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Free Alcohol Served In Y On Flights Within Europe?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

I don't normally order alcohol on flights within Europe since they are so short and I need to keep myself awake.

I know they serve complimentary food still but what about alcohol? I mean in economy class.

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25695 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5033 times:

Beer and wine are free in Y class on KL, LH, LX and quite a few others. Obviously not on low-cost carriers like Ryanair and EasyJet where you even have to pay for water.

User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4947 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
I don't normally order alcohol on flights within Europe since they are so short and I need to keep myself awake.

I know they serve complimentary food still but what about alcohol? I mean in economy class.

It depends on the airline, but generally speaking the full service carriers serve free alcohol within Europe. What exactly is included also varies though. BA serves spirits in Economy, but LH does not, for example. LH do serve beer and wine though.

Also, not all legacy airlines serve complimentary food, and even those that do may not serve anything on shorter flights. The offering also varies based on the time of day. On Lufthansa, it can be anything from a Kit Kat (FRA-HAM, afternoon) to a sandwich (FRA-MAN, lunchtime) to a full hot meal (FRA-MAD, lunchtime).

Two examples of legacy airlines where very little catering is included are IB and SK. You'll get free water, tea or coffee, but that's about it.

If you tell us which carriers and routes you'd like to know about, we can probably give more specific information.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

Even within Europe? What about BA and AF?

US airlines suck. No free food/wine in Y........ UA doesn't even offer free wine on transatlantic flights and no free hard liquor on ALL flights. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. Why don't they just get their acts together and become another Singapore Airlines or at least British Airways.

[Edited 2013-03-08 21:48:38]

User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
Even within Europe? What about BA and AF?

Definitely free on BA. Beer, wine and spirits.

I don't fly AF much, but as far as I remember, it is (or at least, was) all free there as well.



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User currently offlineMAN2SIN2BKK From Germany, joined Feb 2009, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

I was a bit pissed off recently that there was no free alcohol on a full LH flight LHR-FRA. In the late 80's I used to indulge a lot in the free drinks on European flights; MAN-CPH was a 4 Vodka tonic route; MAN-FRA 3, MAN-LIN 4, MAN-MUC 5 etc LOL

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17084 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
US airlines suck. No free food/wine in Y........ UA doesn't even offer free wine on transatlantic flights and no free hard liquor on ALL flights. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. Why don't they just get their acts together and become another Singapore Airlines or at least British Airways

And how has the service level of the European carriers evolved?



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7221 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

The best choice is when you can choose to buy the actual drink and meal option you want.

I prefer to eat what I want rather than struggle through something I don't want.

Some companies have this right, like EasyJet and Aer Lingus - although I did enjoy my free Gin and Tonic and packet of crisps on a BA flight recently, I would have preferred to buy something more nutritious to eat.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

I find the service, food offered by LH, BA, AF good

User currently onlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 4):
I don't fly AF much, but as far as I remember, it is (or at least, was) all free there as well.

Yes, also free beer and wine in AF in Economy. Food depens on the duration of the flight, can be anything from a cookie to a sandwich or a full meal.

Nice to know, long haul AF even serves champagne and cognac in Y. Keeping up with the French legacy I guess  


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1890 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
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On LH short-haul you even get a real bottle of beer!

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User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
And how has the service level of the European carriers evolved?

It's de-evolved...the legacies here are now beginning to copy the US levels of service, which they're copying from the likes of NK, G4, etc (B6, VX and WN the exceptions).

Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
US airlines suck.

I know that's a generalization, but see my previous comment as to why. It's a race to the bottom...
Having only lived in Europe for a short time, I am aghast at the differences in service between here and the US...US service is completely driven by the almighty dollar...they are about making money here too, but are also about delivering a quality product for the cost.


User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4347 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 4):
I don't fly AF much, but as far as I remember, it is (or at least, was) all free there as well.
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 9):
Yes, also free beer and wine in AF in Economy. Food depens on the duration of the flight, can be anything from a cookie to a sandwich or a full meal.

AF does serve free alcohol (beer, wine, champagne) in all classes.

In Y, depending the flight length, they serve a snack or a sandwich. "Full meal" is only in Premium Economy and Business



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17084 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4327 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 11):
are now beginning to copy the US levels of service, which they're copying from the likes of NK, G4, etc (B6, VX and WN the exceptions

Yeah, that is the point I was trying to make. It seems that many in Europe don't recognize the decline in service levels, instead they are the first to bash U.S. airlines. A prime example of that is KLM's checked bag fee that will be implemented next month. Unfortunately, the European carriers are headed down the same way as the U.S. legacies.


Just sit back, relax and enjoy the race to the bottom among European airlines.  



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1853 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. Why don't they just get their acts together and become another Singapore Airlines or at least British Airways.

I love armchair Airline CEO's.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

Well if US airlines are doing so well why are they all losing money while SQ, CX are making big bucks?

So overall European airlines are still miles better


User currently offlineart From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

Quoting MAN2SIN2BKK (Reply 5):
In the late 80's I used to indulge a lot in the free drinks on European flights; MAN-CPH was a 4 Vodka tonic route; MAN-FRA 3, MAN-LIN 4, MAN-MUC 5 etc LOL

I like your equation of range in terms of vodka and tonics. For example, max A320 range: 10 drinks; max 777-200 range: 29 drinks. I know which one I'd rather fly. Might need some help with disembarking on arrival, though.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 20751 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 15):
Well if US airlines are doing so well why are they all losing money while SQ, CX are making big bucks?

What was Delta's 2012 net income of $1.6 billion? Chopped liver?



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User currently offlineSierra3Tango From Bahrain, joined Mar 2013, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

Not so sure about European airlines in the race the bottom, more like t was ever thus.

In the 70's/ early 80's BA/AF/LH/SR/IB plus a few more all charged for alcohol unless you were up the front of the plane
in whatever that was called in those days

Remember going MUN/LHR (about 1980) in a Trident when Y was full so had to pay the uplift - so simple, I'd drink the difference. After 4 G&T asked the steward how much I'd be paying per drink in Y, which calculated as 16 for the fare difference; Gave up the idea

Also doing a NCE / LHR over ZUR on SR, the cabin crew had special wallets / purses with change in 4 currencies to
collect money for drinks / duty free etc

Got a feeling BA started the free drinks in Y in the mid eighties - maybe my memory fails me.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9543 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

It is really so that there is hardly a difference in purchasing juice, mineral water, beer or wine. With the buying power the big carriers have, a drink from a liter bottle of wine in a small plastic cup is between 20 and 30 cents, a small bottle of beer same. Makes people happy, put a small snack to it, whoich, on domestic servoices mostly costs nothing as the big coporations like Nestle, jacos Suchard etc. supply these free for promotion purposes..

On the other side, the low costs charge € 7,50 for a small bottle of champagne which they buy for less than € 1,50 and really rip off their passengers that way. Same with the grossly overpriced cardboard food they sell as snacks.



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7221 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3507 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19):
On the other side, the low costs charge € 7,50 for a small bottle of champagne which they buy for less than € 1,50 and really rip off their passengers that way. Same with the grossly overpriced cardboard food they sell as snacks.

For which they can lower the ticket price, and still make money.

Some of the Buy on board food is excellent these days.

For example



or



or




I would prefer this to a day old sandwich with unidentified ingredients.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9543 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3469 times:

your examples are missing and to be honest, I rather prefer an all in price which leaves me with all the flexibility than having to pay for every poop.


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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2637 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3448 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 20):

Yes, I'd rather have nothing than a sandwich that can give me health problems too  


User currently offlineHywel From Uganda, joined Apr 2008, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3406 times:

Quoting MAN2SIN2BKK (Reply 5):
I was a bit pissed off recently that there was no free alcohol on a full LH flight LHR-FRA.

Lufthansa still give free alcohol on all short-haul flights, so there must have been a catering/technical issue on your flight. I had it too flying DUS-LHR before - the inbound flight was late and there was no time to replenish the drinks so they only had water available.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7221 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3375 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):

your examples are missing and to be honest, I rather prefer an all in price which leaves me with all the flexibility than having to pay for every poop.

Personally, the choice of food that I want to eat.

From Dublin to Heathrow, The morning bmi breakfast was disgusting to be honest, so I ended up going to meetings not eating. At least on EI, the pay breakfast was tasty, filling and hardly cardboard.

On my last BA flight, the free drink was great, but not really what I wanted - I would have preferred a sandwich, and would have paid for it.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 25, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 17):

What was Delta's 2012 net income of $1.6 billion? Chopped liver?

Umm..... Perhaps you are right. But overall CX, SQ and other top Asian airlines perform better


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 20751 posts, RR: 62
Reply 26, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 25):
But overall CX, SQ and other top Asian airlines perform better

I would check those numbers if I were you.  



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User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 888 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Flown domestic LH on MUC-TXL with an A321 on the evening on Y Class. Excellent crew and service: snack + great beer + coffee and a second round of drinks (!!) water + snacks. The flight wasn't too full.

AF offers in Europe in Y Class, beer + wine. Not sure of other choice of alcohol.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
I would check those numbers if I were you.

Recent years maybe DL is better. Not sure about net income though.

SQ has never posted a loss while CX has posted a loss only twice. And both airlines have been very profitable for many years and they never been in bankruptcy whilest many US airlines have been in chapter 11 before and they posted great losses many years.

Just my two cents.


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 14):
I love armchair Airline CEO's.

Just about EVERY poster on this thread is an A.net armchair CEO. Nobody seems to realize that there is no such thing as "free" anything on an airline. If you get anything for "free", it means you've actually paid for it.
So you might wish for "free" food or alcohol on your flight if your mommy paid for your ticket with her credit card (armchair CEOs, see most posts above) or you're a booze hound who likes to get drunk at the cost of others.

Give me Ryanair's a la carte pricing any day. I don't want to check my bag, so why should I pay for your "free" bag? I don't drink alcohol, so why should I pay Lufthansa to serve you a bottle of beer?

Get real please. Why is nobody complaining that they don't serve you a glass of champagne of the commuter train or the elevator of your office building? Sometimes I really don't understand this forum and it's users any more.

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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9189 posts, RR: 15
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

I know there is a fee behind it. It's just that 'free drinks' make one feel better.      

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