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Shortest Regular A380 Route  
User currently offlinepeh From Australia, joined Nov 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6281 times:

I noticed while using FlightRadar24 tonight that Thai was using an A380 on the Bangkok to Singapore route. I might be mistaken but I think this journey is no more than 2 hours long.

Is the A380 standard equipment for this route and, if so, is this the shortest A380 route?


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User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6254 times:

It will be gone soon since TG received their second A380. BKK-HKG stays. 2 1/2 hrs. Both TG and EK fly A380s on BKK-HKG.

User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6227 times:

EK also operates the A380 from Dubai to Jeddah, which is a rather short route.


Future flights: CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineairbusa322 From Australia, joined Apr 2009, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6154 times:

EK's Aussie-NZ flights. I have flown syd-akl in 2.5hrs. Scheduled as 3hrs.

Cheap run too. Only paid $350 return. What does amaze me about this, is they only go out half full every day.


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6139 times:

There's BKK-HKG, blocked at 2.45 hours. Operated by both TG and EK with the A380.

User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2753 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6071 times:

SQ operates SIN-HKG-SIN with the A380 as well, little over 3,5 hours. not as short as the other ones, but still...

Is KE still operating the A380 between ICN-HKG? and China Southern?

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlinepellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2425 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 2):
EK also operates the A380 from Dubai to Jeddah, which is a rather short route.

Should be a 2.5-2.7 hour block. IMO shorter than BKK-HKG with winds if ATC allows.



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User currently offlinetrent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5888 times:

KE ICN/NRT outbound 2 hrs 10 min 783 miles. Inbound 2 hrs 40 min

User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5879 times:

KE still operates HKG-ICN but CZ stopped HKG-PEK already.

User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5597 times:

Am I correct in my assumption that a lot of these short sectors are either positioning flights (with pax) and/or routes that are tagged before of behind a longer sector?

Also; is the A380 actually economical on these short routes? For example compared to NB's or other WB's like the 767 or A330?



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User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5597 times:

Quoting airbusa322 (Reply 3):
Cheap run too. Only paid $350 return. What does amaze me about this, is they only go out half full every day.

Maybe they wouldn't be able to afford to do it on any other aircraft at that price. Half full on a A380 is still rather a lot of passengers.


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5573 times:

Quoting pellegrine (Reply 6):

It's 2H 30 Mins scheduled. It's 1057 miles, so around 2-2H15 hours of flight time.

BKK-HKG is 1049 miles, so a tad shorter actually  



Future flights: CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL-LAX
User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5487 times:

Seoul to Tokyo is the shortest one so far.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dxb-jed...Abkk-hkg%0D%0Asyd-akl&MS=wls&DU=nm


User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5201 times:
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Quoting migair54 (Reply 12):
Seoul to Tokyo is the shortest one so far.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dxb-jed...DU=nm


I believe KE's A380 no longer serve Seoul Tokyo anymore.
The shortest one should be CZ's domestic flight between Guangzhou and Shanghai (PVG) (649 nm)

In addition, it is not for training / reposition / tagged before or behind a longer sector but a regular, scheduled flight.


User currently offlineKiwinlondon From New Zealand, joined Dec 2011, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Quoting airbusa322 (Reply 3):
Cheap run too. Only paid $350 return. What does amaze me about this, is they only go out half full every day.

I don't know where you get that information from. That is nonsense. I have flown SYD-AKL a number of times, both when it was a 777 service and since it has become an A380 service and I have never seen it less than 85% full.

If they can't fill an A380 why have they up graded the MEL-AKL service to an A380 too.

I understand that EK do pretty nicely on the Australia - NZ routes ie) are profitable. I also understand thet they have heallthy cargo loads too.

I believe it would cost more to keep the aircraft on the ground in SYD/MEL/BNE and therefore makes sense to have them operating as a revenue earner.

Kiwinlondon


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22876 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 12):
Seoul to Tokyo is the shortest one so far.

Actually, it's not. EZE-SCL is shorter.



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8088 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

Wrong on both counts -

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 13):
I believe KE's A380 no longer serve Seoul Tokyo anymore.
The shortest one should be CZ's domestic flight between Guangzhou and Shanghai (PVG) (649 nm)

I'm flying KE NRT-ICN on the A380 in a few hours. And CZ no longer op the A380 domestic, only longhaul nowadays.



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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
I'm flying KE NRT-ICN on the A380 in a few hours. And CZ no longer op the A380 domestic, only longhaul nowadays.

oh sorry for the mistake. I thought that NRT-ICN was only for the crew trainning (similar to AF's LHR-CDG)

But for CZ, I am 100% sure that A380 still flying CAN-PEK and CAN-PVG


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 15):
Quoting migair54 (Reply 12):
Seoul to Tokyo is the shortest one so far.

Actually, it's not. EZE-SCL is shorter.

Who is operating the A380 EZE-SCL? I see nothing in current schedules.


User currently onlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4426 times:

Quoting Kiwinlondon (Reply 14):
If they can't fill an A380 why have they up graded the MEL-AKL service to an A380 too.

Because they upgauged the DXB-MEL nonstop (a flight which can definitely support the extra capacity) to an A380, and MEL-AKL is just a continuation of this longer flight.

I've got no idea what EK's loads are across the Tasman (and have heard conflicting reports like these before), but I will point out that Emirates has long been accused of dumping capacity into the Tasman market by other airlines. The price of their fares would support the argument that they suffer from chronic oversupply as well.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22876 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
Who is operating the A380 EZE-SCL? I see nothing in current schedules.

No one. All the recent talk of the 787 got me thinking 787, and LA does operate the 787 on EZE-SCL. Disregard the post . . .



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User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Langon to Toulouse - 226 km (about 3 times per month, and about 3 days)

http://www.igg.fr/spip.php?article111

Of course, it is non-rev, and perhaps not exactly what peh is looking for.



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8088 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4341 times:

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 17):
But for CZ, I am 100% sure that A380 still flying CAN-PEK and CAN-PVG

No no no, they never flew the A380 CAN-PVG, it was PEK-CAN and PEK-HKG. I flew both of these sectors in Oct and searched high and low for a CZ A380 and found nothing. They op PEK-HKG just once a day and it's an A330. PEK-CAN has more frequency but no A380. This was backed up by news reports re CZ redeploying the type off domestic. Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.

Btw my KE A380 NRT-ICN was packed. ICN-CDG, also A380, probably had 200 pax. Then again, who the hell is flying long haul to France (or Korea) in the first week of December? My AZ 777 MXP-NRT had about 90 pax, could have done it with an Embraer 190 if it had the range...!



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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4277 times:
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 22):
No no no, they never flew the A380 CAN-PVG, it was PEK-CAN and PEK-HKG. I flew both of these sectors in Oct and searched high and low for a CZ A380 and found nothing. They op PEK-HKG just once a day and it's an A330. PEK-CAN has more frequency but no A380. This was backed up by news reports re CZ redeploying the type off domestic. Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.

Definitely A380 still operating CAN - PVG and CAN - PEK.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 22):
Feel free to check schedules if you think otherwise.


PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE LEAVING THE COMMENT!

(Info from CZ's website)

CAN - PVG

CZ3571

Departure:14:45 Bai Yun Airport(CAN

Arrival:17:00 Pudong Airport(PVG

Meal:YStop-over:N

Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)

Airport Tax:¥50

Fuel Surcharge:¥130(Adult)

Total Travel Time:2Hours15Minutes

CAN - PEK

CZ3099

Departure:09:00 Bai Yun Airport(CAN

Arrival:12:10 Beijing Capital International Airport(PEK

Meal:YStop-over:N

Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)

Airport Tax:¥50

Fuel Surcharge:¥130(Adult)

Total Travel Time:3Hours10Minutes

CZ3999


Departure:15:00 Bai Yun Airport(CAN

Arrival:18:25 Beijing Capital International Airport(PEK

Meal:YStop-over:N

Aircraft: A380 (Subject to change without notice.)

Airport Tax:¥50

Fuel Surcharge:¥130(Adult)

Total Travel Time:3Hours25Minutes

A380 PEK - HKG has been downgraded to A330 and then A320's few months ago.

In addition, due to the shortage of A380 ready gate in CAN (domestic side),
the PVG flight has been assigned to an outerbay EVERTDAY in CAN,

THX.

[Edited 2012-12-09 09:09:13]

[Edited 2012-12-09 09:12:00]

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