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Is EWR A New York Airport?  
User currently offlineBananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 5516 times:

Saw this on another thread....( Your 5 Favourites (by SRQKEF Jul 23 2012 in Aviation Polls) )

Quoting Rwy04LGA (Reply 44):
My 2 peeves....that EWR is a NYC airport(it's NOT)...

I'm aware that many of the cities / boroughs / counties in the area have very strong identities and people are very proud, even patriotic to be from a certain locale.

Is this the real reason why many don't, or simply won't consider EWR to be a New York airport? IATA's city code "NYC" specifically includes EWR with JFK and LGA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...airports_in_the_New_York_City_area

I appreciate that it isn't in New York city or even state, but I don't really buy that as a reason given that:

LGW is not within the boundaries of Greater London
CDG is not within the boundaries of Paris (as far as I can tell - please correct me if I'm wrong)
YYZ is not within the boundaries of Toronto (again, please correct me if I'm wrong)

EWR is closer to New York City than any of the above three examples but yet the opinion above persists.

Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this conflict of opinion?

Mark


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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

In some ways you answered your own question with these two bits:

1) opinion - people form beliefs from a variety of sources, facts are not required

2) states - pick any two neighboring states and people near the boundaries will tell you stories about folks from the other state. This is long established and traces roots back to the founding of the country (and before).

As one who lives in NYC (Manhattan) I consider EWR to be a NYC-area airport, just as I feel about IAD being a Washington, DC area airport (DCA is not in DC either). This is, of course, my opinion. I still don't fly to/from EWR (or JFK) all that often as it is easier to get to LGA from where I live (uptown), I don't mind connecting flights, and prices are often similar.

One last thing - when Fiorello LaGuardia was mayor of NYC he famously refused to leave a plane on arrival at EWR as he paid for a ticket to New York City and wanted to be flown to NYC. At the time Floyd Bennett field did not have commercial service.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

I fly into the New York City area 3-4 times a month and most certainly consider EWR to be a New York City airport. Using mass transit, it takes me as long to get to Midtown from EWR as it does JFK or LGA.

It's not convenient for people out on Long Island, but JFK isn't convenient at all for my family out in New Jersey.


User currently offlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5463 times:

We have had numerous debates on this in the civav forum...

Yes it is considered by most.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5460 times:

For all intents and purposes, yes.


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User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 963 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

Do the people who consider EWR not a New York City airport also consider that CVG is not a Cincinnati airport? CVG is certainly not in Cincinnati. It's not even in Ohio. It's across the river in Kentucky. To be consistent, anyone who does not consider EWR a New York City airport must not consider CVG to be a Cincinnati airport. It's only fair.

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK. So, the answer to the question is, yes, Newark is a New York Airport.

Soren   



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5387 times:

If the FAA considers EWR a NYC airport, then that's what we should go by.


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User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

It seems most would consider EWR to be a NYC airport.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK.

Why do you think this?


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21528 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

Yes, EWR is a New York City airport, but:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
Newark is more New York than LGA or JFK.


You've got some explaining to do on that one.

-Mir



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
You've got some explaining to do on that one.

At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

But now that they are planning that Central Park airport, things might change.

Soren   



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

I most certainly would consider EWR a New York City Airport.

User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 10):
At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

Depends on where you are in Manhattan. It's a long skinny island. I live and work north of Central Park and that puts LGA notably closer than EWR.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21528 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 10):
At least from Manhattan, EWR is the most convenient and closest airport, by far. This is my opinion at least.

I live on the West Side of Manhattan, and I can get to LGA in 20 minutes. It's at least 30 to EWR.

-Mir



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User currently offlineAirAfreak From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 697 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5050 times:
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Technically, Newark is a New Jersey Airport because it sits in the State of New Jersey.

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

Two answers - WTF wants to go to Newark, except to land at that airport and go straight to NY by the quickest method?

Second - the airport is operated by the PANYNJ , as is JFK and LGA which makes it a NY airport, as well as a NJ airport of course.



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User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

Argue all you want, EWR is not and will not ever be a NYC airport. It's a NYC 'area' airport. It serves NYC, but it's not actually in NYC. Yes, S.I. is closer to EWR than either LGA or JFK, but who wants to be from there, anyway? An airport in Central Park? It'll never happen. As to LHR and LGW (&LCY), The L in each of those names means LONDON. However, when non-reving, EWR is close enough to NYC to be a viable option to get home(and taking a shower ASAP). Which reminds me, they should use EWW instead of EWR.   


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