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KLM MD-11, 747 Combi, Or DL A333?  
User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

Hey everyone,

I'm preparing for an upcoming trip to the Middle East in Y and am looking to connect thru AMS with KLM. My flight options for the AMS leg include MD-11 service out of ATL, 747 Combi service out of JFK, or DL A333 service out of either DTW or MSP. Alternatively I could do DL 767 out of ATL or MSP, but I don't think this is the best option. Do you have any recommendations? I've reviewed other posts and it appears all three offer PTVs (not DL 767s). When KLM retrofitted their 747s and MD-11s with PTVs did they receive entirely new seats as well? Connection times on all are acceptable, so I'm just looking for your recommendations. Thanks!

Alitalia777

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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

MD-11 hands down. The A333 will be around for years and the 744 Combi.. Well, I'd say it'll be around for a little while. But the MD-11 will soon be phased out completely and you may never get another chance to fly in one.


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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17065 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5077 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
MD-11 will soon be phased out completely and you may never get another chance to fly in one.

  


Definitely go with the MD11. It will likely be your only choice to fly on that bird.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1688 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

Go for the MD-11 I would say; the first 2-3 will be scrapped this year already, so their operational life with KLM will come soon...


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User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Thanks for the responses so far! I've had an opportunity to fly an MD-11 previously with Delta back in the early 2000's and I remember enjoying the aircraft. From a comfort standpoint, how does the MD-11 compare?

I've flown on an Alitalia 747-200 but never on a -400, so that does make the 747 option somewhat intriguing as well.

Alitalia777


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8997 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5012 times:
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Quoting Alitalia777 (Thread starter):
AMS leg include MD-11

Like the other guys said: MD11 for sure! I did 300+ flights on the MD11 and I enjoyed them all. And soon they are gone, so go for it as long as possible.

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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 4):
I've flown on an Alitalia 747-200 but never on a -400, so that does make the 747 option somewhat intriguing as well.

Yeah but it's a fact that the 744 will still be around for some time, unlike the MD-11. There are huge fleets still within the likes of BA, which will take some time to be replaced.



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User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

How about MD11 there, 744 back? Or are you taking another airline back?

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 7):
How about MD11 there, 744 back?

That's what I'd suggest. In theory, anyway.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3889 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4965 times:

Nothing to think about. The answer is obvious   :




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User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2181 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4918 times:

From an enthusiasts point of view, most definately the MD11 as everyone has already said. As for a comfort, I'd say the DL A330. I flew AMS-YUL last year on the MD11, I enjoyed it but hated being stuck in a window seat in a 3-X-3configuration (although having said this you could go for the last row which is two abreast on either side).

My flight ATL-AMS the next day was far more comfortable, 2-4-2 is far more bearable and the cabin was far more comfortable in general.

I know I'm gonna be hated for saying that, but an opinion is an opinion. Be assured that I also hate myself just a little bit for preferring the A330!

If I could fly the MD11 again, I would. But it would depend on the length of flight and if I could get the back row/an upgrade.



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User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4864 times:

Flights haven't been booked yet, but I think the decision has been made: 747 out of JFK. I need to do my Global Entry interview, and JFK is the only place that is available during the times I'll be in transit. I've never been on a 747-400 and the last 747(-200) that I was on, was Alitalia in 2000. I'm due!

I imagine they have PTVs?

Thanks for all of your input!


User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

Well one other question: is 2.5 hours adequate time to connect to a KLM Middle East-bound flight in AMS? Thanks!

Alitalia777


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Quoting Alitalia777 (Thread starter):
When KLM retrofitted their 747s and MD-11s with PTVs did they receive entirely new seats as well?

Yes. When they added PTVs on the MD-11s they also changed the Y class seating configuration from 2-4-3 to 3-3-3.

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 12):
Well one other question: is 2.5 hours adequate time to connect to a KLM Middle East-bound flight in AMS?

You can easily do it in half that time.


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