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User currently offlineErj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6825 posts, RR: 16
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

From my understanding, most airlines use their Flight 1 as their flagship flight. Delta 1 is JFK-LHR And American 1 is JFK-LAX... so why did United change their flight 1 to RDU-SFO? Do they not go by the flagship standard or is that outdated.

One more question i always wondered is why don't airlines do XXX-RDU as flight 919? I mean, that is the area code..  


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User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4449 times:
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Airlines used to have flight 1 as their premier/exotic flight. Of course, UA had to screw it up. Way to go Jeff!

IIRC didn't CO used to run their flight 1 from IAH to LAX to GUM?


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

Interesting how few changes there've been over the years:

From 2005: Different Airlines' Flight 1? (by Longhornmaniac Dec 18 2005 in Civil Aviation)

From 2004: Airlines' Flight 001 (by TriJetFan1 Jul 5 2004 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 3030 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

CO long had flt. 1 on IAH-HNL-GUM. Not sure what UA's used to be.


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User currently onlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3405 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

UA flight 1 and 2 used to be its RTW flights (I believe).


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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 9077 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

LH 001 is HAM-FRA, which is highly appropriate for historic reasons.


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User currently offlinenickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

QF1 traditionally has been SYD-BKK-LHR, became and is currently SYD-SIN-LHR (following QF dropping BKK-LHR) and will soon be SYD-DXB-LHR.

I suspect that London likely has the highest number of flight number ones serving it. I know MH, NZ, BA (serving LCY) as well as DL as noted above all serve London with their flight number one.


User currently offlinechootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

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FWIW, UA 1 will be operating MUC-IAD effective the summer schedule--31MAR13  



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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

Quoting nickofatlanta (Reply 6):
I suspect that London likely has the highest number of flight number ones serving it. I know MH, NZ, BA (serving LCY) as well as DL as noted above all serve London with their flight number one.

Add EK and QR to that list.

EK001 is DXB-LHR, QR001 is DOH-LHR.

Interestingly, EY001 is AUH-FRA.

Oh, and SQ001 remains SFO-HKG-SIN.



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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

LO still has it.

LO1 is WAW-ORD, I guess it has to do with being the longest route at the time and important to LO's pax living in the Chicago area, being it the expats from Poland?

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 8308 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

US 1 is PHX-ORD.....not sure why.


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User currently offlineEASTERN747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 683 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.

User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3248 times:

UA 1 used to be ORD-HNL back in 2006/7

User currently offlineytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 3144 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

I would have figured it would be YYZ-LHR or something like YUL-CDG.


User currently offlinedcann40 From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 11):
PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.

And I believe PA flight 2 was RTW in the opposite direction.


User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 3223 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3027 times:
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Quoting ytz (Reply 13):
Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

I would have figured it would be YYZ-LHR or something like YUL-CDG.

All AC flights to Europe fall within the 800-899 range.

Plus all AC Eastbound flights are even-numbered.



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

SK 001 is a domestic flight in Sweden, LLA-ARN.

User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3727 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2983 times:
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B6 flight 1 is (not surprisingly) JFK-FLL

AM flight 1 is (also not surprisingly) MEX-MAD

AF flight 1 was the Concorde from JFK-CDG

HA flight 1 is LAX-HNL

AS flight 1 is DCA-SEA

9K flight 1 is BOS-ACK



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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

CX1/2 is a cargo flight

User currently offlineyapple From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

CI 001 was HNL-TPE

I took this particular flight in Jan 2010, and I think China Airlines stopped operating CI 1/2 a few months after.

SQ 001 is SFO-HKG-SIN.

[Edited 2013-01-22 19:24:54]

User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27361 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting ytz (Reply 13):
Air Canada 1 is quite the random: YYZ-NRT.

As with a few of AC's other transpacific flight numbers, they inherited it from CP and didn't change it.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 15):
Plus all AC Eastbound flights are even-numbered.

Many airlines, especially those based in North America, have long used use the "eastbound even, westbound odd" flight numbering convention.

DL has a couple of exceptions. When they purchased UA's New York-London rights (but initially had to operate to LGW due to the bilateral before the US-EU Open Skies agreement was implemented in 2008 and permitted them to move to LHR), their inaugural JFK-LGW flight was DL1 as they obviously wanted to use that number for the US-originating flight. When they added a second daily frequency on the route it became DL3.

I think DL1 and DL3 are thus DL's only eastbound flights with odd numbers, and DL2 and DL4 the only westbound flights with even numbers.

Several European carriers use even numbers from their hubs (regardless of direction) and odd numbers to their hubs.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From Spain, joined Oct 2008, 3081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

BA flight 1 and 2 used to be the LHR-JFK Concorde service; it has now shifted to the LCY-JFK all business A318 service.


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User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 1135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Quoting dcann40 (Reply 14):
Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 11):
PA flight 1 was RTW, starting in New York and headed East bound.

And I believe PA flight 2 was RTW in the opposite direction.

NZ 1/2 is round the world in both directions AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL until they drop the HKG-LHR leg (soon, I think.)


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):
Several European carriers use even numbers from their hubs (regardless of direction) and odd numbers to their hubs.

As do most carriers outside the United States (but with odd away from base, and even back home...)

Quoting aklrno (Reply 22):
NZ 1/2 is round the world in both directions AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL until they drop the HKG-LHR leg (soon, I think.)

NZ1/2 only apply to AKL-LAX-LHR return.

AKL-HKG-LHR return is NZ35/36.


User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 1135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 23):
NZ1/2 only apply to AKL-LAX-LHR return.

AKL-HKG-LHR return is NZ35/36.

I must be spending too much time deprived of oxygen. Should have remembered that since I've done the trip several times.


User currently offlineicanfly From Australia, joined Aug 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

NH 1 is IAD-NRT and NH 2 is NRT-IAD
But I believe the flagship flights used to be NRT-SFO-NRT for historic reasons.



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User currently offlineCoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
US 1 is PHX-ORD.....not sure why.

My guess: it's because that was the premier route for America West.

Does anyone know what Northwest's Fl #1 was? My guess would be that it was to/from Tokyo from either ORD, DTW or MSP.

[Edited 2013-01-28 19:28:44]

User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27361 posts, RR: 22
Reply 27, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 26):
Does anyone know what Northwest's Fl #1 was? My guess would be that it was to/from Tokyo from either ORD, DTW or MSP.

NW1 was SEA-Tokyo for many years. In later years (1980s/90s) it switched to LAX-NRT. In earlier propeller days NW1 originated in NYC and had various other stops en route to SEA. It also sometimes continued beyond Tokyo to various Asian destinations.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 28, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

VA1 is SYD-LAX

VS1 is LHR-EWR (interstingly it is EWR rather than JFK)

JL1 is SFO-HND

NH1 is IAD-NRT

-CXfirst



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