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UA: HKG-SFO VS HKG-EWR VS HKG-ORD

United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

I bet:

1) HKG-ORD

2) HKG-SFO

3) HKG-EWR

My 2 cents

Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

20 replies: All unread, jump to last

CALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3662 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

it certainly isn't EWR, as the 744 seats more than 100 pax more than the CO 772

okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.

mogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

somewhat unlikely ... those 744s would struggle on EWR-HKG ... if UA really needs more capacity on that route (and be competitive with CX), making it 10x or 14x weekly 772 is more likely

I wonder if UA would do something bold by using the 787 to launch IAD-HKG or re-open LAX-HKG

AVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.

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mogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):
I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.

True, the large viet community in IAH could definitely benefit from 1 stop IAH-HKG-SGN service (although I'd definitely pick ANA over UA if the price is not ridiculously out of range)

drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):

Doubtful...there is more demand from PVG or PEK from IAH.

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AVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 5):

I wonder when UA will open PEK or PVG out of IAH though.

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United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5946 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 5):
Doubtful...there is more demand from PVG or PEK from IAH.

But HKG is a very big/important market

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 2):
somewhat unlikely ... those 744s would struggle on EWR-HKG ... if UA really needs more capacity on that route (and be competitive with CX), making it 10x or 14x weekly 772 is more likely

I wonder if UA would do something bold by using the 787 to launch IAD-HKG or re-open LAX-HKG

So which one is busier? HKG-SFO or HKG-ORD?

LAXdude1023 From Lebanon, joined Sep 2006, 6780 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5789 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):

Not as much. IAH isn't even the largest local market to HKG in Texas.

The real demand for Houston-China service is to either PVG or PEK.

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United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

UA should restart HKG-SEA/LAX etc once they get the B787

gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 10, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):
I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.

With what? They have no planes that can fly that far, and if they can't make LAX work - they sure as hell can't make IAH work.

Why don't you share with us the daily demand IAH to HKG?

NS

[Edited 2012-08-12 22:57:19]

TWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 762 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 6):
I wonder when UA will open PEK or PVG out of IAH though.

Been rumored before. Would be a pleasant surprise nontheless.

[Edited 2012-08-12 23:38:04]

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HKG212 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2008, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

They don't have the range. UA tried flying them on JFK-HKG briefly in 2000 or 2001, with heavy load restrictions. CX only started flying non-stop with the A340-600, also with load restricitons, then switched to the 777-300ER. With the 747-400 they always had to make the stopover in YVR.

jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

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Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

I bet:

1) HKG-ORD

2) HKG-SFO

3) HKG-EWR

My 2 cents

San Francisco is probably the biggest since they use a 744 and California has huge trade with Hong Kong.

mogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
San Francisco is probably the biggest since they use a 744 and California has huge trade with Hong Kong.

They also use daily 744 for ORD. The argument goes both ways - SFO has larger O&D, plus premium LAX passengers preferring LAX-SFO-HKG instead of LAX-NRT-HKG after the downgrade to 738, but ORD has more connectivity.

But I'd venture to guess SFO, since that's the harder one to get award seats.

RDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1063 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

For the last 12 months:

1. SFO-HKG - Most Traffic, base for other comparisons below.

2. ORD-HKG -5%

3. EWR-HKG -27%

Irishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

According to wikipedia

SFO-HKG 901,765 passengers in 2010.
EWR-HKG didn't even make the top 10 list so less than 250,00 passengers per year.
ORD-HKG didn't make the top 10 list either so less than 250,00 per year

joemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting Irishpower (Reply 16):
SFO-HKG 901,765 passengers in 2010.

I think you may have posted the total pax count on the 3 airlines (UA + SQ + CX) on the route, whereas the OP was asking just about the UA component. Otherwise each of UA's daily 744 flights carry 2471 pax!

Irishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1791 times:

Quoting joemac547 (Reply 17):
I think you may have posted the total pax count on the 3 airlines (UA + SQ + CX) on the route, whereas the OP was asking just about the UA component. Otherwise each of UA's daily 744 flights carry 2471 pax!

Ahhhh. Sorry about that. I was think total passengers between them all.

United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Does anyone have the UA only figures please?

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22075 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Very simple -- just dig up DOT stats

2011 UA enplanement totals (round-trip)

HKG-SFO - 237,124
HKG-ORD - 218,302
HKG-EWR - 169,857
HKG-GUM - 22,914

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