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NRT Security Screen Between Flights Question  
User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4888 times:
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Greetings fellow Anetters!

We will be flying MSP-NRT-SIN early next year (in BusniessElite on a 77L for the first time, very excited!) and I am wondering if we will have to get off the plane and go through the, at times, very slow and inefficient between flight segment security screening in NRT. The MSP-NRT-SIN segments are on the same 77L but we have different seats and different ticket numbers/reservations (used miles for the long segment, paid for the short segment).

The HKG-MSP flight via NRT is on different 77Ls so I assume we will have to go through the "middle man" on the way back.

Any insights/ideas/comments would be appreciated.

Also, I have my fingers crossed that the 77L will go back to a 74S with the new Business Elite mod, but I won't hold my breath.

Thanks!

MSPjefe

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25754 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Yes you will clear security at Narita.

You will deplane and have option of either being channeled to Japan arrivals or the transfer section. Since you are continuing you will go towards transfer and reclear security.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9666 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

Yes you clear NRT security. I am not sure how you got such a negative opinion for it. It has never taken me more than ten minutes.


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User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2072 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
I am not sure how you got such a negative opinion for it. It has never taken me more than ten minutes.

  

I would say 10mins at most from the first few rows of Y on an SQ A380 to the NH lounge. It is VERY efficient.

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25754 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

IMO, NRT can be hit or miss for the security time.

I've arrived and been the first one in line at times, while others there have been hundreds of people in front with the queue backed up down the gate concourse.

I think its really a matter of how many other simultaneous arrivals there are those few minutes and how many hundred/thousand passengers are dumped in the concourse at the same time.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1689 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4766 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Thread starter):
The MSP-NRT-SIN segments are on the same 77L but we have different seats and different ticket numbers/reservations (used miles for the long segment, paid for the short segment).

The HKG-MSP flight via NRT is on different 77Ls so I assume we will have to go through the "middle man" on the way back.

Keep in mind that flight number doesn't directly correspond to aircraft. Though DL 621 is a single flight number MSP-NRT-SIN and both segments are operated by the 77L, there is a non-zero chance that they will be operated by different aircraft.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
You will deplane and have option of either being channeled to Japan arrivals or the transfer section. Since you are continuing you will go towards transfer and reclear security.

There's two distinct lines and recently the staff has been checking everyone to make sure they're going to the right place

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
IMO, NRT can be hit or miss for the security time.

Arrivals for me has been about 20 minutes from deplaning to getting a ticket for the bus. I absolutely love how quick NRT is. Always very welcoming too, and actually does nothing to help the overwhelming fact that I've returned to Japan (which is quite overwhelming for me, given my area of study)



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User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4726 times:
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Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
I am not sure how you got such a negative opinion for it. It has never taken me more than ten minutes.

The 6 times I have been through NRT only once did it take less than 30 minutes to get through security, and once in May of this year it took 1.5 hours. It did seem like earlier in the day things went more smoothly.

[Edited 2012-08-06 17:46:15]

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 7):
The 6 times I have been through NRT only once did it take less than 30 minutes to get through security, and once in May of this year it took 1.5 hours. It did seem like earlier in the day things went more smoothly.

I'm curious to know which airline and terminal you're flying through. Always for me, DL, and terminal 1, there are no issues.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1689 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):
I'm curious to know which airline and terminal you're flying through. Always for me, DL, and terminal 1, there are no issues.

I'm rather surprised by this also. I've generally had it take between 2 and 20 minutes, with 30 minutes being the absolute max.

To the OP, keep in mind that when flying in BE you will at least get to security before almost everyone else on your plane. That can be a huge benefit at times.


User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4605 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):

I'm curious to know which airline and terminal you're flying through. Always for me, DL, and terminal 1, there are no issues.

Me too, never in BE but always in Y+ so not a huge difference. Maybe I'm just unlucky or have been in NRT on days when they are understaffed...


User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1105 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

I have been through there many times and it's relatively painless. Since you are BE, you go through a seperate line and it should not take long at all. Unless your first flight is late, you'll still have time for the lounge.

User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6346 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
IMO, NRT can be hit or miss for the security time.

I agree. There was a time a couple years ago when I transited NRT about 8 times a year, and sometimes it would take 5 minutes, and another 30. Even coming off of the same flight number at the same time.

[Edited 2012-08-09 11:24:56]

User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4535 times:
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Quoting copter808 (Reply 11):
I have been through there many times and it's relatively painless. Since you are BE, you go through a seperate line and it should not take long at all. Unless your first flight is late, you'll still have time for the lounge.

Is the BE line separate from the Sky Priority line? If it is then that makes sense.

I have never gone BE but I am a platinum medallion and always use the sky priority line. Last time we went through, they were so overwhelmed they were just splitting everyone up between the two lines and even had people go downstairs to that line as well . . .


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 13):
Is the BE line separate from the Sky Priority line? If it is then that makes sense.

What does BE stand for?

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 10):
Me too, never in BE but always in Y+ so not a huge difference. Maybe I'm just unlucky or have been in NRT on days when they are understaffed...

I did hear from a friend that says Narita has a certain time which Terminal 2's international arrivals area is overcrowded because of rush hour.



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User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4440 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):

What does BE stand for?

BusinessElite.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 13):
Is the BE line separate from the Sky Priority line? If it is then that makes sense.
Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 15):
BusinessElite.

I don't recall any separate lines, all I know is that they obviously deplane first and get to the front of the line first.

Except for last year, when I was on DL275 (744) I was towards the front in Y+ and for some reason I was the very first off the plane and through customs without any issues. Most of the time spent was walking all the way to the customs line from our gate.



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User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1105 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4207 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 13):
Is the BE line separate from the Sky Priority line? If it is then that makes sense.
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
I don't recall any separate lines, all I know is that they obviously deplane first and get to the front of the line first.

I have flown into NRT several times, usually on CO/UA anf TG. In clearing security for a connecting international flight, there are two lines. One for First/Business class, and another for the rest of us. The First/Business will not remain empty though and will be used for we peons when necessary.


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
Yes you clear NRT security. I am not sure how you got such a negative opinion for it. It has never taken me more than ten minutes.

This past June I flew UA ORD-NRT-TPE and security took less than 5 minuted. Mind you UA had 747 from ORD and based on how many people took japanese customs forms I would say that half transfer to other flights.
The flight arrived after 3 PM and everything was very efficient as well as everyone at NRT spoke excellent English.
Our flight to TPE arrived late from SFO, but they still managed to have us leave on time.
I wish all United staff in US was as courteous and efficient as their Japanese employees.


User currently offlinexjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2462 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

Of the two dozen or so times I have flown through NRT, whether it was intra-asia into NRT or US into NRT, I can only recall there being more than a 30 min wait once and our DTW-NRT flight was super late which put us as the last 744 into NRT with the majority of the US-NRT bank having already arrived and going through customs. Both security areas were filled to the brim and it was probably no more than 35 mins to get probably 800 or so people through both checkpoints.

More times than I can remember, there was only three or four people in front of me at security.



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