peh From Australia, joined Nov 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3860 times:
I noticed while using FlightRadar24 tonight that Thai was using an A380 on the Bangkok to Singapore route. I might be mistaken but I think this journey is no more than 2 hours long.
Is the A380 standard equipment for this route and, if so, is this the shortest A380 route?
travelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1381 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3176 times:
Am I correct in my assumption that a lot of these short sectors are either positioning flights (with pax) and/or routes that are tagged before of behind a longer sector?
Also; is the A380 actually economical on these short routes? For example compared to NB's or other WB's like the 767 or A330?
Kiwinlondon From New Zealand, joined Dec 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2336 times:
Quoting airbusa322 (Reply 3):
Cheap run too. Only paid $350 return. What does amaze me about this, is they only go out half full every day.
I don't know where you get that information from. That is nonsense. I have flown SYD-AKL a number of times, both when it was a 777 service and since it has become an A380 service and I have never seen it less than 85% full.
If they can't fill an A380 why have they up graded the MEL-AKL service to an A380 too.
I understand that EK do pretty nicely on the Australia - NZ routes ie) are profitable. I also understand thet they have heallthy cargo loads too.
I believe it would cost more to keep the aircraft on the ground in SYD/MEL/BNE and therefore makes sense to have them operating as a revenue earner.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 15, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 12): Seoul to Tokyo is the shortest one so far.
Actually, it's not. EZE-SCL is shorter.
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cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7713 posts, RR: 55 Reply 16, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
Wrong on both counts -
Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 13): I believe KE's A380 no longer serve Seoul Tokyo anymore.
The shortest one should be CZ's domestic flight between Guangzhou and Shanghai (PVG) (649 nm)
I'm flying KE NRT-ICN on the A380 in a few hours. And CZ no longer op the A380 domestic, only longhaul nowadays.
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qf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2558 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
Quoting Kiwinlondon (Reply 14): If they can't fill an A380 why have they up graded the MEL-AKL service to an A380 too.
Because they upgauged the DXB-MEL nonstop (a flight which can definitely support the extra capacity) to an A380, and MEL-AKL is just a continuation of this longer flight.
I've got no idea what EK's loads are across the Tasman (and have heard conflicting reports like these before), but I will point out that Emirates has long been accused of dumping capacity into the Tasman market by other airlines. The price of their fares would support the argument that they suffer from chronic oversupply as well.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18): Who is operating the A380 EZE-SCL? I see nothing in current schedules.
No one. All the recent talk of the 787 got me thinking 787, and LA does operate the 787 on EZE-SCL. Disregard the post . . .
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cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7713 posts, RR: 55 Reply 22, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 17): But for CZ, I am 100% sure that A380 still flying CAN-PEK and CAN-PVG
No no no, they never flew the A380 CAN-PVG, it was PEK-CAN and PEK-HKG. I flew both of these sectors in Oct and searched high and low for a CZ A380 and found nothing. They op PEK-HKG just once a day and it's an A330. PEK-CAN has more frequency but no A380. This was backed up by news reports re CZ redeploying the type off domestic. Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.
Btw my KE A380 NRT-ICN was packed. ICN-CDG, also A380, probably had 200 pax. Then again, who the hell is flying long haul to France (or Korea) in the first week of December? My AZ 777 MXP-NRT had about 90 pax, could have done it with an Embraer 190 if it had the range...!
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davidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 22): No no no, they never flew the A380 CAN-PVG, it was PEK-CAN and PEK-HKG. I flew both of these sectors in Oct and searched high and low for a CZ A380 and found nothing. They op PEK-HKG just once a day and it's an A330. PEK-CAN has more frequency but no A380. This was backed up by news reports re CZ redeploying the type off domestic. Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.
Definitely A380 still operating CAN - PVG and CAN - PEK.
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 22): Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.
PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE LEAVING THE COMMENT!
(Info from CZ's website)
CAN - PVG
CZ3571
Departure:14:45 Bai Yun Airport（CAN）
Arrival:17:00 Pudong Airport（PVG）
Meal:YStop-over:N
Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)
Airport Tax:¥50
Fuel Surcharge:¥130（Adult）
Total Travel Time:2Hours15Minutes
CAN - PEK
CZ3099
Departure:09:00 Bai Yun Airport（CAN）
Arrival:12:10 Beijing Capital International Airport（PEK）
Meal:YStop-over:N
Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)
Airport Tax:¥50
Fuel Surcharge:¥130（Adult）
Total Travel Time:3Hours10Minutes
CZ3999
Departure:15:00 Bai Yun Airport（CAN）
Arrival:18:25 Beijing Capital International Airport（PEK）
Meal:YStop-over:N
Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)
Airport Tax:¥50
Fuel Surcharge:¥130（Adult）
Total Travel Time:3Hours25Minutes
A380 PEK - HKG has been downgraded to A330 and then A320's few months ago.
In addition, due to the shortage of A380 ready gate in CAN (domestic side),
the PVG flight has been assigned to an outerbay EVERTDAY in CAN,
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