falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6436 posts, RR: 30 Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7588 times:
Have you flown any routes in the past that can no longer be done on any airline? As airlines go away there are always routes that go away too. Sometimes multiple carriers fly the same route, but if one carrier were to drop that route you could still take another.
An example of that would be STL-YYZ . I flew TW STL-YYZ once and that flight is long gone, but a passenger could still fly nonstop between the two on Air Canada Jazz.
The route that sticks out in my mind is STL-SGF. I flew that route on Ozark a bunch of times as a kid and I know TW kept it for a while. Today you can't fly directly between the two cities anymore.
I can think of many routes that are gone, but the STL-SGF route is the only one I can think of that I have flown on that is gone.
b2319 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7564 times:
There must be many such routes as the range of widebodies has increased over the years; so- ANC, PIK and SNN are all airports that have lost a lot of passenger services over the years.
Plus, we can accuse the likes of FR dropping routes like erm, "ladies of the night's underwear".....
Personally I have flown these discontinued routes, possibly more:
1995 MAN to BOM & return with SQ (744)
1997 MEM to AMS with KL (MD11)
2000 LGW to TLV & return with BA (772)
2002 BSL to BHX & return with LX (Saab 2000; I think)
2002 LGW to DFW with BA (772)
2004 EDI to ZRH with Duo Airways (CRJ)
2004 ZRH to DFW with AA (763)
2005 PVG to VIE with OS (332)
2006 NCL to TRF with FR (738)
2006 NGB to SHA with MU (320)
2007 MME to LHR with BD (321)
2007 MME to WAW & return with W6 (320)
2007 MAN to SIN & return with SQ (77W)
2007 AYQ to PER with QF (717)
2008 NCL to PRG & return with U2 (73G)
Of all of these, the one that surprises me is the AYQ to PER route. Most of the others I can explain e.g. global downturn for MAN to SIN, high speed rail taking out NGB to SHA, LCCs (FR & U2) leaving after their incentives expire, lucrative slot warmer in the case of BD for MME at LHR.
Not a massive list, though a geographically broad one nonetheless.....
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29497 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7444 times:
Around 1976 I flew SAA JFK-SID-JNB and back, 747-200. SID (Sal Island in Cape Verde) was mainly a fuel stop but I'm pretty sure SAA had 5th freedom rights to/from SID. No service on those sectors now.
A few other routes come to mind that I've flown that have no current service. There are probably a few others.
YYZ-BUF (US Air 733, 1989)
YYC-GTF (Western Airlines L-188 Electra, mid-'60s)
YYC-GEG (Hughes Airwest DC-9-30, early '70s)
YWG-DLH (North Central Convair 580, sometime in the '70s; first leg of a 6-stop flight that ended at ORD; I went as far as MKE, the 2nd last stop.All stops were in Wisconsin except DLH.)
YWG-LHR (AC around 1974. Operated YVR-YWG-LHR. I boarded at YVR. DC-8-63.)
YVR-LIM (CP DC-10-30, 1983. Routing YVR-LIM-SCL-EZE. I went all the way.)
YYZ-CPH (SAS, 763 sometime in the early to mid-1990s)
YYC-ZRH (AC, 763 in July 1996. AC operated YVR/YYC-ZRH about twice a week for about 2 years during that period, codeshared with Swissair. I think it was seasonal (summer only). They dropped the route when the Star Alliance was created in 1997 and FRA became more important.)
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7433 times:
Quoting b2319 (Reply 1): Of all of these, the one that surprises me is the AYQ to PER route.
When I saw this thread this came immediately to mind. Have guests here in PER at the moment, and we decided to book that flight a few days ago, and I was very surprised that route is gone. Now, I either have to fly via the East Coast, or fly to ASP and drive, or drive directly from PER. None are ideal for a weekend trip....
Another for me is PER-AVV
Stopped when JQ decided to move PER flights to MEL.
b2319 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7396 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 14): When I saw this thread this came immediately to mind. Have guests here in PER at the moment, and we decided to book that flight a few days ago, and I was very surprised that route is gone. Now, I either have to fly via the East Coast, or fly to ASP and drive, or drive directly from PER. None are ideal for a weekend trip....
I agree. Although 1000 plus miles by road isn't unusual in Australia, it still isn't my cup of tea.
My complete route in 2007 was MAN-SIN-MEL-SYD-CNS-AYQ-PER-MEL-SYD-CHC-SIN-MAN (all Boeing, by the way, including a 743).
This route just wouldn't have worked without the AYQ to PER segment, and I find it a little odd that CNS to AYQ survives, at least according to wiki last night.
dba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 677 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7369 times:
Just realized how many interesting routes my "homeport" lost within the last years...
KRK-SZZ OLT Express
POZ-TXL Jet Air
LPX-RIX Air Baltic
HAM-LPX Air Baltic
HAM-DRS Augsburg Airways, Cirrus
HAM-GDN LOT, OLT Jetair
HAM-TLL Estonian Air
Counting only sheduled flights, all withdrawn within the last 5-6 years...
Conclusion?! If you're owning an airline and have plans to open up a route to Hamburg, better put my name on the "no-fly list" if you want to have any success! That said I'm now fearing the worst for BM's new HAM-BRS service, me beeing aboard the inaugral flight last monday....