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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

I am flying from LHR to JFK and have a 7 hour connection before my next flight, all of which is in Terminal 3 at JFK.

Any recommendations on what to do with the long layover?

I have been to JFK several times before, but never to T3. Is it viable to get outside of the airport for a few hours, or is it not worth it?

Also I believe you can purchase a one day pass to the Delta lounges, again; is it worth it?

Thanks in advance.

Rob!   

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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4817 times:
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Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
I have been to JFK several times before, but never to T3. Is it viable to get outside of the airport for a few hours, or is it not worth it?

Yes if you take the train and not the subway.

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Also I believe you can purchase a one day pass to the Delta lounges, again; is it worth it?

Yes, if you don't leave the airport it definitely is. $50. Free booze, snacks, internet and peace and serenity  



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User currently offlinethreeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4807 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 1):
Yes if you take the train and not the subway

E Train vs. LIRR is not a massive time difference, though. Only matters if your destination is near Penn Station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpo...rk_City_area_airports#AirTrain_JFK


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Are you a fan of historic airport architecture? If yes, you could take an express bus (called NYC Airporter) to LGA, go to the Marine Air Terminal and explore that for a while. All the interesting bits are before security and quite unique to that place. Seven hours should certainly be enough for that.


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

This might be a different idea, there is a slot/electronic gaming casino near JFK, it opened up late last year. Here is some info on it: http://www.rwnewyork.com/index.php

User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 4):
This might be a different idea, there is a slot/electronic gaming casino near JFK, it opened up late last year. Here is some info on it: http://www.rwnewyork.com/index.php

And if that's not a good way to waste your money, here are some more ideas:

1. Give you money to a hobo in need, there are quite a few around, I'm sure.
2. Use it to buy drugs from the local dealer in Queens... Being NY, I'm sure there's a lot of choice... Well, unless it's a Requiem for a Dream type scenario.
3. Throw it in the East River and watch it float away, if the radioactive mutant crocodiles don't eat it first.


Going to NY and spending your time in a casino... Actually, that's probably the worst idea I've ever heard. Seriously, you can at least watch every western type in existence at JFK or go to the city, which is arguably the most famous destination in the world... Gaming casino!?

That said, JFK is somewhat poorly connected to the city, given there's no direct public transit link. But it doesn't take that much time to get there.


User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

My recommendation: Take Airtrain/LIRR to Penn station. I think it is about $12 if you buy the unified ticket, takes about 30 minutes. From Penn Station you can walk to the Empire State Bldg and if there is no line take the ride to the top. Total time about 1 hour, maybe 1.5 hours. From Empire State bldg (or if you skip it) walk to the Second Ave. Deli. You can look up the address. It is about a 10 minute walk. Eat something completely unhealthy. Enjoy life.

Return to Penn Station and take LIRR/Airtrain back to JFK.

The only really tricky thing is figuring out the right train to take out of Penn Station. Just ask someone standing around waiting for a train how to get to Jamaica Station (which is where you switch to Airtrain.) Ask nicely and people are very helpful.

If tall buildings and/or good delis are not your idea of a good time, what ever is can be found in New York City. Why miss it?


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Quoting aklrno (Reply 6):
From Penn Station you can walk to the Empire State Bldg and if there is no line take the ride to the top.

I strongly recommend the Rockefeller Center ("Top Of The Rock") - the observation deck is the same height as the Empire State Building but the view is much better cos you can SEE the Empire State Building, whereas if you're standing on it, it's the one building missing from the skyline. And there is no queue (there is always a queue for the Empire State Building, sometimes for hours) cos its less famous. Plus you can admire the flags of the entire world at the base. It's a little further from Penn Station, just a few extra minutes.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 6):
The only really tricky thing is figuring out the right train to take out of Penn Station.

I strongly disagree, there is a big board above the ticket counters which shows the next train, and, if memory serves, the train after that as well. Easy as pie.

My own recommendation, if you like to read, is Strand Books - 18 miles of shelves holding 2.5 million books. 828 Broadway (cnr of E 12th St). They ship worldwide for next to nothing, so you can dump a pile of books on the counter, pick one out for the plane ride, and the rest will arrive at your door a few weeks later for almost no extra cost. Highly recommended.

http://www.strandbooks.com



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User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 7):

Quoting aklrno (Reply 6):
From Penn Station you can walk to the Empire State Bldg and if there is no line take the ride to the top.

I strongly recommend the Rockefeller Center ("Top Of The Rock") - the observation deck is the same height as the Empire State Building but the view is much better cos you can SEE the Empire State Building, whereas if you're standing on it, it's the one building missing from the skyline. And there is no queue (there is always a queue for the Empire State Building, sometimes for hours) cos its less famous. Plus you can admire the flags of the entire world at the base. It's a little further from Penn Station, just a few extra minutes.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 6):
The only really tricky thing is figuring out the right train to take out of Penn Station.

I strongly disagree, there is a big board above the ticket counters which shows the next train, and, if memory serves, the train after that as well. Easy as pie.

My own recommendation, if you like to read, is Strand Books - 18 miles of shelves holding 2.5 million books. 828 Broadway (cnr of E 12th St). They ship worldwide for next to nothing, so you can dump a pile of books on the counter, pick one out for the plane ride, and the rest will arrive at your door a few weeks later for almost no extra cost. Highly recommended.

http://www.strandbooks.com

I agree with all of this. Top of the Rock is very nice, and in nice weather the outside deck is a huge area to walk around. I was just concerned with distance. You could ride the subway, but a $6-8 taxi ride should get you there in 10-15 minutes.

The problem with the Penn Station train board is that it usually lists the final destination or route, not necessarily the intermediate stops like Jamaica. Even if you think you know which train you want, double check with someone boarding.

If you go to Top of the Rock you might change your deli choice. From there the Stage Deli is very close, but a bit pricier. I would avoid Carnegie Deli. They seem unnecessarily rude to tourists and not very flexible. Try the cheesecake at the Stage. Then take the leftovers on the next flight. The leftover cheesecake would probably keep an ordinary person fed for a week.


User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4510 times:
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Seven hours is a long time, but not an eternity!. There is almost nothing you cannot do in the the greater NYC area... provide you are prepared to instantly turn around and return to JFK. In other word, you have time to get anywhere, but not enough time to stay anywhere!

Assuming you are flying Skyteam carriers, I would assure that I had a pass to one of the Sky Clubs in Terminal 3, use their free wifi to connect to the internet, drink their free booze, eat their very basic snacks, read a book, watch TV etc.

I wouldn't break my neck trying to rush through any off-airport activity.


User currently offlineBlue100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Quoting aklrno (Reply 8):
The problem with the Penn Station train board is that it usually lists the final destination or route, not necessarily the intermediate stops like Jamaica. Even if you think you know which train you want, double check with someone boarding.

Well getting to Jamaica with the LIRR is extremely easy since just about every line from Penn Station goes through Jamaica (with exception of the Port Washington branch), which is why you will generally have quite a few trains each hour that stop at Jamaica. I think this is the most significant difference between the NJT service to EWR and the E / LIRR connections to JFK. I found that on weekends, NJT service was very infrequent, which is rarely an issue when going to JFK.

As for the comments above regarding 'Top of the Rock,' I completely agree. I took some friends from out town there and the view was amazing. If you happen to be in that area, you're also just a short walk away from Central Park, which is always one of my favorite places to go to in the city.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8379 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Walk up to an agent and ask to be put on standby for an earlier flight out  

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3975 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 11):
Walk up to an agent and ask to be put on standby for an earlier flight out

Without Skyteam status, that won't be an option. No standby on DL, but he could try same day confirmed.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3898 times:
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
Without Skyteam status, that won't be an option. No standby on DL, but he could try same day confirmed.

SDC is not applicable to international itineraries. (Exceptions have been made!) That said, we do not know if this is all on one locator number. And the other factor that can nix a SDC is having checked luggage.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 13):
And the other factor that can nix a SDC is having checked luggage.

They've gotten really stingy with SDC lately too. I watched a flight leave ATL a couple of weeks ago with 6 open seats but, alas, they wouldn't sell me SDC (it was a B ticket, so no fare class issue).



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