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Fantasy: Planes That Should Still Be Flying?  
User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

If anyone could keep one type/s of aircraft operating today such as L1011, DC10,
727 etc....... What would you keep flying and why? I would love to see the 727's still
fly they were the workhorse, then could carry a lot of freight and bags & would still be
useful today.

[Edited 2013-03-05 09:21:12]

40 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineabrown532 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

B757 Obviously. Beautiful aircraft.

User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

The 757is beautiful but is still flying

User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2510 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

DC-10. I loved that plane. Flew more times on the DC-10 than just about any other type back in the 80's and early 90's. Was a frequent traveler between ORD/SEA and UA used to run about four flights a day with the DC-10. For its time, their first class cabin was pretty nice on that aircraft. I'd get upgraded fairly often and it was a comfy ride. Have flown other routes as well (ORD/LAX, ORD/SFO, SEA/HNL, SEA/MSP to name a few) but it's the fond memories of ORD/SEA/ORD that made me of big fan the DC-10

User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

B757.... it´s the flying pencil!!!!! I think nobody will ever match that performances and the L-1011, i love that plane... it looks sooo nice... I saw one in NBO not long ago but when I went there they were boarding already so I can´t visit the cockpit... .... it has few special features that i wanted to see but maybe next time...

User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

I loved flying the L1011 I remember taking trips on them from mia/lax, atl/lax and to sfo.
Nice flights on all of them, ill never forget the RB211's the hum they had on start up and flying.


User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

For me its between MD11 and 732. I'll go with the 732, simply 'cuz it's the best machine Boeing ever made! 

Regards.



Flying4Ever!
User currently offlinemartinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

B727 and MD-11. The two most beautiful planes ever built.

User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Nice question.....I've always liked the Tristar and miss never having flown in one. But I think for me it would have to be Concorde. It's was so unique, it's one of my regrets in life that I never flew in it. You always think it will be there and maybe one day you'll do it, then you wake up one day and it's being retired and the fares are megabucks or the options are limited.

Haven't been in a 757 either (well it's all A320s or 737 these days isn't it), but I miss the 727s, I flew on 3, N1972 with AA one of the real earlier ones (no.21 I think), N7020U with UA and N322AS with AS . Surprising really how few there were 1300+ compared to the millions of 737s and A320s we have now, and yet it wasn't too long ago 727s were everywhere.


User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

I would go for the Tu-154!

User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

I flew the 727 a lot on different routes all nice flights. They were the workhorse as mention above.
Just wished they never phased them out.

I only flew the MD11 twice from MIA/DFW on AA and ATL/LAX on DL. Both very nice and smooth.
But, I heard they were not very easy to load as the inplane system always failed. A lot of ground crews
were happy they were phased out like the A300.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2281 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

DC-9... by this time next year.

User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
I think for me it would have to be Concorde.

Definitely! I cannot fathom how it took until reply #8 for her to be mentioned. So glad I got to witness one of her take-offs shortly before retirement... that was one impressive moment.   



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3446 times:

I remember seeing to concorde take off form mia. Those afterburners
shook everything around. Ahh the memories.


User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2510 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
it would have to be Concorde

Well, yeah that goes without saying but still I probably should have mentioned it.  
Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
So glad I got to witness one of her take-offs shortly before retirement... that was one impressive moment.

Saw it a few times - best up close view was at OSH - they took off about a half hour after a rain storm and to see the spray kicked up behind her and the roar of those engines was an experience I'll never forget!!
Was also lucky enough to see the final approach of G-BOAG as it came in to BFI to be put on permanent display at the Museum of Flight. Snuck out of work early that day to catch it


User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

For me it would be Convair 990 - Coronado hands down, the fastest jet at the time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LBHZvLDhvU

Cheers   

[Edited 2013-03-05 17:06:31]


Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineLdriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3362 times:

I was the lucky friend of a wealthy tycoon who flew me to Europe on the Concord. If I had known at the time it was effectively a death trap I would have almost certainly backed out.

One of my favorites is the 747SP. Something about its appeal is hard to define. It had a wider feel inside than the standard 747s owing to its stubiness. Maybe I was fond of its being smaller and therefore more personal. Or maybe just because it was rare. It cruised higher than other widebodies so was less turbulent (so it was claimed.) Then again, maybe it's because when I flew it transpacific in 1982, the market was far smaller, and the coach sections were often less than half full. That was in sharp contrast to today's sold out coach sections. This was the case on both of my JFK-NRT Pan Am SPs. Most people in coach effectively had a couch, so there was no need for C class. They were also newer, and when I transferred to a Pan Am 747-100 at NRT, it was noticeably dingier.

A nice treat in the 1970s were TWA Tristars. I flew one BOS-SFO 1976. Most of the planes hadn't been repainted in the new 1974 livery, so there it stood on arriving at the terminal, its classic golden globe-graced tail announcing to you that despite the cutbacks and fuel crisis, you would still be stepping on an important airline indeed . As the authors of the book "Destination Disaster" wrote, these "airbuses" (as the DC-10 and Tristar were then often called), were reminiscent of the airships of old, with an atmosphere of quiet elegance. They were often half empty, and before deregulation, had generous seat picth and 8-across seating in economy. TWA served a C-class style appetizer and choice of 3 meals in the economy cabins. In the middle of the 4 middle seats ran a small space down the middle, almost a mini-aisle, where as i recall the air conditioner units were located. The First class seats swiveled around a circular table for dining. Compared to the DC-10, I always thought the rear engine design more elegant on the Tristar. It was claimd to be more technologically advanced than the DC-10, and was arguably more soundly built (I make a controversial claim, for which I have no proof) As a result, the DC-10 was cheaper to build, so fewer airlines bought Tristars.

Interesting that Delta was one of the original DC-10 customers, then in short order replaced them with the L10. Does anyone know why?


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Quoting Ldriver (Reply 16):
If I had known at the time it was effectively a death trap I would have almost certainly backed out.

Surely you are joking?!



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 17):
Quoting Ldriver (Reply 16):
If I had known at the time it was effectively a death trap I would have almost certainly backed out.

Surely you are joking?!

He's not.
Just misinformed and ill-informed.



Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis
User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

L-1011. I miss the Old Lockheed Tri Tianic. Adjusting the FFR on nbr 1 and 3 with the eng running. Full power runs after a eng change, Hung starts, and all the field trips. Oh and the case of Oil you had to drag out everytime it came to you gate   I still look for them when I do make it up the the desert to check on some of her younger 767s stored there.

User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3222 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

The Vickers Vanguard, my first flight as a child, wonderful big big windows, wow.
vickers


Also the L1011, huge cabin space and a great take-off sound. 



you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

The A300 was nice as well. A hastle to load as the inplane system never worked.
But it could carry a decent number of pax and a lot of freight.
I flew on them a lot never any bad flights.


User currently offlineLdriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3202 times:

Quoting neutrino (Reply 18):
Quoting neutrino (Reply 18):
He's not.
Just misinformed and ill-informed.

Maybe so. I follow air safety pretty avidly, but perhaps I don't have as thorough a command of the Concord crash as some others might. That said, what is your opinion on the probability that if, say, a 767 or Airbus (any model) had run over the metal strip, that it would also have crashed?


User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3192 times:

I believe if it was any other aircraft that had crashed it would've been a big deal.
But, because it was the Concorde and caught on camera it was a huge deal
and blown out of proportion. In general the concord had a pretty good safety record.
Sad when it happened? Yes. Over the last decade airline safety has been good if not outstanding.


User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

"Hush Power."

With its T-tail and four rear-mounted engines, the Vickers VC-10. It set a record for sub-sonic trans-Atlantic flight and were it not for the price of fuel...


25 Ldriver : I don't believe it. We can estimate this by the stats given on each of the 14 Concordes that flew commercially. They totaled about 210,000 hours upon
26 Mortyman : * * * * ****Concorde**** * * * *
27 RussianJet : A 'death trap'?? That would be one of the single most foolish comments I've had the misfortune to read on this forum. You can get a ride on all of th
28 Ldriver : Hi, Just wondering what your reasoning is. Just to make my meaning clear, the term death trap I use in a somewhat casual manner of speaking. It expre
29 RussianJet : For starters, any such comparison when concorde has had only a single deadly incident is plainly ridiculous - it will never bear any statistical vali
30 Post contains links Viscount724 : Reply 2 in this thread explains why DL acquired the 5 DC-10-10s in 1972/73 and operated them briefly until 1975 when they went to UA. Delta DC-10's (
31 mia305 : The Concorde crash wasn't a failure of the plane. It ran over a metal strip from a CO DC10 that took off before it. It's tyres burst causing shrapnel
32 Ldriver : Thank you for your reply. I didn't expect such a pointed reaction to a common phrase. So let me politely concede that "death trap" may be unduly hars
33 rwy04lga : Agree! Without question, the VC-10 was, is, and always will be the most beautiful aircraft to grace the skies! 2nd: L-1011 3rd: Vanguard 4th: Constel
34 Ldriver : I understand the point. It was a chain reaction event. The point that I was disturbed by is, should we expect a tire explosion to bring down an airli
35 mia305 : I don't think we will see anymore crashes from a burst tyre. Concorde had afterburners that caught the fuel on fire. I doubt there will be another acc
36 Ldriver : On that last point I hope no one disagrees. It's really more astounding than most people seem to realize. In the US, for example, if you exclude comm
37 neutrino : Ever heard of the nursery rhyme "For want of a nail"? For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a hors
38 Ldriver : This not being a Concorde safety thread, I'll end by saying, having reviewed the evidence again, it appears I am off base. There is, I think, a case t
39 Post contains images moby147 : My brother, sister & myself were able to buy a ticket for our father on Concorde 2-3 years before it 'retired' I was very sad that we did not have
40 HH65MAN : For me, it would have to be any prop driven plane. Bring back the sweet music of hearing pistons. I love the look of the Boeing 377, Connie and others
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