Jetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
I can't stand them! After 10 Hours in a DL 763, I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL. The leather just doesn't breath and I already sweat a lot, compounding for a most unpleasant flight despite being in J.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1367 times:
I can't stand them! After 10 Hours in a DL 763, I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL. The leather just doesn't breath and I already sweat a lot, compounding for a most unpleasant flight despite being in J.
Exactly, another big problem with leather and well put !
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CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1311 times:
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I actually prefer them over cloth seats. I think it has a higher level of hygiene, though I'm not sure if this is true or not! Also the cabin seems to smell fresher with leather seats rather then cloth seats.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24897 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1258 times:
I prefer them to be honest . I cant remember the last time I was on a carrier that had cloth. Maybe my last longhaul flatbed I think certainly not on a shorthaul flight.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21481 posts, RR: 24 Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 6): I prefer them to be honest . I cant remember the last time I was on a carrier that had cloth. Maybe my last longhaul flatbed I think certainly not on a shorthaul flight.
One reason (among others) I've almost abandoned LX and now prefer KL within Europe is the fact that KL only uses cloth seats on their 737s and Fokker 70s. Only the E-190s have leather seats. I find the cloth seats on KL 737s and F70s much more pleasant. They also look nicer than worn and wrinkled leather. And you don't slide around on cloth (or stick to it). KL interiors are always excellently-maintained and spotless. Even the Fokker 70s always look like new (and have the most comfortable seats of any KL aircraft, longhaul or shorthaul, much nicer than the slippery leather seats on the E-190s with very short bottom seat cushions with no leg support).
As you say, it's hard to avoid leather on shorthaul aircraft now but leather is very rare on longhaul aircraft except probably some of the low-cost operators. I would never choose a carrier with leather seats on a longhaul flight.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4844 posts, RR: 27 Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1133 times:
I preferr leather seats. But, there´s leather and leather. I do find some airlines have better quality than others. But in general, they are fresher and cleaner.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
On short haul flights I honestly don't mind leather, but I can't imagine flying long haul in a leather seat. All my longhaul flights have had cloth seats thankfully. My girlfriend flew DL SYD-LAX-SYD and said that she didn't have a problem, but I would personally avoid them.
BD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 597 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1095 times:
Personally hate them. Uncomfortable, sweaty, pain inducing things, hardly the soft comfy leather chair in my living room. They are way over hyped by airlines. Is it even real leather on most of them?
MSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1569 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1070 times:
I definitely prefer cloth. Leather doesn't breathe and seems to make the entire seat uncomfortable, even down to the contour. It also looks ratty when worn and shows marks too easily. Nothing about them I like better than cloth.
Cloth saved me once. I got fairly severely sunburned in Hawaii a few years ago (my mistake), and my trip back was in a NW 744 (right before Delta recovered them to leather). Thanks to the nice cloth seat, I actually was comfortable sitting down for the first time since I got burned. And it turned that entire flight into probably my most memorable one--in a good way.
shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6100 posts, RR: 15 Reply 12, posted (3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 973 times:
Leather seats are fine on short haul but I'd hate them on long haul, anything more than 2-3 hours in a leather seat would be very uncomfortable for me.
The last time I was on a short haul flight with cloth seats was in 2008 when Ryanair still had some of their old cabins.
Apart from that flight it has been almost always leather seats on short haul, the only exception being the 787 flights with LOT in Europe but that's a long haul aircraft so not sure it counts!
spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3251 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 827 times:
It's a fad, it'll die down and someday we'll have moved on to some other material.
Already the "leather" most airlines use is changing. It used to be the shiny, polished kind, which JetBlue and probably certain other airlines still use. But that now looks dated to me, and that's the kind I think most people complain about because it gets sweaty and slippery and also looks ratty very quickly.
Nowadays I see a lot of harder, duller leathers (or simulated leathers). I don't really mind that kind of material; it seems to offer the best of both worlds. Easy to clean, wears well, doesn't make you sweaty.
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lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10681 posts, RR: 100 Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 539 times:
Quoting spacecadet (Reply 14):
It's a fad, it'll die down and someday we'll have moved on to some other material.
It is there do to cheaper cleaning costs. It will be leather or simulated leather until someone comes up with a cheaper to clean cloth or other material. Isn't a fad when backed by economics.
Quoting babybus (Reply 13): I guess they are not cleaned at all.
Huh? Jetblue does a nice job of scrubbing their seats. I would rather see the dirt on leather than not see it and have it wipe off onto me (or just smell, as cloth so often does).
My last car had artificial leather that was better than any cloth for breathing and that was a circa 2000 car, so by now it must be available for airlines too (qualified material).
TheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2346 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 532 times:
Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 1): I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL.
Nice !
They have products available now days for such complaints. I think they are called incontinence pads.
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 5): I actually prefer them over cloth seats. I think it has a higher level of hygiene,
Absolutely.
Vomit, smelly feet placed all over cloth seats, food spills, Babies dribble, and according to one poster who suffers from excess sweat and a condition called "swamp ass"....all saturating into cloth. Lovely!
Give me leather any day. A much better choice.
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