rsrik From India, joined Oct 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
Hi All
I am flying DL in Jan from BOM - ATL. This flight involves a stop and a Plane change in AMS. So, effectively it is BOM - AMS - ATL. Regardless of the plane change, the flight number remains the same throughout - DL 603.
On the DL website, while choosing seats, DL is making me choose twice, from BOM - AMS and AMS - ATL. I found this rather strange. If the flight number is the same, DL should not be allowing me to choose two different seats, I'd assume. I would expect to receive a single boarding pass for the flight through to ATL.
asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2457 times:
Even if it's the same flight number you will get two boarding passes, even if the seat assignment is the same, plus a notification card about the fact that you will have to change plane somewhere along the line. The second boarding pass will say THROUGH PASSENGER or something to that effect on the bottom, I never pay too much attention to them at work. Besides, if the flight changes equipment types you would need to select seats on each segment as the same seat may not even exist on both segments.
rsrik From India, joined Oct 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2429 times:
Quoting asqx (Reply 1): Even if it's the same flight number you will get two boarding passes
Hi, Thanks for this insight. I have not traveled in a flight that requires a plane change, but, with the same flight number. I did not know that there are 2 boarding passes involved.
So, I might as well change seats from one leg to another. Even though MUM - AMS and AMS - ATL are both on A333, I guess I will try the view from 1A on one leg and 1K on the other .
rsrik From India, joined Oct 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
Quoting Coal (Reply 3): You sort of answered your own question, didn't you?
Hi - I agree, it certainly looks that way. But, I was of the opinion that this sort of picking two seats is not possible since the Flight number is the same. And, until asqx explained to me, I did not realize there will be 2 boarding passes.
You know what's interesting - last night, I had sent a mail to Delta, asking whether it is really OK to choose different seats on this flight. They replied this morning saying 'No'.
asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2385 times:
Trust me, as a Delta gate agent you CAN have different seats on a through flight and it doesn't even have to be a plane swap. As long as the plane lands and people get off and on you can have different seats on different legs. In fact, often times it happens simply because someone has already booked a ticket on the second portion and the same seat isn't available on both legs. Also, on thru flights sometimes the only seats left that are the same on both legs are middle seats where as if the seats are split between legs often times at least one if not both segments can be switched to something more desirable.
If you want the same seat on both legs, ok fine. But if you want different seats, especially with a plane swap, go for it. No one at the airport or on the plane is going to hassle you for it and the computer's not going to change you back (baring an equipment change or any disability seating issues).
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
Quoting rsrik (Thread starter): On the DL website, while choosing seats, DL is making me choose twice,
That's really interesting, my girlfriend is flying on DL16 from Sydney to Atlanta (via LAX) and when choosing seats there is only one map, SYD-ATL (it's almost as if the stop in LAX doesn't exist).
I wonder what the reason for this discrepancy is? I always thought it made more sense to have to maps to better accomodate SYD-LAX and LAX-ATL passengers around the continuing passengers.
asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2305 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 6): That's really interesting, my girlfriend is flying on DL16 from Sydney to Atlanta (via LAX) and when choosing seats there is only one map, SYD-ATL (it's almost as if the stop in LAX doesn't exist).
I wonder what the reason for this discrepancy is? I always thought it made more sense to have to maps to better accomodate SYD-LAX and LAX-ATL passengers around the continuing passengers
Because the BOM-AMS-ATL is published as a scheduled aircraft change in AMS where as SYD-ATL is scheduled as the same plane (even though all passengers disembark in LAX and clear US Immigration and Customs).
Seats can be assigned differently for each segment, however since it's sold as a through flight without an aircraft change only an agent will have the ability to look at the seat map for each segment and then assign the seats seperately.
rsrik From India, joined Oct 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2295 times:
Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 7): I think it will be the A332 if not the 767.
Hi, This is what the Itinerary says, in 2 places.
1. In the general itinerary summary, when I click the "DL 603" hyperlink, a small panel pops open with miscellaneous flight information, which says the plane is A330-300.
2. While choosing seats, the seat map loaded is that of A330-300.
So, I guess it will be an A333.
I will take an A332 as well, I don't mind
But, I really hope it will not be the 767, as I am not very sure about the seats and the PTV on those, and how they compare to A33x.
aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Reply 11, posted (7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2171 times:
Quoting asqx (Reply 1): Besides, if the flight changes equipment types you would need to select seats on each segment as the same seat may not even exist on both segments.
How's this for a crazy example?
That's UA 51 FRA-EWR-CLE with a change from a 772 to a 735 in EWR. FRA-EWR is sold as LH 7603, EWR-CLE is sold as LH 7804.
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RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2155 times:
For some reason those sorts of routes are really common in the USA where a domestic flight is tagged onto an international flight even though they have no apparent relationship. I don't know why they don't just call a spade a spade and use two different flight numbers.
asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2140 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 10): That makes sense now. Do you know if DL still issue two boarding passes even though it is a "same plane" service?
As long as the seat is the same probably not and the boarding pass will say SYD-ATL. At least that's how it works for domestic flights. It has been such a long time since I had an international through flight that wasn't a plane change that I can't remember for certain if that holds true for international.
Vasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3761 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1822 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 12): For some reason those sorts of routes are really common in the USA where a domestic flight is tagged onto an international flight even though they have no apparent relationship
NWADTWE16 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 242 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
THRU FLIGHTS are for marketing..they allow airlines to show 'DIRECT' which doesnt mean NONSTOP service between two city pairs. An example would be DTWMNL used to be NW71. It appears to be nonstop but its actually DTW-NGO-MNL all NW71 and at the time it was and still as Delta is a 744 all the way. Anytime a flight is Direct and not Nonstop a plane change is possible and in my experience likely LOL. I advise passengers to expect it just so they dont become complacent. If the airline is aware of aircraft change ahead of time and/or the continued flight (last leg) is a different scheduled aircraft type you could have two seats for obvious reasons (seat config).
reifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1135 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
There are two reasons for this. The first one, is that some airlines run out of flight numbers, but this is not exactly true.
The second one is indeed a marketing thing. In GDS these flight will appear higher than "connecting" flights, as officially these are direct flights ("real" direct flights make just a short hop somewhere, and part of passengers get off/on, others remain on board, and there you go).
Rest has been said above. De facto it's just a regular connecting flight you've booked, and you will be treated as such (two boarding passes etc).
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