eugegall From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 86 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5684 times:
Hi All,
After seeing this picture it dawned on me that if you were over the atlantic in the middle of the night and had the window seat and suddenly needed the loo what would they expect you to do? Climb over the stranger next to you? Or is there an access point I cant see?
B747forever From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5643 times:
Much worse for the Y passenger having the window seat on a 3 seater.
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2303 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5406 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 1): This is why I always choose an aile seat when flying long haul.
Yep, than you have people climbing over you instead. For us skinny people, there is a fine art to climbing from a window seat over two other sleeping coach passengers in 31" pitch seats with the seats in front of them reclined all the way back, without waking them up during a red-eye.
xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2345 posts, RR: 52 Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5390 times:
After seeing this picture it dawned on me that if you were over the atlantic in the middle of the night and had the window seat and suddenly needed the loo what would they expect you to do? Climb over the stranger next to you? Or is there an access point I cant see?
It's actually quite easy to step over someone when flying J in a normal configured 2 recliner style seats. LH looks like they took the innovative approach and angled the way the seats are facing so you have more room to step into and out of.
nws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 781 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5372 times:
It's really not as bad as it looks. You can step over the passengers legs if the seat is flat or if they are sitting up there is usually enough room to scoot by.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5283 times:
Quoting nws2002 (Reply 8): It's really not as bad as it looks. You can step over the passengers legs if the seat is flat or if they are sitting up there is usually enough room to scoot by.
Agree, not that difficult. It was much more difficult with many of the old recliner sleeper seats. I normally always choose an aisle seat, but I recall one KL 744 flight BKK-AMS where only window seats were available (in the nose section, by far the best place to sit on a 747) and with the seats in the row in front fully reclined and the passenger in the aisle seat next to me in full recline mode, it was basically impossible to leave my seat without waking the passenger in the aisle seat and asking him to get up so I could get out. It was easier if the seats in front were upright.
Many of the new flat-bed layouts such as the herringbone seats avoid that issue as every passenger has direct aisle access (or almost every passenger in the case of the "staggered" seats such as those on LX A330/340s where only 5 of 45 J seats lack direct aisle access) http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/fly_swis...ircraft/Pages/airbus_a330_300.aspx
Ha! I choose the window because I'd rather climb over you in the middle of the night than have you climb over me! I might wake you up, but you're not going to wake me up.
These looks pretty easy for the climb over, certainly easier than the pmUA J class seats that I'm used to. And those aren't that hard. Not that easy either, but if you're reasonably coordinated you can climb over your sleeping neighbor without any disruption.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 859 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
Quoting eugegall (Thread starter): over the atlantic in the middle of the night and had the window seat and suddenly needed the loo what would they expect you to do? Climb over the stranger next to you?
No, but the window seat passenger does have the convenience of the adjacent side wall to pee on, so there is no need to worry about climbing over (and risk waking up) a sleeping aisle seat passenger.
UA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4082 times:
Well, If you ask nicely, I bet LH would provide you with a pink metal pail!
I have never climbed over J class. Only Y class. J doesn't look that bad. A few seating configurations I've seen have staggered seating for slightly easier access to the window seats. But usually, get ready to climb.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6276 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1394 times:
Quoting Fallap (Reply 2): This is why I always choose an aile seat when flying long haul.
Because you like people climbing over you??
Quoting B747forever (Reply 3): Much worse for the Y passenger having the window seat on a 3 seater.
MUCH worse. If absolutely necessary, waking seatmates up and offering apologies is the only way forward. Also, if taking the window seat in Y it is only manners not to drink a gallon of beer so that you're not going to be up every five minutes. Some guys can't seem to figure that one out for themselves.
Yep, than you have people climbing over you instead. For us skinny people, there is a fine art to climbing from a window seat over two other sleeping coach passengers in 31" pitch seats with the seats in front of them reclined all the way back, without waking them up during a red-eye.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17):
Because you like people climbing over you??
Yes, I would rather have people climbing over me, than the other way around. I feel extremely claustrophobic if sitting at the window, next to two others.I prefere the freedom of the aisle seat. But again, when I fly longhaul I often choose an aisle seat in the middle section. So often the people next to me (Who usually are all related) choose to climb over them, rather than me. And climbing over two men who weight more than a truck combines, isn't as easy as it sounds.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6276 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 924 times:
Quoting Fallap (Reply 18): I feel extremely claustrophobic if sitting at the window,
Weird - somehow, having the window next to me and the slight extra space afforder by the curve of the fuselage makes it feel less claustraphobic to me.
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