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Ord To Dubai, What Airline Would You Choose?  
User currently offlineATCguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Hey everyone, new member, first post. Was thinking of traveling to Dubai from ORD, and was curious as to which airline people would recommend? I ask because I'm 6'3 230lbs, so traveling long distances in planes can get quite uncomfortable. Choices would be United through IAD, America/British Airways/Emirates through Heathrow, Lufthansa through Frankfurt, or Swiss through Zurich.

I've never flown long haul international before, but I've heard that foreign carriers are generally preferred to fly on vs US carriers. Truth?

Anybody with specific info on United's 777 from IAD to DXB, I would appreciate it, as this flight is one of the cheapest and the arrival time into DXB is the most convenient.

Just looking for some people's opinions. Basically if price and schedule were not a factor, which airlines would people choose!

Thanks!

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User currently offlineemirates202 From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6329 times:

Why EK thru LHR? Do EK thru JFK on the A380. I'm sure you will enjoy it. I know you can do the A380 via LHR as well, but it's easier thru JFK. Just book a cheap UA/DL/AA for ORD-NYC and fly emirates 202 out of JFK. If your trip is after January 1st, then do EK 204 which will also be an A380 by then. I think it is easier than going thru London.


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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9646 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6325 times:

Quoting ATCguy (Thread starter):

Anybody with specific info on United's 777 from IAD to DXB, I would appreciate it, as this flight is one of the cheapest and the arrival time into DXB is the most convenient.

If it is in your budget, the economy plus seat on United is not bad for comfort. The 36’’ pitch is adequate and 9 abreast on a 777 is about as wide as an economy seat gets. Economy plus is about $60 extra each way. World Traveller plus is better on BA, but that typically is more expensive than economy plus.

US carriers do get a bad reputation, especially on airliners.net. There are some on the forum that say that long haul on United is equivalent to a death march and that Emirates is lavishly luxurious. There is some truth behind that, but the only specific measureable difference I know of is no free liquor. Other than that it is all subjective such as crew, airport staff, meal quality, airplane comfort, etc. In my opinion, long haul economy is miserable on every airline. You are stuck in an uncomfortably small chair and herded through lines with minimal customer service on every airline. Sure you can pay more to have a flight attendant in a tight skirt smile at you with shiny lipstick, but in my opinion, I’d fly on cost and convenience. It’s just my opinion, but economy on all the airlines you mention is relatively similar as they all offer AVOD IFE, free meals, and a long boring trip in a seat that you don’t fit very comfortably in.

I think long haul economy comparisons are widely exaggerated. It’s always miserable. In premium cabins there’s a big difference and I’d have a much stronger opinion if you asked me about service differences up front. In back, choose on cost and convenience and earn some miles if you can.



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User currently offlineATCguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6324 times:

I looked at that, but I'm booking for 2 people, and it looks like it'll cost over $1000 more to take EK from JFK. I'd love to fly EK A380 more, but I'm ok just taking it from DXB back to LHR and save that money. Also, this may be a dumb question, but why doesn't EK fly to ORD? Can't they get a slot? Will they ever?

User currently offlineemirates202 From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

Quoting ATCguy (Reply 3):

EK probably will fly to ORD in the near future. Nobody knows exactly when. I'm pretty sure they can get the slot, but they will probably hold off for another 2 years. I see that one of the destinations higher on the list, along with DTW, ATL, and many more American destinations. I guess well have to wait and see  



Fly Emirates, Hello Tomorrow
User currently offlinePI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 679 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6169 times:
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Welcome to A.Net. You'll find valuable information and feedback here so I am sure you'll enjoy being a part of this great website as one of its members. It can be a valuable resource, and always an interesting and sometimes fun read.
To your topic and question. Do you belong to a specific frequent flyer program you accrue miles in even with an occasional flight or credit card use? A trip to DXB is a long ride so you would first want to consider your investment in a ticket paying you rewards for its use. Living in Chicago, a logical choice of program would likely be UA or AA and their alliance programs provide travel options on the LH, LX and BA flight options. DL and its SkyMiles partners AF/KL also offer DXB service including DL's nonstop service via ATL and they offer Economy Plus/Comfort options such as UA.
Do consider cost and schedule convenience. Your first international trip should not involve multiple plane changes, long lay-overs and oddball routings for the sake of a cheap ticket. Part of the experience is the flying and travel involved and it can be a sorry start to a vacation if you're beat half to death when you arrive.
Think best fare, schedule convenience and least likely scenario of flight delays/disruptions with multiple plane changes particularly if you have limited travel time. 2 days are taken up just traveling to and from, and factor in time changes and recovering from jetlag.
You have said that UA offers the best fare and schedule. Two important considerations decided almost for you right there. As suggested by Roseflyer, buy up to UA Y+ (you saved $$ on the ticket right?) for the added legroom and seat comfort. Also budget for bag fees roundtrip and that glass of wine or beer the 2 of you have with dinner on board.
Now where are you money-wise in comparing the choices on AA/BA, LH/LX or DL/AF/KL? Keep in mind with these 3 airline programs you'll accrue miles for your trip so factor in who most likely you'd fly with in the future.
I am not sure I'll be as quick to rank traveling Y class as miserable in every experience. Many factors can contribute to an unpleasant experience with delays, crying kids, less than delicious meals, and the potential for a crew with a like attitude; however, no two flights are alike and many can be routine, almost ho hum pleasant experiences. Not to speak of getting you to a new and exciting place to visit. As my beloved Grandmother told me "Stop your complaining. You'll never know the difference a hundred years from now." Or my favorite "This too shall pass."
UA is getting a lot of bad press right now. It is a difficult time for UA and its people, but I would not rule them out as a serious contender for your business. There are good people at UA working everyday to make their airline a success, and in time they'll overcome many of their merger-related shortcomings.
You will not fly in the lap of luxury to DXB if you don't buy it, but you're not strapped into a 1945 troop transport riding in bucket seats either. You're not going to get Filet Mignon and Champagne in Y so don't expect it.
So vote with your wallet. What airline will you likely fly with the most (even a new one you pick for this trip) in the future? Does that airline offer you the BEST VALUE for your money (even if a bit pricier) for schedule convenience, service, and reputation for reliable operation? That criteria certainly includes UA.
Good Luck with your plans. Let us know what you book,
Thomas
P.S. Not sure flying EK all those miles offer any reward as they do not code-share or partner with any US based airline.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9646 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6145 times:

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 5):
P.S. Not sure flying EK all those miles offer any reward as they do not code-share or partner with any US based airline.

Emirates is partners with Alaska. Alaska isn't the most useful airline out of ORD, since they only fly to PDX, SEA and ANC, but Alaska is also partners with AA. You can fly Emirates, earn Alaska miles and redeem them on American.



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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
There is some truth behind that, but the only specific measureable difference I know of is no free liquor.

and baggage fees. UA charges for checked bags while EK does not.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9646 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6031 times:

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 7):
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
There is some truth behind that, but the only specific measureable difference I know of is no free liquor.

and baggage fees. UA charges for checked bags while EK does not.

UA is free for the first bag.



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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5961 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 8):
UA is free for the first bag.

Well EK offers 2 free checked bags. It is still different


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

How about EY ORD-AUH? There is a free connecting EY coach service from/to AUH Airport to Dubai which takes just over 1 hour. This is probably the most direct route you could take. The free baggage allowance for economy class would be 2 pieces at 23kg each.

User currently offlineATCguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

I looked at the EY flight to AUH. That'd be nice, but it's significantly more expensive. It's looking like UA ORD-IAD-DXB there, and LH DXB-FRA, UA from FRA-ORD might be how I'm going. Still considering BA ORD-LHR-DXB there, and EK DXB-LHR, and AA LHR-ORD back.

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