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Does Anyone Else Hate Leather Seats On Aircraft?  
User currently onlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4683 posts, RR: 19
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3633 times:

I can't stand them, slipping and sliding all over the place, is this just me ?


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User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3085 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3619 times:

I can't stand them! After 10 Hours in a DL 763, I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL. The leather just doesn't breath and I already sweat a lot, compounding for a most unpleasant flight despite being in J.


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17085 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

I hate them too, because of:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 1):
swamp ass



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User currently onlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4683 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 1):


I can't stand them! After 10 Hours in a DL 763, I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL. The leather just doesn't breath and I already sweat a lot, compounding for a most unpleasant flight despite being in J.

Exactly, another big problem with leather and well put !



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User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

I've never flown long haul with leather seats. But on short haul they are as comfy as regular seats. They even feel a bit cooler during summer.  

User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1890 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3543 times:
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I actually prefer them over cloth seats. I think it has a higher level of hygiene, though I'm not sure if this is true or not! Also the cabin seems to smell fresher with leather seats rather then cloth seats.

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27168 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

I prefer them to be honest . I cant remember the last time I was on a carrier that had cloth. Maybe my last longhaul flatbed I think certainly not on a shorthaul flight.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25700 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
I prefer them to be honest . I cant remember the last time I was on a carrier that had cloth. Maybe my last longhaul flatbed I think certainly not on a shorthaul flight.

One reason (among others) I've almost abandoned LX and now prefer KL within Europe is the fact that KL only uses cloth seats on their 737s and Fokker 70s. Only the E-190s have leather seats. I find the cloth seats on KL 737s and F70s much more pleasant. They also look nicer than worn and wrinkled leather. And you don't slide around on cloth (or stick to it). KL interiors are always excellently-maintained and spotless. Even the Fokker 70s always look like new (and have the most comfortable seats of any KL aircraft, longhaul or shorthaul, much nicer than the slippery leather seats on the E-190s with very short bottom seat cushions with no leg support).

As you say, it's hard to avoid leather on shorthaul aircraft now but leather is very rare on longhaul aircraft except probably some of the low-cost operators. I would never choose a carrier with leather seats on a longhaul flight.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6369 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3365 times:
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I preferr leather seats. But, there´s leather and leather. I do find some airlines have better quality than others. But in general, they are fresher and cleaner.

As for this:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
I hate them too, because of:
Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 1):
I can't stand them! After 10 Hours in a DL 763, I had a terrible case of swamp ass
Quoting Max Q (Reply 3):
Exactly, another big problem with leather and well put !

Just use baby powder on you butt, and swamp ass is gone.


User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5769 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

On short haul flights I honestly don't mind leather, but I can't imagine flying long haul in a leather seat. All my longhaul flights have had cloth seats thankfully. My girlfriend flew DL SYD-LAX-SYD and said that she didn't have a problem, but I would personally avoid them.


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User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 718 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Personally hate them. Uncomfortable, sweaty, pain inducing things, hardly the soft comfy leather chair in my living room. They are way over hyped by airlines. Is it even real leather on most of them?

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1975 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

I definitely prefer cloth. Leather doesn't breathe and seems to make the entire seat uncomfortable, even down to the contour. It also looks ratty when worn and shows marks too easily. Nothing about them I like better than cloth.

Cloth saved me once. I got fairly severely sunburned in Hawaii a few years ago (my mistake), and my trip back was in a NW 744 (right before Delta recovered them to leather). Thanks to the nice cloth seat, I actually was comfortable sitting down for the first time since I got burned. And it turned that entire flight into probably my most memorable one--in a good way.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6348 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Leather seats are fine on short haul but I'd hate them on long haul, anything more than 2-3 hours in a leather seat would be very uncomfortable for me.

The last time I was on a short haul flight with cloth seats was in 2008 when Ryanair still had some of their old cabins.


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Apart from that flight it has been almost always leather seats on short haul, the only exception being the 787 flights with LOT in Europe but that's a long haul aircraft so not sure it counts!


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3133 times:

Is it really leather? It's more like pleather.

It would be the sign of luxury in the old days to have leather seats. Viasa had them in First class and they were comfy.

Now I just associate 'leather' seats with Ryanair.

I don't like them. I guess they are not cleaned at all. All those greasy heads touching the seat back. Eww...


User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

It's a fad, it'll die down and someday we'll have moved on to some other material.

Already the "leather" most airlines use is changing. It used to be the shiny, polished kind, which JetBlue and probably certain other airlines still use. But that now looks dated to me, and that's the kind I think most people complain about because it gets sweaty and slippery and also looks ratty very quickly.

Nowadays I see a lot of harder, duller leathers (or simulated leathers). I don't really mind that kind of material; it seems to offer the best of both worlds. Easy to clean, wears well, doesn't make you sweaty.



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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13302 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2771 times:
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Quoting AR385 (Reply 8):

I preferr leather seats.

I prefer the leather. As long as I wear

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 14):

It's a fad, it'll die down and someday we'll have moved on to some other material.

It is there do to cheaper cleaning costs. It will be leather or simulated leather until someone comes up with a cheaper to clean cloth or other material. Isn't a fad when backed by economics.

Quoting babybus (Reply 13):
I guess they are not cleaned at all.

Huh? Jetblue does a nice job of scrubbing their seats. I would rather see the dirt on leather than not see it and have it wipe off onto me (or just smell, as cloth so often does).

My last car had artificial leather that was better than any cloth for breathing and that was a circa 2000 car, so by now it must be available for airlines too (qualified material).

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User currently offlineflyabr From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 672 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Hate the leather...much prefer cloth. I do like the leather in my vehicles, but that actually feels like leather!

User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2897 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 1):
I had a terrible case of swamp ass when I arrived in ATL.

Nice !   

They have products available now days for such complaints. I think they are called incontinence pads.   


Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 5):
I actually prefer them over cloth seats. I think it has a higher level of hygiene,

Absolutely.

Vomit, smelly feet placed all over cloth seats, food spills, Babies dribble, and according to one poster who suffers from excess sweat and a condition called "swamp ass"....all saturating into cloth. Lovely!

Give me leather any day. A much better choice.



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