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Airports With "same Name" City Pair Nonstops?  
User currently offlinebnaowb From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7943 times:

ATL has nonstops to 10 "same name" city pairs:

Albany, GA (ABY)
Albany, NY (ALB)

Charleston, SC (CHS)
Charleston, WV (CRW)

Columbia, MO (COU)
Columbia, SC (CAE)

Columbus, GA (CSG)
Columbus, OH (CMH)
Columbus, MS (GTR)

Fayetteville, AR (XNA)
Fayetteville, NC (FAY)

Jacksonville, FL (JAX)
Jacksonville, NC (OAJ)

Manchester, UK (MAN)
Manchester, NH (MHT)

Panama City, Panama (PTY)
Panama City, FL (ECP)

Portland, ME (PWM)
Portland, OR (PDX)

San Jose, Costa Rica (SJO)
San Jose, CA (SJC)

Which other airports have nonstops to multiple examples of these? Could any airport have more than ATL? Are there examples of passenger confusion regarding these?

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User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7917 times:

That non-stop aspect is quite misleading, don't you think?  


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User currently offlinebnaowb From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7900 times:

Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 1):
That non-stop aspect is quite misleading, don't you think?

No. ATL has nonstop service to all of those cities.

To clarify, here is another example:

ORD has nonstops to 6 "same name" city pairs:

Charleston, SC (CHS)
Charleston, WV (CRW)

London, ON (YXU)
London, UK (LHR)

Manchester, UK (MAN)
Manchester, NH (MHT)

Portland, ME (PWM)
Portland, OR (PDX)

Rochester, MN (RST)
Rochester, NY (ROC)

Springfield, IL (SPI)
Springfield, MO (SGF)


User currently offlineairontario From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

YOW:
London, UK LHR
London, ON YXU

YYZ:
London, UK LHR
London, ON YXU


YUL has non-stop service to LHR and direct one stop service to YXU

YYZ has seasonal non-stop service to Sydney, NS (YQY) and year-round direct one stop service to Sydney, NSW (SYD). And if you want to get technical it also has non-stop service to Victoria, BC (YYJ) which is located in Sidney, BC.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7826 times:

Quoting airontario (Reply 3):
YYZ:
London, UK LHR
London, ON YXU

AC also has nonstops from YYZ to:
Portland, OR (PDX) (AC Embraer 190...seasonal service, not currently operating)
Portland, ME (PWM) (Air Georgian Beech 1900D)

Quoting airontario (Reply 3):
YYZ has seasonal non-stop service to Sydney, NS (YQY) and year-round direct one stop service to Sydney, NSW (SYD). And if you want to get technical it also has non-stop service to Victoria, BC (YYJ) which is located in Sidney, BC.

And re YYJ airport being in Sidney, BC, AC also operates YYZ-RIC (Richmond, VA) and YYZ-YVR (Vancouver airport is actually in Richmond, BC).

AC also operates YYZ-YYT (St. John's, NL), YYZ-YSJ (Saint John, NB), and YYZ-ANU (the Caribbean island of Antigua, the capital of which is St. John's). They also serve Fort St.John, BC (YXJ) but from YYZ that requires a connection at YVR.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7822 times:

I have one better. How about AS San Jose, California to San Jose, Mexico. SJC-SJD.

User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5962 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7769 times:
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Quoting bnaowb (Thread starter):
Columbia, MO (COU)

What equipment do they use on that route?



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User currently offlinebnaowb From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7750 times:

Thanks everyone for the responses.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 6):
Quoting bnaowb (Thread starter):
Columbia, MO (COU)
What equipment do they use on that route?

According to the October 2012 OAG guide, it is a CRJ (Express Jet - DL connection).
It appears that this route will be ending on Feb. 13th, 2013:
http://www.komu.com/news/chamber-says-delta-to-drop-columbia-flights/

Here are some other "same name" city pair nonstops:

3 from DFW:
Columbus, GA (CSG)
Columbus, OH (CMH)
San Jose, Costa Rica (SJO)
San Jose, CA (SJC)
Springfield, IL (SPI)
Springfield, MO (SGF)

2 from IAH:
Charleston, SC (CHS)
Charleston, WV (CRW)
San Jose, Costa Rica (SJO)
San Jose, CA (SJC)

3 from MIA:
Barcelona, Spain (BCN)
Barcelona, Venezuela (BLA)
George Town, Bahamas (GGT)
Georgetown, Guyana (GEO)
Santiago, Chile (SCL)
Santiago, Dominican Republic (STI)


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7650 times:

Quoting bnaowb (Thread starter):
ATL has nonstops to 10 "same name" city pairs:

If you relax it from "same" to "similar," the numbers go up even a bit more. For instance, ATL also has service to both CHO and CLT. And YYZ, YUL and YOW all have service to both CLT and YYG.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7649 times:

Quoting bnaowb (Reply 7):
3 from MIA:
Barcelona, Spain (BCN)
Barcelona, Venezuela (BLA)
George Town, Bahamas (GGT)
Georgetown, Guyana (GEO)
Santiago, Chile (SCL)
Santiago, Dominican Republic (STI)

And MIA-Santiago, Cuba (SCU), the 2nd largest city in Cuba, might be a possibility one day if US-Cuba diplomatic issues are ever resolved.


User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7639 times:

MCO has service to:

- Manchester, NH (MHT) on Southwest.
- Manchester, UK (MAN) on Virgin Atlantic.

So does EWR:

- Manchester, NH (MHT) on United Express.
- Manchester, UK (MAN) on United.

And Philly too (PHL):

- Manchester, NH (MHT) on US Airways and US Airways Express.
- Manchester, UK (MAN) on US Airways.

And US Airways also had a short lived service (around 2009/2010?) to Birmingham, UK (BHX) in addition to their service to Birmingham, AL (BHM).

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7637 times:

Not an exact answer to your question since the spellings are different, but LAX has nonstop service to:

- Monterrey, Mexico.
- Monterey, California.

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7620 times:

Thanks guys.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
If you relax it from "same" to "similar," the numbers go up even a bit more. For instance, ATL also has service to both CHO and CLT. And YYZ, YUL and YOW all have service to both CLT and YYG.

Very true. Using the "similar" standard, DFW could also include Wichita, KS (ICT) and Wichita Falls, TX (SPS).

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
And MIA-Santiago, Cuba (SCU), the 2nd largest city in Cuba, might be a possibility one day if US-Cuba diplomatic issues are ever resolved.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 10):
And US Airways also had a short lived service (around 2009/2010?) to Birmingham, UK (BHX) in addition to their service to Birmingham, AL (BHM).

Interesting. Perhaps UA will begin EWR-BHM in the future to complement their existing EWR-BHX route?

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 11):
Not an exact answer to your question since the spellings are different, but LAX has nonstop service to:

- Monterrey, Mexico.
- Monterey, California.

That certainly counts. No doubt that the spelling is far closer than the actual pronunciation by locals of each city (but perhaps not as different as the local pronunciations of Birmingham, AL and Birmingham, UK).

Here are the 5 "same name" city pair nonstops from CLT:
Charleston, SC (CHS)
Charleston, WV (CRW)
Fayetteville, AR (XNA)
Fayetteville, NC (FAY)
Greenville, NC (PGV)
Greenville, SC (GSP) - disregarding the well-deserved "Spartanburg" portion of that airport's name
Jacksonville, FL (JAX)
Jacksonville, NC (OAJ)
Portland, ME (PWM)
Portland, OR (PDX)


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7602 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 12):
Using the "similar" standard, DFW could also include Wichita, KS (ICT) and Wichita Falls, TX (SPS).

There are a decent number. MAD has service to both SCQ and SCL. Does somebody fly MAD-STI?



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User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7599 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 13):
There are a decent number. MAD has service to both SCQ and SCL. Does somebody fly MAD-STI?

The October 2012 OAG guide does not list a MAD-STI nonstop. However, it does show a once weekly MAD-SCU nonstop on a CU IL9. So from MAD....

Santiago, Chile (IB, LA)
Santiago, Cuba (CU)
Santiago de Compostela, Spain (FR, IB)


User currently offlinenicode From France, joined May 2012, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7543 times:

From CDG, you have :
Santiago de Compostela, (VY)
Santiago, Chile (AF)
and from ORY, Santiago, Cuba (CU)


User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7377 times:

I'm not sure if this counts, but Dallas, TX and Dallas-Fort Worth, TX have similar names but different airports. ATL and HOU have service to both of them (on EV/DL and WN/AA respectively).

User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8740 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7211 times:

I have a good one on this, recently in Germany, a woman lost a court case. She booked a flight through a phone call to a travel agent.

Her destination was Porto, Portugal, she ended up in Bordeaux

The woman is from Saxonia, Dresden or Leipzig and the people have a special accent there which can be mis-leading in such cases

The prononciation was like "Bordo" with a soft P instead of a hard P.

The agent in the booking center asked twice - Bordeaux? she replied yes, yes, Bordo and was issued a ticket to Bordeaux.

Not sure if that qualifies for same name cities, phonetically for people from Saxonia it does.

 



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User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 17):
Her destination was Porto, Portugal, she ended up in Bordeaux

If only the agent or the woman had used the name of the country in addition to the name of the city, the misunderstanding would have been avoided.

I have heard some non-native English speakers pronounce "Dallas" exactly like "Dulles" which could result in a similar problem.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3292 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6996 times:
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The really interesting question would be whether there are there any flights that directly link these "same name" pairs (i.e. a flight from MHT to MAN).

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6979 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 19):
The really interesting question would be whether there are there any flights that directly link these "same name" pairs (i.e. a flight from MHT to MAN).

At one time, a carrier (forget whch one) operated DCA-IAD-somewhere on the west coast, to get around the DCA perimeter rule. They didn´t sell local traffic DCA-IAD but the flight still operated "Washington-Washington" as the first leg.


User currently offlineklm672 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2417 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6949 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 5):
I have one better. How about AS San Jose, California to San Jose, Mexico. SJC-SJD.

This is what I thought the thread would be. This would also be fun to look into!


User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8740 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 18):
If only the agent or the woman had used the name of the country in

I think the agent did. The geographic knowledge of some people is not that great. On the explicit question: Bordeaux, France she might have said "nu" which is saxonian for yes.

Like one famous German soccer player, who intended to transfer to another club, once said.

(Inter) Milan or (Real) Madrid, does not matter, as long as it is Italy.



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User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5958 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6480 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):

Braniff flew DCA-IAD-DFW



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