falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6398 posts, RR: 29 Posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7425 times:
Have you flown any routes in the past that can no longer be done on any airline? As airlines go away there are always routes that go away too. Sometimes multiple carriers fly the same route, but if one carrier were to drop that route you could still take another.
An example of that would be STL-YYZ . I flew TW STL-YYZ once and that flight is long gone, but a passenger could still fly nonstop between the two on Air Canada Jazz.
The route that sticks out in my mind is STL-SGF. I flew that route on Ozark a bunch of times as a kid and I know TW kept it for a while. Today you can't fly directly between the two cities anymore.
I can think of many routes that are gone, but the STL-SGF route is the only one I can think of that I have flown on that is gone.
b2319 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7401 times:
There must be many such routes as the range of widebodies has increased over the years; so- ANC, PIK and SNN are all airports that have lost a lot of passenger services over the years.
Plus, we can accuse the likes of FR dropping routes like erm, "ladies of the night's underwear".....
Personally I have flown these discontinued routes, possibly more:
1995 MAN to BOM & return with SQ (744)
1997 MEM to AMS with KL (MD11)
2000 LGW to TLV & return with BA (772)
2002 BSL to BHX & return with LX (Saab 2000; I think)
2002 LGW to DFW with BA (772)
2004 EDI to ZRH with Duo Airways (CRJ)
2004 ZRH to DFW with AA (763)
2005 PVG to VIE with OS (332)
2006 NCL to TRF with FR (738)
2006 NGB to SHA with MU (320)
2007 MME to LHR with BD (321)
2007 MME to WAW & return with W6 (320)
2007 MAN to SIN & return with SQ (77W)
2007 AYQ to PER with QF (717)
2008 NCL to PRG & return with U2 (73G)
Of all of these, the one that surprises me is the AYQ to PER route. Most of the others I can explain e.g. global downturn for MAN to SIN, high speed rail taking out NGB to SHA, LCCs (FR & U2) leaving after their incentives expire, lucrative slot warmer in the case of BD for MME at LHR.
Not a massive list, though a geographically broad one nonetheless.....
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 28765 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7281 times:
Around 1976 I flew SAA JFK-SID-JNB and back, 747-200. SID (Sal Island in Cape Verde) was mainly a fuel stop but I'm pretty sure SAA had 5th freedom rights to/from SID. No service on those sectors now.
A few other routes come to mind that I've flown that have no current service. There are probably a few others.
YYZ-BUF (US Air 733, 1989)
YYC-GTF (Western Airlines L-188 Electra, mid-'60s)
YYC-GEG (Hughes Airwest DC-9-30, early '70s)
YWG-DLH (North Central Convair 580, sometime in the '70s; first leg of a 6-stop flight that ended at ORD; I went as far as MKE, the 2nd last stop.All stops were in Wisconsin except DLH.)
YWG-LHR (AC around 1974. Operated YVR-YWG-LHR. I boarded at YVR. DC-8-63.)
YVR-LIM (CP DC-10-30, 1983. Routing YVR-LIM-SCL-EZE. I went all the way.)
YYZ-CPH (SAS, 763 sometime in the early to mid-1990s)
YYC-ZRH (AC, 763 in July 1996. AC operated YVR/YYC-ZRH about twice a week for about 2 years during that period, codeshared with Swissair. I think it was seasonal (summer only). They dropped the route when the Star Alliance was created in 1997 and FRA became more important.)
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3374 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7270 times:
Quoting b2319 (Reply 1): Of all of these, the one that surprises me is the AYQ to PER route.
When I saw this thread this came immediately to mind. Have guests here in PER at the moment, and we decided to book that flight a few days ago, and I was very surprised that route is gone. Now, I either have to fly via the East Coast, or fly to ASP and drive, or drive directly from PER. None are ideal for a weekend trip....
Another for me is PER-AVV
Stopped when JQ decided to move PER flights to MEL.
b2319 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7233 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 14): When I saw this thread this came immediately to mind. Have guests here in PER at the moment, and we decided to book that flight a few days ago, and I was very surprised that route is gone. Now, I either have to fly via the East Coast, or fly to ASP and drive, or drive directly from PER. None are ideal for a weekend trip....
I agree. Although 1000 plus miles by road isn't unusual in Australia, it still isn't my cup of tea.
My complete route in 2007 was MAN-SIN-MEL-SYD-CNS-AYQ-PER-MEL-SYD-CHC-SIN-MAN (all Boeing, by the way, including a 743).
This route just wouldn't have worked without the AYQ to PER segment, and I find it a little odd that CNS to AYQ survives, at least according to wiki last night.
dba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7206 times:
Just realized how many interesting routes my "homeport" lost within the last years...
KRK-SZZ OLT Express
POZ-TXL Jet Air
LPX-RIX Air Baltic
HAM-LPX Air Baltic
HAM-DRS Augsburg Airways, Cirrus
HAM-GDN LOT, OLT Jetair
HAM-TLL Estonian Air
Counting only sheduled flights, all withdrawn within the last 5-6 years...
Conclusion?! If you're owning an airline and have plans to open up a route to Hamburg, better put my name on the "no-fly list" if you want to have any success! That said I'm now fearing the worst for BM's new HAM-BRS service, me beeing aboard the inaugral flight last monday....
SRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 1008 posts, RR: 1
Reply 28, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7214 times:
First is the year(s) I used the service, than the route and airline(s) I used.
2007: KEF - BWI, FI 757-200. Icelandair now fly to Dulles instead as FI645/644 (I'm booked on 645 next month )
1998: KEF - LUX, FI 757-200. Had been flown for over 40 years (with equipment such as DC-6s, DC-8s and CL-44s) as a continuation of the JFK service (FI614/615) but was replaced by service to Frankfurt in the early 2000s.
2004: KEF - MCO, FI 757-200. Icelandair now fly to Sanford (SFB), but still keep the old flight numbers (688/689).
2005: SRQ - BWI, FL 717-200. Southwest decided to pull out of SRQ completely after buying AirTran. I miss seeing those "smiling A's" and the 717s flying over the golf courses already!
I think those are all, some of the flights I've taken with FI such as KEF-BCN are only flown in the highest season (July - August) but those are still operated on a scheduled basis though.
I take it that one-time charters, such as the KEF - AEY - MAN - CDG - MAN - AEY - KEF flight I took back in 2004 don't count.
Nothing compares to taking off in an empty 757 with full thrust!
foppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (2 years 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7187 times:
From 2000 to 2008 (IIRC), JetBlue served ONT-JFK. No carrier flies ONT-JFK anymore nowadays. JetBlue also cut 2x daily flights to JFK to 1x daily from BUR and may even pull out completely soon (so sad...)!
Another one is in Taiwan, due to the development of High Speed Rail, most domestic flights within the main island have stopped (except for the routes to outer islands). I used to fly between TSA and TNN quite frequently on Far Eastern Air Transport (EF) on B757, TransAisa Airways (GE) on A321, and now-defunct airlines such as Makung Airlines (BAe-146) and Great China Airlines (I don't remember what equipment they used).
flyTPA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 145 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7089 times:
PIE-MIA-PIE. I flew this sometime in the 1984-85 winter on a Convair 580 of Atlantic Gulf Airlines. The fare was $19 one way. I also flew this route on Air South on a 73S in the 1990s before they transferred their flights to TPA.
I also did ABE-AVP on US in a D9S (stopover on the way to PIT) and AVP-ABE (an extension of the ATL-AVP-ABE route) on EA on a D9S. I did ABE-BOS on an Allegheny Commuter F27 in the 1990s. I also flew ABE-MDT (on my way to ATL and connecting on to RSW) on a DL M88 and then got "bumped" because of an oversell so I caught the next flight which was routed MDT-ABE-ATL (yes, back to ABE) and got a $250 voucher for future travel. I know these routes are no longer flown. ATL-MDT, ATL-ABE and ATL-AVP are still flown but without the tag-on to ABE. Many routes inside of the state of PA are no longer flown-Reading and Lancaster were once connected to PHL and PIT on a daily basis.
I've done PIT-ABE-PIT on a D9S, 73S, 733, B11...this route is also no longer flown.
I flew CLE-ABE-CLE on a CO ERJ (connecting to TPA) which has been discontinued. EWR-ABE on an ATR was also a flight I miss. They now have bus service on the route.
I did SWF-PIE on a Southeast Airlines D9S. I flew TPA-PFN on Air New Orleans on a B99 in the mid 1980s.
My first flight to Europe was TPA-IAH-LGW on CO. IAH-LGW was flown with a CO 742. I know IAH-LHR is still flown but I don't think there are flights between IAH and LGW anymore.
I've also flown MXP-AOI on AZ M80 and NAP-FRA on a LH CRJ in the early 1990s. Neither of these routes are still flown, to the best of my knowledge.
As far as I can check online, they all seem to be discontinued routes. Some are possible with connections but some are impossible (from PIE the selections are limited).
Signore e signori-benvenuti a bordo questo volo per l'Italia!
visualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7066 times:
Quoting dba4u (Reply 21): Conclusion?! If you're owning an airline and have plans to open up a route to Hamburg, better put my name on the "no-fly list" if you want to have any success! That said I'm now fearing the worst for BM's new HAM-BRS service, me beeing aboard the inaugral flight last monday....
It's a shame we missed the E135 which was originally scheduled! I'll put that down to your luck.. I was on the inaugural BRS-HAM.
afterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1287 posts, RR: 2
Reply 51, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6801 times:
TKG (Radin Inten II Airport Bandar Lampung) - JKT (the old Jakarta Kemayoran Airport). Kemayoran Airport was closed in 1985 and its operation was moved to CGK. This airport is featured in one of the The Adventure of Tintin comics, Flight 714.
teo747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6788 times:
There are a few routes from the US to the UK that I have flown but are no longer in operation:
In the US, MEM-PNS (NW) is one route that I believe is no longer served non-stop. I could also arguably include BZN-BTM and BTM-SEA, as QX used to route their flights SEA-BZN-BTM-SEA or SEA-BTM-BZN-SEA, but now no longer serve BTM and fly SEA-BZN-SEA with no other stops.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 28765 posts, RR: 24
Reply 58, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6695 times:
Quoting teo747 (Reply 52): There are a few routes from the US to the UK that I have flown but are no longer in operation:
Originally Western Airlines around 1980/81. Didn't last long, about 18 months. They also operated HNL-ANC-LGW during that period. They acquired one DC-10-30 from NZ for the DEN route and used their own DC-10-10s from HNL/ANC. The DEN flight operated LAX-LAS-DEN-LGW.
FreshSide3 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6613 times:
BOS-ATH on both TW and OA
ORD-KBP Air Ukraine(forgot the carrier code)
JFK-OTP DL(In fact, I took this flight once)
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6596 times:
ANU - LHR
BGI - LHR
EDI - MSE
EDI - YYZ - though this will be resumed by AC Rouge this summer
LHR - POS
STN - TLL though FR will move their LTN flight to STN April 1 - meaning....
LTN - TLL - discontinued after March 31
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6466 posts, RR: 3
Reply 71, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6147 times:
Flew KE LHR-GMP-SYD and later on SYD-GMP-FRA a few months before ICN came into use. A shame really, because that 7-hour layover in GMP was murder (it was dreadful to say the least), although the chance to spot an SQ A340-300 Celestar before they were sold off sort of made up for it.
Ldriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6140 times:
I'm assuming many are listing one -or more -stop routes? Or is that just a few bloopers? As a TWA timetable collector, TW STL-AMS I'm pretty sure was never nonstop, and TW BOS-ATH was definitely never nonstop.
KingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1312 posts, RR: 10
Reply 82, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5841 times:
I didn't realize they dropped the route, but DL no longer flies ATL-ACA (Acapulco, Mexico). I flew that back in 2007, B757s each way.
Does Air Panama (or any airline, for that matter) still fly BOC (Bocas del Toro) - PAC (Panama City/Paitilla)? Also in 2007 I flew that on a Fokker 27-200. Aeroperlas operated the route on a Shorts 360 but I think they are now defunct.
Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you, By the livin' Gawd that made you, You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
pwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 85, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5769 times:
You can no longer fly between PWM - BOS on any airline! The route existed for over 60 years with airlines such as Northeast, Delta, USair, Northwest, United, BEX, etc. These days, everything is routed to the major hubs.
Also, I've flown the previous routes below on the respective airlines. They no longer exist with any carrier.
ORD-BGR. Previously served by UA
PWM -CVG. Previously served by DL
PWM-PIT Previously with US
MSP-OSL Previously with NW
BOS-GLA Previously with BA and NW