Same for Avianca. It used to be Aerovias Nacionales de Colombia (previously known as Scadta, Sociedad Colombo-Alemana de Transporte Aereo). Now, Avianca stands for something like Aerovias del Continente Americano, which makes sense given their merger with TA.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineTW From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

The names of Sabena and TAM do refer to their geographic origin.
Sabena = Société Anonyme Belge d’Exploitation de la Navigation Aérienne
TAM = Taxi Aéreo Marilia (a city in the state of SP)


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting TW (Reply 22):
TAM = Taxi Aéreo Marilia (a city in the state of SP)

That used to be the meaning. They changed it to "Transportes Aéreos Meridionais" and nowadays, AFAIK, the acronym isn't supposed to mean anything.

In any case:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
I'll include acronyms, as their means usually aren't obvious



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User currently offlineTruemanqld From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

I find it funny that QF doesn't even mention Australia in the name, but would (arguably) be the most recognised airline in the world, just by its tail...

25 HOONS90 : Spring Airlines SpiceJet Airblue Jin Air Peach Aviation Uni Air Transavia Windjet Vueling Colgan Air Pinnacle Airlines Republic Airlines Compass Airli
26 eurowings : Close, but "Lingus" isn't actually an Irish Gaelic word, it's an Anglicisation of "Loingeas", which means 'fleet' or 'shipping'. In this context it's
27 steex : I think most people knew what TWA stood for, but I reckon you could probably still include it since "world" lacks any specificity at all in a geograp
28 Post contains images zrs70 : Which of these is a major carrier?
29 HOONS90 : Spring Airlines: 28 aircraft + 5 on order SpiceJet: 40 aircraft + 29 on order Transavia: 32 aircraft Vueling: 55 aircraft Colgan Air: 62 aircraft Pin
30 zrs70 : My bad! I should remove People Express, then, as well! There are tons on small, mickey mouse airlines, that have more generic names, which is why I w
31 Akiestar : Like LOT, Malév in Hungarian stands for Magyar Légiközlekedési Vállalat, which literally means "Hungarian Airlines".
32 srbmod : The original name for TWA was Transcontinental & Western Air (It was created from the merger of Transcontinental Air Transport and Western Air Ex
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