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How Early Would You Fly?  
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Hi all,

A friend of mine in Seattle sent me some flight options for award flights we're taking together next month on UA, and I was a bit surprised at how early some of the flights departed:

SEA-SFO: UA1426 5:39am
PDX-SFO: UA728 6:00am

SEA-DEN: UA580 5:34am
PDX-DEN: UA1722 5:38am

I'm sorry, but that's just too early to get out of the house, to the airport, checked-in, boarded, and into the air.

Assuming you live an hour or less to the nearest airport, what's the earliest that you would schedule to fly out? I'm not a morning person — I'd prefer nothing before 8am, but would take 7am in a pinch for a great price.

You?


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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8763 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Whatever the company books, really... and that has included a 3am departure from DEL, recommended (and needed) arrival at the airport: midnight.   

Privately, I avoid anything before 9 in the morning, not that I get to fly nearly as much as I'd like to.



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

I takt the 6am flights from LGA all the time. Easy, affordable, and rarely full. Plus usually get f/c upgrades.

Also a full day to cover in the event of a delay or cxl flight.

Here's an example:

When I go to DEN I can leave LGA at 6am and be skiing by noon.



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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6211 times:
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I used to hate them but the 6 AM flights are my new favorite. I've taken them from BDL, SWF, MSP, and LGA. LGA being about an hour and a half from my home. The drive isn't the most fun but I like the fact that I had a jump start on my day. I for the most part can get to my destination before noon and have the whole rest of the day to do other stuff. My last 6 AM flight was in April for Spring Break. Flew from LGA-MSP-GFK and sped back down to MSP just in time to see my Fighting Sioux hockey team win the WCHA trophy! If it wasn't for my bags I would have spent the afternoon in the terminal waiting for my buddies to come down and get me!
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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Another benefit to the first flight of the day is that it's very rarely delayed - there's no ripple effect from upstream delays (late inbound aircraft, connecting pax or crew). In the summer, it's also typically the smoothest time to fly, before the sun heats the earth and creates thunderstorm activity.


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7276 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

It really depends. If a morning flight is much cheaper than I see no problems with it. Also if I am only spending a few days in a destination the earlier the better. When I used to take Weekends in MIA when I was living in D.C. it would be evening departure Thursday Night and to get an extra full day the earliest flight out Monday morning. It is nice to get into a place earlier and have a full day ahead. Also when traveling to the west coast the earlier the better. At the same time I would rather take a red eye back to the east than an early morning departure to the East to just get back in the afternoon.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7959 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

I had an issue flying early, but it's most likely about me having a slight sleeping disorder...

I never schedule a flight before 7:45. If I can't wake up and get to the airport an hour before my flight, I'll have a problem.

I typically have to fly about 10 AM so I can grab breakfast. It all depends on how much mercy DL has on my routing back to CVG   



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User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

It doesn't bother me as long as I get at least 6 or preferably 7 hours of sleep the night before.

When I commute to HK every other weekend, I tend to take a late afternoon departure, but depending on price, I might take a 6:30am UA flight (SIN-HKG). This usually means I have to get up at 4:30am.

Once I had to go to SGN for a weekend from HKG and I wanted to book with *A miles, so my only option on the return was a 5:30am flight.

When traveling to JNB I always flew SQ non-stop and the flight leaves at 2:15am. Luckily I always flew J on this route so I could sleep, though the Indian Ocean usually gets quite turbulent.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlinemal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Work means I have to fly at 6am, so its a 3.30 wake up ,leave the house by 4.15 airport by 5.00 . Leaving time for anything that could go wrong then its straight to the QF lounge for a cuppa and something to eat .
when I fly for myself its always mid mornings, off to Melbourne tomorrow and the first flight for the day is a respectable 11.30am

mal787



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Depends on the destination and purpose really.

If I'm travelling domestic, a 6am departure would mean little sleep and a long day after I arrive. However, I don't avoid those flights if the price is right. It isn't really a problem getting up and too the airport, and early mornings mean no traffic as well.

If I'm travelling internationally home to Norway from Australia, I don't mind any flight-time. Jetlag and time difference is going to make the lack of sleep unproblematic, and actually the lack of sleep could help me sleep on the plane.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

I have been known to board a flight departing PER 02:05 but that means not going to bed before hand. I have also departed on international flights at 06:00. If on a stay in Dubai my preferred return flight to PER used to depart at 02:55. Now I could get a 21:45 departure that arrives in PER at lunch time, or a 10:45 departure that arrives at 01:20. Not too keen on that one. I just like arriving home in daylight.

User currently offlinechootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Hi!!!!!

Since I work in rotating shifts--early, late, night...... my sleep schedule is totally blown to hell.

I always try to get an afternoon or evening flight. The heck with the cost, I need to have the sleep. I would even go a day or two later in that is the only alternative for a late flight.

Unfortunately, here in europe, lots of flights have shifted to early departures due to night curfews....        



chootie
User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Pretty much any time when it is for work travel...I will often take an early am or red eye when leaving home to maximise the home time. When heading home from work, I can choose any of three daily flights...all which leave between 6:00 and 7:00 am   so not much choice anyway!
For personal travel, I will usually choose a flight around 8 or 9 am just to avoid the morning rush at YYC, especially if travelling to the US (although NEXUS /GOES eliminates most of the immigration pain even for the 6-7 am bank of flights). The extra hour sleep does make for a better start to a vacation.



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6164 times:

Easy rule: 11am .
Anything after 0900h might be acceptable if no alternatives are available, but it is not preferred.

I no longer travel for business, but even back then I was known to say "no" to itineraries that would include flights departing out of my homebase between 6 am and 7 am. If they really wanted my expertise at some place they had to come up with a (flight) schedule that would not require me to leave home (not the airport) not before 7 am.
-HT



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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3359 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

Flying from East to West anything after 11:30am is fine for me, returning usually look for a 7pm departure.  


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6134 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
SEA-SFO: UA1426 5:39am
PDX-SFO: UA728 6:00am

SEA-DEN: UA580 5:34am
PDX-DEN: UA1722 5:38am

I love flights like these, before sunrise! Watching the sunrise during a flight is awesome! I wished there were more flights like these. I guess after 9/11, these were becoming rare.



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User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

I used to have serious substance abuse problems which would keep me up half the night, every night - and sluggish and late the next morning. I use the term "morning" loosely - for years, if I was up and functioning before 10am, and out of the house before 11am, it was a miracle - and a very bad experience. Since I quit everything, even cigarettes, on June 20, 2011, it's a different world. Now I have the clarity and energy levels, I go out of my way to book early flights cos it simply wasn't an option before. Sure, when the alarm goes off at 04h30, I do feel a bit crap for five minutes but a quick shower and grab my bag by the door (packed the night before - clarity!) and I'm walking to the tube and I feel totally normal and alert and rocking. And it's a nice feeling to have the world to yourself as everyone else is still sleeping and in another world.

I took this flight last year:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
SEA-DEN: UA580 5:34am

and connected onwards to a morning DEN-TUL, which connected to a midday TUL-ORD, which connected to an afternoon ORD-YYZ, where I had dinner with friends, and finally the late YYZ-LHR - what a day of travel! With the time zones working against me as I crossed the continent, it was only possible with an early start, which included the following sentiment on the first leg...

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
I love flights like these, before sunrise! Watching the sunrise during a flight is awesome!

But I think there are plenty of those early flights...

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
I wished there were more flights like these. I guess after 9/11, these were becoming rare.

...I would argue the opposite, with economics changing in the 21st century, and especially since fuel prices started to skyrocket, airlines are keener than ever to sweat the assets - the entire European shorthaul fleet is in the air by 7am, and I am sure the same is true in the US. Been through LAS at 5am lately? Heaving with passengers. Check out the US pre-clearance at YYZ at 5am on Monday morning. My god.

Anyway - here's to early flights and productive days.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6027 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
SEA-DEN: UA580 5:34am

and connected onwards to a morning DEN-TUL, which connected to a midday TUL-ORD, which connected to an afternoon ORD-YYZ, where I had dinner with friends, and finally the late YYZ-LHR - what a day of travel!

Did UA really offer a connecting routing like that from SEA to YYZ? And what would make you want to use such a roundabout route with so many possibilities of delays and missed connections?


User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6025 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 17):
Did UA really offer a connecting routing like that from SEA to YYZ?

No, I booked TUL-ORD-YYZ-LHR - that was offered as a single itinerary. YYZ-LHR by AC had a UA flight number on it, which was interesting cos UA could have offered me a simple TUL-ORD-LHR on their own metal, which I think they did, but it was more expensive than TUL-ORD-YYZ-LHR. I preferred the extra stop, obviously, as all of us here would (unless travelling, I suppose, on time-sensitive business, or with a spouse), and AC are much better than UA across the pond.

Seperately, I booked SEA-DEN-TUL cos I didn't need to visit TUL in the end so I enjoyed an extra day in SEA and thereby pieced together an interesting cross-country. I think most of the transits were 1h30+ so I wasn't worried about missing a connection. And if I did, well, another adventure begins!



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5999 times:

I did the 6am EK departure from SYD right at the end of last year, which actually wasn't too bad. I'm not sure how I would have coped with departing at that time and connecting straight through to Europe, but the timings actually worked very well stopping in DXB for a few nights before the second leg. Instead of having to struggle through an entire day after arrival (as with an evening departure ex-SYD), the flight gets in mid-afternoon which means you can go check into the hotel, freshen up then go out for a few hours and dinner before having an early night.

If going at that time of day means saving a decent amount of cash then I'm generally happy to do it.


User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 19):
I did the 6am EK departure from SYD right at the end of last year

Ooh, I did that one too!

Quoting qf002 (Reply 19):
I'm not sure how I would have coped with departing at that time and connecting straight through to Europe

Oh it's fabulous! Get up in Sydney at 4.30am, check in at 5am, takeoff at 6am (see previous comments about dawn breaking in the air, lovely), arr DXB 2.30pm, take off on LHR flight at 4pm, land at LHR at 8pm, home by 10pm, in bed at 11pm. Woke up in Sydney in the morning, in your own bed at a normal bedtime the same day - that is pure magic. And of course you're SUPER tired so you sleep all night through and wake up in the morning with virtually no jetlag. EK call the 6am SYD departure the "same day delivery" flight and it is fabulous.

CX have a flight from SYD to HKG at 7.20am (or around then), and it misconnects with a LHR at HKG by minutes, which is crazy - they could offer the same thing.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineont2cgi From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5972 times:

I really don't mind early morning flights, but then I usually up at 0500. As a couple of posters have said, it's nice to be at destination that much earlier.

User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
I'm not a morning person — I'd prefer nothing before 8am, but would take 7am in a pinch for a great price.

I'm with you on that one.

The earliest flight I will book out of London is 9am, that means getting up after 5.30am which is just about manageable.

Some people sell these ultra early morning flights as giving you a full day at your destination. To me it means getting to my hotel and sleeping all afternoon, in fact wasting the whole first day and putting my normal sleep patterns out for the rest of the trip.

I think the airline world has cottoned on to that preference too as easyjets midday departures are higher priced than early their 6-7am morning departures.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
...I would argue the opposite, with economics changing in the 21st century, and especially since fuel prices started to skyrocket, airlines are keener than ever to sweat the assets - the entire European shorthaul fleet is in the air by 7am

I don't understand your post. You disagree with me, I get that.... Yet you write this....citing fuel prices and the like. Huh?

Sounds like you agree with me. However, I was talking specifically U.S. carriers.



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User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23):
I don't understand your post. You disagree with me, I get that.... Yet you write this....citing fuel prices and the like. Huh?

Your premise was, fuel prices have reduced early morning flying. My argument is, the more expensive fuel is, the more airlines need to look for opportunities to make money. Slimmer margins (due to higher costs) = less profit per flight, which means they need to look for more opportunities to go flying so the overall profit stays the same as when oil was $27/bbl. Hellooo, 0534am departure to DEN!



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
25 reddevl442 : My personal record for earliest departure was 0530, back in 2005. Flew SAT-ATL-MLB. Did that after working until 0130 and not sleeping. Now I live in
26 Post contains images Fiveholer : As a nonrev, as early as I can!
27 srbmod : I don't fly before 9AM even though I get to the airport for a 9:30 or 10AM flight around 7AM (I get there at least 2 and a half hours before my flight
28 Post contains images AirframeAS : I never said anything about fuel prices. I don't know where on earth you got that idea. I said 9/11 and I quote...... Same here!
29 N243NW : Ugh. The 6:25 flight this morning (even with the first class breakfast) was pretty brutal. Collapsed in bed once I got home and immediately took a 4-
30 byronicle6 : I try and fly as early as i can, so as not to waste a day flying (unless its long-haul) However in saying that a trip booked at the last minute for an
31 n729pa : Early flights are great, you often have a bit more room, customs formalities take seconds, no queues the only problem can be finding a place open to g
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