glbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 487 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2624 times:
Returned from an extended trip to Asia through LAX yesterday. Aside from the visual reminder about what a dump Tom Bradley is when compared with most international facilities in other countries, I had one particular experience that hasn't happened before.
CBP hasn't stamped US passports on return for years now, but they've always been willing to when asked. As I have one of the older 45 page passports that will expire before it fills up and I like to have a record of my return date I usually remember to ask for a return stamp and up until yesterday CBP has been more than willing to accommodate the request.
Yesterday at LAX, I asked for a stamp. The agent said no and that there were only 4 circumstances in which they would stamp a US passport. After 36 hours of travel my memory is fuzzy, but one of them had something to do with travel with a minor. Don't recall the rest.
Strange because last month I returned through SFO and they had no problems stamping my passport.
xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2352 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2586 times:
I honestly don't know why this is in trip reports, but here is my anecdotal stories from filling up two passports.
I have had one time that I was refused an entry/exit stamp for any country (26 and counting) and that was Israel. While it would have been really neat to have that stamp in there, they asked me if I plan on heading to a Gulf nation or anywhere in the middle east and they refused to stamp my passport given my "i really don't know" just due to the hostility in the region and that would give their CBP folks more than enough to give me the rubber glove treatment or just straight up deny my entry into their countries.
US CBP for the most part stamps both my blue form and a passport page. I like my pages nice and orderly and every other country just finds the next page with room for their stamp and places it in there. US CBP loves to just open my passport, usually halfway to almost the end of it and stamp there.
I have gone thru RDU, ATL, BOS, MSP, DTW, MCO, MEM, CVG, LAX, HNL, SEA, SFO, and SLC customs state-side (and DUB-preclearance) and only once going thru ATL did I not get a stamp (got it after asking).
If I had to guess, it's maybe that the chip reader in the new US passports have surpassed a certain percentage that they don't stamp those passports anymore? Or it could be a new policy or procedure for the CBP as of this year?
I will be sad to find out if this is the case as I like the US stamp (and to see how many I can get!)
glbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2240 times:
Quote: I honestly don't know why this is in trip reports
Wasn't sure where else to put it. Is there a better forum?
I did see a notice a while ago that stated that State was no longer going to issue the 45 page passport, even if requested. Apparently anyone who needs more pages now has to send in their passport and ask for the additional pages to be stapled in. Although the US may not be stamping entry/exit anymore, most other countries still are. Even those that participate in Visa Waiver like Singapore, Taiwan, and the UK.
And I agree - some agents are reasonably considerate about stamping. Most are not. This guy may have been having a bad day. I was standing in line for over 30 minutes while he had someone come over and try to fix his terminal.
glbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2023 times:
I have passports from 30 years ago that all show reentry stamps and never had to ask for them back then. At some point, I noticed that CBP weren't stamping the passport, just the Customs Declaration form, but would stamp the passport if asked. Now it seems they aren't even doing that unless I just hit an agent who was having a bad day.
Yflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 845 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1982 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3): In extensive international travel in to the States - albeit all on the east coast - I don't think I've ever NOT received a stamp. Is it different in California?
The same here. I don't travel internationally very often, but when I have I've always gotten a stamp from US CBP upon reentry to the USA, including at LAX just a few months ago. I didn't even ask; they just stamped it. Could it be because I still have the older style passport without the RFID chip?
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
I haven't traveled international all that much, but every time I got stamped upon reentry (and I have a passport with the RFID chip). Honestly I thought that was procedure, I didn't know that they apparently sometimes don't stamp the passport.
There has never been a reason, but at one point at least, it was routine throughout the country. Much of western Europe is far ahead of the States on not stamping passports. At least for US citizens, France hasn't stamped routinely in ages.
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5): My 3-year old US passport has zero US entry stamps.
I think age of the passport is the issue. Mine expires in 2014, which IIRC makes it two generations removed from what is currently being issued.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3095 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1841 times:
Last time I got a passport stamp upon returning to the US was at PHL in 1997. Since then I've entered through ATL, DFW, and LAX, and done pre clearance at YOW, and none of them have stamped my passport, only the customs declaration. I'd guessed that it had to do with US citizens not needing a documented entry date into the US (to verify that a visitor hasn't overstayed, for example).
I wasn't aware that many European countries weren't stamping US passports. VCE in 2007, LHR in 2009, and BRU in 2012 all stamped mine, though only BRU was with the new RFID passport.
aklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 715 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
I was just calculating if my current 45 page passport would last out the two years until it expires. Based on my historic patterns, I'll end up with maybe 3 empty pages. I hope CBP doesn't use them up. At some border entries I ask them to use a particular page that has an empty slot just to keep things compact. In some places a sloppy stamp can take 2 or 3 positions.
China uses an entire page for every single entry visa. Most annoying.
BE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
Quoting aklrno (Reply 15): At some border entries I ask them to use a particular page that has an empty slot just to keep things compact. In some places a sloppy stamp can take 2 or 3 positions.
I agree with you - but it's a good example of the range and variety of A.nuts and their interests - in this case some want all the stamps they can get, while I often have to beg them not to stamp or at least be neat and maximise the stamps per page, just so I don't have to get a new passport every couple of years. My current one 'might' make 4 years, but only due to overt / aggresive management of stamp happy immigration officers. (Not too aggressive of course, or you get a the undesired experience of finding out what happens behind the inspection doors).
Exit stamps are the worst - especially when just transiting the airport! About a third of my stamps are probably entry / exits where I was in the country for 4 hours or less! Fortunately the US and Canada won't stamp 99% of the time (well, maybe 90% of the time for the US, as even with NEXUS / Global Entry I did pick up a couple of US entry stamps last year...go figure).
Herc4ever From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 50 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1611 times:
Quoting hawaiian717 (Reply 14): I wasn't aware that many European countries weren't stamping US passports.
At FRA, I have to ask sometimes, but I am always able to get a stamp. I left via RMS once and didn't get a stamp and when I next entered the EU via FRA, the Bundespolizei was very quick to notice I had an entry stamp without a matching exit stamp. That led to a rather long conversation in an interview room to get straightened out.
GTF PDX EUG DEN SLC SFO SEA SAT DFW ORD MSP ATL PHL JFK CLT BWI ADD CGN FRA HHN PMI GSE RMS FRF AVB IUD KIK KWI BGW HBE
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21290 posts, RR: 19 Reply 22, posted (5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1542 times:
Quoting Herc4ever (Reply 19): I left via RMS once and didn't get a stamp and when I next entered the EU via FRA, the Bundespolizei was very quick to notice I had an entry stamp without a matching exit stamp.
I have a hard time believing that. I have numerous non-matching EU stamps. CDG, for instance, is spotty about stamping on entry but almost always stamps on exit. Many if not most of my matching EU pairs, however, are nowhere near each other in my passport.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6105 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1522 times:
As a dual citizen, I always enter the US on my US passport. With that in mind, I almost never, ever get a US entry stamp. I think I have three in the last three years (and I clear US immigration about 20 times each year, so 3 out of 60 times I have gotten a stamp). Those stamps were at JFK, ORD and YUL (I think). LAX, SFO, DFW, multiple other times through ORD, IAD, SEA, MIA, ATL...nothing.
And yes, I know I should get Global Entry. Just haven't gotten around to it.
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25 StarAC17: Land border or air?? If its a land border the customs guy at the booth probably doesn't have one. They do inside the border inspection buildings if y
26 Viscount724: If France is your first point of entry to the Schengen area, they should be stamping your passport. Same applies at the last point of departure from
27 Cubsrule: Some (probably not most, but a decent number) French officers at CDG don't even open US passports.
28 Braniff747SP: Armenia does too. I don't travel much so I don't mind, but if one is a frequent flier it could be an inconvenience. Always catches the eye of the Cus
29 Maverick623: SFO didn't stamp my passport in 2006, but PHL has always stamped it (I have about half a dozen from them), plus one from DUB. Should be, being the op
30 falstaff: I kind of figured he was full of BS. My dad flies into Canada periodically and they don't stamp his passport either. They used to, but they claim not
31 legacyins: I flew into SFO this morning from Seoul and did not get a stamp. I kind of knew it would not happen though
32 StarAC17: I would think they don't as anyone crossing into the US or Canada who doesn't have a US or Canada passport probably needs to go in for formal clearan
33 777ord: I ask them to stamp it every time. IF they don't.. Tell them you're trying to hit 100stamps or something as soon as possible!!!!