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When Will EK Become The Largest Carrier?  
User currently onlinejustinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 304 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

The Nov. ASK data from CAPA:

UA:3,676,173,972
DL:5,659,984,201
EK:4,217,428,241
AA:4,740,187,417
WN:3,052,855,291
LH:3,232,470,602
BA:2,969,790,657
AF:2,947,863,927
CZ:2,338,943,535
SQ:2,284,561,770

It seems that EK will become No.1 in the airline industry soon if they keep the same growth rate! What's your opinion?


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User currently offlinereality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

ASK (Available Seat Kilometres) is one valid way of ranking the size of airlines.

Another way is by number of passengers carried.

World's largest airlines 2011 by scheduled passengers carried:

1) Delta Air Lines - 163 838 348
2) United Airlines - 141 799 000
3) Southwest Airlines - 135 274 464
4) American Airlines - 106 013 737
5) Lufthansa Group - 100 602 000
6) China Southern Airlines - 80 674 800
7) Ryanair - 76 400 000
8) Air France-KLM - 75 780 000
9) China Eastern Airlines - 68 724 960
10) US Airways - 60 854 368

Source: http://airlinepassenger.blogspot.com.../worlds-largest-airlines-2011.html

You could also rank them by number of planes, number of flights, etc. Each way of measuring skews the results one way or the other.

[Edited 2013-01-01 11:50:44]

User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
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Quoting justinlee (Thread starter):
EK:4,217,428,241

Hi Justinlee,

You're quoting the 2011 stats. EK has offered ~4.9M ASK in November this year but that is still about 1.2m off top runner UA and behind DL in second place.

They've also been trumped by the CO UA merger which shows as artificial growth for 2012 at 68%.

Still, 3rd (really 2nd) place isn't to be sniffed at and I expect to see them take the throne in the next 3 years.

Sandyb123

[Edited 2013-01-01 12:08:10]


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User currently offlinefaro From Egypt, joined Aug 2007, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

Or market capitalisation, which is the acid test in terms of financial standing. How does EK compare here?


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User currently offlinemickster From Austria, joined Feb 2009, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1075 times:
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Emirates is not a public company so you cannot use that for comparison. Plus market cap has much more disadvantages when used for comparison purposes so I do not believe it would be of any value here, even if comparing among peers ...

User currently onlineAzure From France, joined Dec 2012, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 922 times:

Quoting mickster (Reply 4):
Plus market cap has much more disadvantages when used for comparison purposes so I do not believe it would be of any value here, even if comparing among peers ...

Agreed, but the turnover is an interesting data though.
EK does not appear in this ranking since they are not a public company...
1) LH
2) DL
3) AF/KL
4) UA/CO
5) AMR
6) IAG
7) NH
8) WN
9) US
10) CA

(Figures for 2011)
Source (sorry could not find these data in english...) : http://www.fb-bourse.com/classement-2011-compagnies-aeriennes/2/


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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7768 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 896 times:

Source Airline Business and based on RPKs EK will be in 2016, #1 followed by DL and UA

There will be 2 European carriers left in the top 10 ranking, FR on #4 /from 14) and Lh on # 7 (from 6)


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User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 842 times:

I think total pax is a better way of measuring in this case. EK is so focused on Long Haul. They just aren't big for most flights and pax in most of the world. They will keep on growing, but at some point DXB might hit a little bit of market saturation. Look how quickly it rose. Cities can die off that fast too.

This doesn't count from a pure largest carrier point of view, but many US and European carriers have regional affiliates. With DL connection, DL moves an awful lot of pax. Many connect in at hubs, but many are purely on connection and/or partner airlines.

By ASK, they will be on top in 3-4 years. But they won't be the largest carrier in my book.

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