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American Or Cactus?  
User currently offlineChicagoflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 87 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3102 times:

Since US Airways Group is the acquiring entity, will the new airline use the AWA Cert or AA Cert and will the call sign for the New American Airlines be CACTUS or AMERICAN ???

[Edited 2013-02-21 08:49:24]

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User currently offlinewrldtvlr From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3065 times:

Without any insider knowledge, I would be my farm on the new callsign being "AMERICAN", especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

As for the operating certificate, I can see them keeping the AA cert for "historical" purposes.


User currently offlineAAIL86 From Finland, joined Feb 2011, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2978 times:

Quoting wrldtvlr (Reply 1):
Without any insider knowledge, I would be my farm on the new callsign being "AMERICAN", especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

As for the operating certificate, I can see them keeping the AA cert for "historical" purposes.

I'm sure this will be a hot debate  .

Personally, I can't see "Cactus" winning out over "American" , but while the surviving brand will be AA's - I think going forward the combined management will certainly throw in some nods to HP and US (maybe even TW - retrojet, anyone?) here and there ....

[Edited 2013-02-21 09:03:16]


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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

I vote for American. Cactus was quaint for the funky AW but not for a world class airline.

User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days ago) and read 2430 times:

Sounds like this could be a prickly issue! American seems to be the most likely

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

It sometimes amazes me what kind of questions people post here on A.net.

The call sign will obviously, positively, 100%, guaranteed, definitely, ... be AMERICAN.
There is no discussion here. Period.

Soren   



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3061 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

Somebody posted in another thread that the merged call sign would be FREEDOM, God I hope not.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

I agree the callsign is almost certain to be "American" for an airline named "American", but "Cactus" would have the advantage of brevity (only 2 syllables instead of 4) considering how congested ATC frequencies at busy airports can be.

User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Quoting wrldtvlr (Reply 1):
especially with HQ remaining in Dallas.

Everyone in Fort Worth just gasped....


Like many here, I'd bet on "American" surviving.



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

American, AAL, AA - no America West relics.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

I agree the callsign is almost certain to be "American" for an airline named "American", but "Cactus" would have the advantage of brevity (only 2 syllables instead of 4) considering how congested ATC frequencies at busy airports can be.

I've heard it pronounced 'Mer'can to shorten it to two syllables.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

I would like to see this:
IATA: AA
IACO: AWE
Callsign- American Airways  



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User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

It doesn't have anything to do with HQ or historical anything. It probably should be "American" to avoid confusion vs what is painted plane.

I would like to see AWE as the IATA, but more than that I would like to see the US livery kept, instead of that hideous PMAA rebrand. I would also like to hear that Parker was just telling Texas politicians what they want to hear, and that the HQ will remain in Tempe.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 9):
I've heard it pronounced 'Mer'can to shorten it to two syllables.

OK but the ones who pronounce it that way take longer to say it than the ones who pronounce the whole word correctly.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 11):
I would like to see AWE as the IATA,

AWE is the ICAO code. the IATA code is US.


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

I too will bet the farm American takes the callsign.

Not only was 'Cactus' synonymous with the America West brand that no longer exists, they are now the largest airline in America and thus "American" is the only callsign they will use. I will cover bets on this one.



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User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Being the largest in the US didn't make United or Delta use the "American" call sign. Why would it for this new "American Airlines"?


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User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Um....... Because neither of those mergers previously owned the name American Airlines??


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User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2050 times:

I would hate to see the American call sign disappear. Cactus was unique at the time.
As far as the flying certificate I'm almost 100% it'll be American. Over all American is
the dominate name and recognized. It'll stay.


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