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Nonrev To HKG - Suggestions?  
User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Hello all-

I'm just looking for a general idea regarding nonrev travel from the Washington DC area to HKG - does anyone know of any particular time of year where loads decline a bit or is it steady year-round? Any particular airlines? I am a BA employee but our flights on LHR-HKG seem to be packed to the gills year round.

Thanks for any help

JB


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26026 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

One recommendation - avoid Chinese lunar new year. Also keep an eye on other Asian holidays like Golden Week in Japan which can fill up flights in the region.


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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5906 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting jetblast (Thread starter):
I am a BA employee but our flights on LHR-HKG seem to be packed to the gills year round.

  

I would actually recommend not going via any major European city, but LHR-HKG can be pretty much relied on to be full.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
One recommendation - avoid Chinese lunar new year.

Definitely, and not just New Year itself, but also a month either side. Basically flights are full from about Christmas through to the end of February.

Last year my mother had to go to HKG in late January, booking six weeks out she could only get J!


Off the top of my head the best time might actually be the middle of summer, believe it or not. Otherwise September-November. If you go in spring, bear in mind that if connecting that NRT that loads could be pretty high. It is the "flower festival" season in Japan (or whatever the actual term is), it is basically the Asian equivalent of Fall in Vermont.



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5906 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

This is what I've picked up from United about HKG currently:


UA869: 17 cleared friday (6 open seats remaining), 6 cleared so far today, 19 weightlisted (23 open seats remaining - so it looks like they will all clear + 4 empty)
UA895: 12 cleared friday (19 open seats remaining), 28 cleared today (21 open seats remaining)

In comparison 3 people were weightlisted ex EWR on friday (7 open), and 2 today (12 open).

In light of this, it would appear that weightlists are shorter ex-EWR. This might be that this flight routinely sells and therefore people don't bother weighlisting, or it could be that there is simply less staff demand. If it is the latter then it might be a good one to go for. After all, I'm assuming that you will be at the bottom of the list so if 26 people list for 24 seats out of SFO you're stuck. Also, you could drive to EWR meaning that there is less chance of being stuck if the connection you were planning on getting to - say - SFO is sold.



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

I have heard the easiest way to get to HKG is on CX's ORD and JFK flights.

User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3957 times:

I appreciate the help so far, many thanks.


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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3957 times:

May is a good time. I would suggest trying DL. They normally have low loads that time of year. I ravel with 1966 seniority so it's not a problem, but stay on Kowloon it is much less expensive then anywhere else. There are some affordable hotels there, as well as great shopping. There is a great Chinese Department store on Nathan Road. They have a clearance department that will amaze you. Also. there arefsome great tailors that can do a suit in four of five days.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Definitely, and not just New Year itself, but also a month either side. Basically flights are full from about Christmas through to the end of February.

Best bet is to avoid wintertime altogether. Connecting in Japan from a few weeks before the Emperor's B-day and all of those subsequent holidays is probably going to hamper non-revving chances.

Also if you're going in the summer, watch out for the dragon festivals in China, and Obon in Japan.



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User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2113 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 6):
There is a great Chinese Department store on Nathan Road. They have a clearance department that will amaze you.

I assume you mean Sogo? Nothing is as cheap as in the US (for good stuff).

Quoting FI642 (Reply 6):
They have a clearance department that will amaze you. Also. there arefsome great tailors that can do a suit in four of five days.

A really good suit takes 4-6 weeks to make in HK or Singapore. A "bespoke" suit made in a rush can be done in 8hrs, but you get what you pay for (and... what you wait for    ).

Quoting jetblast (Thread starter):
Thanks for any help

Is flying via China an option? You'd need a transit visa for, say, PVG, but the loads in F to China are quite low. I have non-revved on AA PVG-LAX-PVG and PVG-ORD-PVG and always got F.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 8):
I assume you mean Sogo? Nothing is as cheap as in the US (for good stuff).

He probably means Yue Hwa. Sogo is Japanese. I found some really good deals on Jade in my last visit to Yue Hwa.

Quoting Coal (Reply 8):
A really good suit takes 4-6 weeks to make in HK or Singapore. A "bespoke" suit made in a rush can be done in 8hrs, but you get what you pay for (and... what you wait for ).

HK bespoke suits were a good deal in the 80's and 90's but now the prices are so high its not really worth it. Please is you are not a slim Asian build they tend to do crappy job on the chest, butt and thigh areas.

Quoting Coal (Reply 8):
Is flying via China an option? You'd need a transit visa for, say, PVG, but the loads in F to China are quite low. I have non-revved on AA PVG-LAX-PVG and PVG-ORD-PVG and always got F.

I still say CX is OP's best bet. CX flies to JFK 4x daily so the OP would probably be able to get on one of the four flights. Try to avoid flying via a 3rd country, as getting stuck sucks especially if it is a in country your carrier does not serve. Also avoid the UA EWR flight as it is usually weight restricted so the loads can be misleading.


User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

My friend Byron says the transfer from VHHH into HKG is 125 HKD. Not too bad. He was there yesterday.


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