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UA: HKG-SFO VS HKG-EWR VS HKG-ORD  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8353 times:

Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

I bet:

1) HKG-ORD

2) HKG-SFO

3) HKG-EWR

My 2 cents

Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8294 times:

it certainly isn't EWR, as the 744 seats more than 100 pax more than the CO 772


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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8280 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

somewhat unlikely ... those 744s would struggle on EWR-HKG ... if UA really needs more capacity on that route (and be competitive with CX), making it 10x or 14x weekly 772 is more likely

I wonder if UA would do something bold by using the 787 to launch IAD-HKG or re-open LAX-HKG


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8268 times:

I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.


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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8220 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):
I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.

True, the large viet community in IAH could definitely benefit from 1 stop IAH-HKG-SGN service (although I'd definitely pick ANA over UA if the price is not ridiculously out of range)


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5163 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8200 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):

Doubtful...there is more demand from PVG or PEK from IAH.



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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8166 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 5):

I wonder when UA will open PEK or PVG out of IAH though.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8152 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 5):
Doubtful...there is more demand from PVG or PEK from IAH.

But HKG is a very big/important market

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 2):
somewhat unlikely ... those 744s would struggle on EWR-HKG ... if UA really needs more capacity on that route (and be competitive with CX), making it 10x or 14x weekly 772 is more likely

I wonder if UA would do something bold by using the 787 to launch IAD-HKG or re-open LAX-HKG

So which one is busier? HKG-SFO or HKG-ORD?


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7514 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7995 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):

Not as much. IAH isn't even the largest local market to HKG in Texas.

The real demand for Houston-China service is to either PVG or PEK.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7973 times:

UA should restart HKG-SEA/LAX etc once they get the B787

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7712 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 3):
I hope UA opens IAH-HKG. I think the demand is here in houston.

With what? They have no planes that can fly that far, and if they can't make LAX work - they sure as hell can't make IAH work.

Why don't you share with us the daily demand IAH to HKG?

NS

[Edited 2012-08-12 22:57:19]

User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1779 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7569 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 6):
I wonder when UA will open PEK or PVG out of IAH though.

Been rumored before. Would be a pleasant surprise nontheless.

[Edited 2012-08-12 23:38:04]


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User currently offlineHKG212 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2008, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will HKG-EWR go B 747-400?

They don't have the range. UA tried flying them on JFK-HKG briefly in 2000 or 2001, with heavy load restrictions. CX only started flying non-stop with the A340-600, also with load restricitons, then switched to the 777-300ER. With the 747-400 they always had to make the stopover in YVR.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6787 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

I bet:

1) HKG-ORD

2) HKG-SFO

3) HKG-EWR

My 2 cents

San Francisco is probably the biggest since they use a 744 and California has huge trade with Hong Kong.


User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5859 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
San Francisco is probably the biggest since they use a 744 and California has huge trade with Hong Kong.

They also use daily 744 for ORD. The argument goes both ways - SFO has larger O&D, plus premium LAX passengers preferring LAX-SFO-HKG instead of LAX-NRT-HKG after the downgrade to 738, but ORD has more connectivity.

But I'd venture to guess SFO, since that's the harder one to get award seats.


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1621 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which is the busiest out of all 3? I mean in terms of total number of passengers. Does anyone have the figures?

For the last 12 months:

1. SFO-HKG - Most Traffic, base for other comparisons below.

2. ORD-HKG -5%

3. EWR-HKG -27%


User currently offlineIrishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

According to wikipedia

SFO-HKG 901,765 passengers in 2010.
EWR-HKG didn't even make the top 10 list so less than 250,00 passengers per year.
ORD-HKG didn't make the top 10 list either so less than 250,00 per year


User currently offlinejoemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4440 times:
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Quoting Irishpower (Reply 16):
SFO-HKG 901,765 passengers in 2010.

I think you may have posted the total pax count on the 3 airlines (UA + SQ + CX) on the route, whereas the OP was asking just about the UA component. Otherwise each of UA's daily 744 flights carry 2471 pax!


User currently offlineIrishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

Quoting joemac547 (Reply 17):
I think you may have posted the total pax count on the 3 airlines (UA + SQ + CX) on the route, whereas the OP was asking just about the UA component. Otherwise each of UA's daily 744 flights carry 2471 pax!

Ahhhh. Sorry about that. I was think total passengers between them all.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Does anyone have the UA only figures please?

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24905 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

Very simple -- just dig up DOT stats

2011 UA enplanement totals (round-trip)

HKG-SFO - 237,124
HKG-ORD - 218,302
HKG-EWR - 169,857
HKG-GUM - 22,914



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