cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7713 posts, RR: 55 Posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1341 times:
Not seasonal (eg AF to Corsica for a few summer months) or the odd positioning flight (LH), but year-round domestic widebody service.
Some obvious ones:
USA (DL ATL-California, AA JFK-California)
CANADA (AC YYZ-YVR and YYZ-YUL with 767s and A330s)
AUSTRALIA (QF various transcon + MEL-SYD-BNE-CNS; DJ transcon A330s)
JAPAN (lots of JL, NH; + Air Do 767s)
BANGLADESH (DAC-CGP and -ZYL DC-10s and A310s, currently also 777-300 ZYL-DAC)
KSA (SV 777 and 747 Riyadh to Jeddah)
THAILAND (A300s to various islands and cities + 747s and 777s to Phuket)
anyone got any more?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
planeguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1356 times:
IIRC GA runs a couple of daily A330s from CGK to DPS and SA does A340s between JNB and CPT
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 2, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1328 times:
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China has countless domestic widebody flights. The smallest I could find between SHA and PEK last summer on Air China was an A330, and CZ even uses the 380 domestically.
Akiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 607 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1296 times:
The Philippines is one: PR has widebody service to CEB, DVO and GES. In fact, CEB and DVO receive the entire PR fleet: from the smallest A319 to the largest 747.
AC currently operates all 4 of their widebody models on YYZ-YVR-YYZ, including 2 daily 763s, 1 daily A333, 1 daily 77W (the YYZ-YVR leg of AC7/8 to/from HKG) and 1 daily 77L (AC33/34 to/from SYD).
YYZ-YVR is probably the only route in AC's system that regularly sees every aircraft type in their mainline fleet other than the E-175/190..
rahulrahul From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
Here's a few for USA:
DL ATL-LAX 777
DL ATL-MCO 767
AA JFK-LAX 767
DL ATL-HNL A330
UA ORD-HNL 777
UA ORD-IAH 767
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AI was doing:
MAA-DEL 787
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Rahul
Anyway, I flew DEL-BOM on an AI 77W, a continuation from JFK but the domestic leg is bookable. I think there are also 777 flights continuing from the States/Europe to Ahmedabad, Bangalore and Chennai. Sure about BOM, pretty sure about Ahmedabad. Not sure on the other ones though. So that brings India as another country with domestic widebody service.
Iberia flies their 340s to the Canaries (TFN and I think also LPA) so that counts as domestic. I think they also operate BCN-MAD with their 346, continuing on to S-America. That counts for Spain.
AZ fly a 330 between FCO and MXP. Also, I think Neos and Air Italy have some domestic 767 flying. Not sure on that though.
I'm pretty sure that PIA fly their 747s and/or 777s inside Pakistan.
If you count Reunion and French Guyana as France, AF and UU fly widebodies domestically.
Same if you count Greenland as part of Denmark, that would leave SA)">GL's 330 flights from SFJ to CPH as domestic.
I don't recall any more domestic WB services.
So is this the complete list of domestic widebody services?
USA - SA)">UA, SA)">AA, SA)">DL, US and SA)">HA.
Canada - AC.
Australia - QF, VA and 3K.
Japan - NH, JL and Air Do.
Bangladesh - BG.
Saudi Arabia - SV.
Thailand - TG and Orient Thai.
Indonesia - GA.
South Africa - SA.
China - CA, MU, CZ. Should we count CX and KA in here?
Russia - SU, UN.
South Korea - KE, OZ? One or both?
UK - BA.
Philippines - PR.
Mexico - AM.
Brazil - JJ.
Vietnam - VN.
Portugal - S4, TP.
Chile - LA.
India - AI. Do 9W operate WBs domestically?
Spain - IB.
Italy - AZ.
Pakistan - PK.
(France - AF, UU. )
(Denmark - SA)">GL. )
Also, do MH operate their A330s inside Malaysia? I was also wondering if AV maybe operate inside Colombia with their 330s.
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7713 posts, RR: 55 Reply 20, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 990 times:
Of course, Iran! How forgetful of me - IR and W5 both fly lots of daily A300s (mostly B2 and B4) and often 747s (including the 747SP) - indeed one of their 747s (EP-IAI) was acquired quite recently just to do domestic + Jeddah. Also Saha / Meraj fly AB6, and Iran Air Tours gave their A300B4s to Iran Air but recently acquired an A310 from Turkey. So that's more widebody service than any other Asian country outside Japan and China.
I think some Cubana Il-96s operate Varadero to Havana as a tag-on to international services from Europe, but to qualify for our list, they need to be bookable and preferably in both directions - anyone know?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11139 posts, RR: 63 Reply 21, posted (2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 909 times:
Some others:
RAM in Morocco fly the 763 on CMN-RAK, sometimes with the 744 too.
Air Astana fly the 763 domestically on TSE-ALA, plus some other routes.
Air France fly several domestic widebody routes... if you count the territories, which many do.
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 20): I think some Cubana Il-96s operate Varadero to Havana as a tag-on to international services from Europe, but to qualify for our list, they need to be bookable and preferably in both directions - anyone know?
Bookable in one direction a few years ago, but not the other. Not sure about now.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 23, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 821 times:
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 21): Air France fly several domestic widebody routes... if you count the territories, which many do.
And not just French territories like French Polynesia (Tahiti) and New Caledonia, but also to Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana and Reunion which are French departments and fully part of France and part of the EU., no different than Hawaii and Alaska being fully part of the U.S.
qf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2558 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (2 months 3 weeks ago) and read 789 times:
Quoting n729pa (Reply 22): Canberra is also served with a 767, but I have to confess I can't remember where to
Perhaps in the past, but there certainly aren't any 767s into CBR these days. They do see plenty of big military aircraft and charters, but nothing in scheduled service.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2530 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 780 times:
Quoting qf002 (Reply 24): Perhaps in the past, but there certainly aren't any 767s into CBR these days.
QF used to fly a 767 once a day (maybe only on certain days?) to MEL. I saw it there a couple of times. I've forgotten the gate numbers in the old terminal, but it was too big to park on one of the gates with jetways so parked down the end of the terminal with the props. They had certainly ceased 767 service before moving to the new terminal, so I'm thinking it must have ended sometime in winter 2010.
This does raise a question I've often wondered. At peak times QF run a 737 from CBR to SYD, and then a Q400 5 or 10 minutes later. Why not just use a 767???
Interesting -- I didn't realise there had been regular service so recently. I could have sworn (though it could just be my brain playing tricks) that I saw 767 markings at one of the gates in the new terminal recently, though, so perhaps they could resume services?
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 25): At peak times QF run a 737 from CBR to SYD, and then a Q400 5 or 10 minutes later. Why not just use a 767???
QF's schedule is really strange in the evenings out of CBR -- 4 departures (2 jets, 2 props) between 4-5pm, but only 2 more departures (1 jet, 1 prop) in the next 2 hours till 6:55pm which I would have thought would be the busier period.
Re using the 767, I imagine it comes down to J vs Y demand, probably. The only people who fly J on this route are politicians, so they're probably better off using the J capacity elsewhere. It also gives them great flexibility to quickly cut demand to match supply through the week (as QF seems to love doing -- they seem to cancel at least one flight most days) without creating major rescheduling dramas for passengers.
I was just looking on FR24 and happened to see a QF 767 flying CBR-MEL so i checked QF website and sure enough QF 804/811 MEL-CBR-MEL is a scheduled 767 flight Monday to Wednesday
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2530 posts, RR: 2 Reply 30, posted (2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 702 times:
Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 28): I was just looking on FR24 and happened to see a QF 767 flying CBR-MEL so i checked QF website and sure enough QF 804/811 MEL-CBR-MEL is a scheduled 767 flight Monday to Wednesday
Christ! Your absolutely right! How did that one slip through the net without anyone noticing?!?
And loads look good, looking 7 days from now on 12/3 QF804 only has Fully Flexible Y and Business Class left. I don't recall ever seeing that before so long before departure.
So CBR-MEL is another domestic widebody flight for the purposes of this thread.
TurkishWings From Turkey, joined May 2006, 1407 posts, RR: 9 Reply 32, posted (2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 643 times:
TK also flies IST-ADB and IST-ESB regularly with 330s and 340s. During summer months, you can also see the TK wide-bodies in airports like DLM,BJV and AYT.