justloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 963 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
Does anyone know if United has an upgrade plan for the Narita Lounge?
In a word, it is unacceptable. I have a friend in Narita, right now, sitting in the lounge which he says looks like a refugee camp for businessmen. People are sitting on the floor, and even when the lounge isn't full, the internet is slow to useless, the later being * frequent *
I am sure United thinks this is a good thing, to have that much traffic growth, but people are seriously complaining about this and with good reason. You are a businessman with precious time with a 3 hour layover and no useful internet?
Think about what that means. This is not good long term for UA PRASM. We are talking a couple extra hundred dollars a month overtime. We have heard all the excuses from UA, that it's the Narita pipe and everyone is in the same boat.
Well, slow pipe or not, they need to fix this, bring their own pipe get a satcom plan for peak times, or put in a dedicated 802.16 broadband wireless point to point link which can go miles. Lots of solutions out there.
The decline in the UA user experience is just bad for its user-base and unhealthy for the airline.
I am putting this hear because people in UA need to hear this. I file a complaint of course. It's been six months. No Internet and now, no seats. The could send people to the NH, SG or other * lounge for the overflow. They have all sorts of options and no one seems to be paying attention to a serious customer functionality issue that undercuts the whole purpose of flying UA for business.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4059 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
It's not excusing poor service, but if you are *G and flying out on a Star airline then you can use ANY lounge, anywhere in the world. If the UA Club isn't up to standard, then you can always find another.
hhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
The ANA lounge didn't have rum as of about 1.5 years ago. The UA lounge was crowded in the premerger days, but they barely had enough seats for everyone then. UA needs to make the first lounge part of the biz lounge and make a decent first lounge. The first lounge was the exact same as the biz lounge the last time I was there, except less crowded and more food options. The food options were nowhere near the quality of what I have had in the first lounges in SFO, LAX, and HKG.
Yes it was. To be sure, the internet was much better. I could do work there. It is good for UA that their new route system is working to fill up the lounge, but with constant reminders on the safety video that UA is investing half a billion dollars in their onboard product, something so small like usable internet access in the lounge would seem a forgone thing. It just doesn't make sense. It's the lounge equivalent of a rude FA, but worse is it wastes valuable time.
They need to get some more space too. Alternate lounges are a solution, but why do I want to go at the other end of the terminal for ANA? The UA lounge is right by security, right by it's gates and inconvenient to move around. I want UA to succeed I am from Houston, but if everyone has to go to the ANA lounge all the time, eventually, they'll fly ANA.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 23474 posts, RR: 50 Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
The Narita lounge is relatively recent remodeled. Matter of fact it had to be fixed up again following the earthquake last year again.
Its also one of the largest lounges in the company - two floors of ramp view seating almost 300 (297 to be exact) plus another three dozen chairs in the bar and entry areas.
With limited space, and very high rents, its frankly amazing UA managed to keep such a large facility at NRT. Even ANA as home carrier only manages two smaller lounges. Also keep in mind the lounge is absolutely dead virtually all day long except for the evening rush. I cant see the value in getting an even larger facility that is primarily only utilized a few hours a day.
So for me personally the lounge is actually pretty good - the showers are a god send in the middle of long journeys.
Also regarding internet - there are two different SSIDs available. As I recall one is designated for the 4th floor and one for the 5th. The 5th floor tends to be better as that is where the First Class lounge within a lounge is located and there are less users of that Wi-Fi.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4059 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Quoting justloveplanes (Reply 4): It's the lounge equivalent of a rude FA, but worse is it wastes valuable time.
Oh, I agree. Last year I was in the QF F lounge in LAX (shared with BA and CX) and the WiFi was quite possibly the slowest I've ever used! It was appalling. It's interesting that despite being fairly well appointed, relatively ok food selection etc, it is the internet that I remember, and that is why I think it was a dreadful lounge.
Definitely, I'm 100% in their corner. As LAXintl said, though, it probably isn't worth them expanding. Buying bigger band-width, however, sounds like a definite must.
The other thing that UA need to do is improve their catering and beverage options in their lounges. While cheese-cubes and a $7 bottle of "house" wine might cut it domestically compared to SkyClub or AAdmirals Club, it really doesn't stack up world wide if they want to be a global premier carrier IMHO.
aklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 821 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 6): Oh, I agree. Last year I was in the QF F lounge in LAX (shared with BA and CX) and the WiFi was quite possibly the slowest I've ever used! It was appalling. It's interesting that despite being fairly well appointed, relatively ok food selection etc, it is the internet that I remember, and that is why I think it was a dreadful lounge.
This is the lounge in the TBIT building at LAX? If so, everything changes next year when the new building opens. LAX is also getting a new wifi service provider soon.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4059 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Quoting aklrno (Reply 7): This is the lounge in the TBIT building at LAX?
Yep, QF have said something about their new lounge having the same design/interior as the SYD/MEL lounges (it is, after all, their flagship route) so that should be really great. And it's good news about the WiFi.
I know it sounds picky complaining about it, but I had just flown in from SFO which has free public WiFi, which I could connect to with no problems. To then end up in an F lounge with WiFi that was so slow as to useless was a bit of a shock!