ER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2687 posts, RR: 7 Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2879 times:
I was relating a story to a friend yesterday about something that happened to me back in the mid 90's and was wondering how this might play out today.
I won a pair of tickets on NW and my girlfriend and I went to Hawaii. The day before our return flight, I lost my wallet and hence all my identification. Since our flight was less than 24 hours later, there was no chance of getting any replacements, especially considering I was several thousand miles from my home state. Just returning the rental car was an adventure since it was on my now cancelled credit card. Had to have the rental agent call my credit card company to get my new card # which I didn't even know yet. Now on to check in at NW. While standing in line my gf went to go use the restroom. Of course as luck would have it, I get up to the counter while she's not with me. I explain my plight to the ticket agent who was quite nice about the whole thing and said that she'd at least need to see my companion's ID in order to get us checked in. When my gf returned, the agent verified her ID and trusted that since we were on the same itinerary and she vouched for me, I could board.
In today's world, is there any chance I'd have gotten checked in at all, let alone gotten through security?
copter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2766 times:
I would like to think it could still be done, but it might take a bit more effort and depend on where you were and who you had to deal with. Most anything can be done if everyone wants it done badly enough.
TSA would likely be the biggest problem, but looking at it from a reasonable perspective, how are you going to possibly get ID from Hawaii. TSA can still verify the most important thing--that you don't have a weapon on the aircraft.
Unfortunately, if you have to deal with the HNL TSA agent that I had a few months ago, you might wind up making Hawaii your permanent residence!
nws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2600 times:
The one time I lost my ID the airline told me to file a police report. I explained that it wasn't stolen, just lost. They said it didn't matter and that a police report would document the details and assist in verifying my identity. I showed up at the airport and presented the police report. A supervisor was called over and she made a copy of the report and then handed me a boarding pass.
TSA was actually not that big of a deal. The agent asked several questions (DOB, parents name, place of birth, and a few others) and then went to an office for about five minutes. When he returned I made my way through the normal security process and was then given the secondary screening pat down. TSA never asked to see the police report.
AOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1310 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
Here in France, AF no longer checks IDs for flights departing to countries part of the Schengen area. They stopped doing it almost one year ago. They only check it if you need to check in some luggage.
boeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2476 times:
On April 16th, 2006 my family and I were flying back home from FLL and we were at the gas station refueling the rental car before dropping it off. My mom went to look in her purse for her wallet and it was missing. The wallet was misplaced somewhere in our condo. Our flight was scheduled to depart in an hour or so (it wasn't a long enough time to go back and search for it)
So once we arrived at the airport my mom explained to the agents at the check in desk what happened. They called over TSA and they took my mother into a back room for questions. I believe they read her a list of family members and asked what relation they had to her, what city they live in and things like that. Well, she passed and they let her through security and we got on our plane.
That was quite a memorable flight, it was on Hooters Airlines and I believe our flight was the last one to ever touch down. I remember circling around ABE for half an hour before we had to divert to AVP since no air traffic controller was replying.
ER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2687 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
Well, I feel a little better finding out I'm not the only one to have lost his ID info. I felt pretty dumb for the way it happened, but that's a whole other story. Not that I don't love Hawaii but since my job, home and family are on the mainland, I did need to get back. It was an "interesting" experience and it seems some of you have had similar stories.
PacNWJet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
In the post-9/11 era my wife's parents were going on one their many trips and my mother-in-law forgot her driver's license. At the airport it was no big deal. She got secondary screening at TSA and then was off on her way with no hassle. I believe it is a myth that you need a government-issued photo I.D. to pass security screening in the United States. As long as you are willing to endure secondary screening at the TSA checkpoint it would seem you should have no problem.
Venezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1429 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
There was a show on TV not too long ago (Similar to Airline on BBC) that talked about border patrol/security, etc and one of the segments was a guy who wanted to fly without an ID. Well I guess he did his research and found out that on the carrier contract it does say that you do not need an ID to travel so he put that to the test. After a call to the TSA supervisor and such they let him thorough but first they made sure they performed a thorough search and pat down of him and his belonging. Maybe someone else saw the episode and can shed some light on this
gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2271 times:
This happened in late Oct2012. I was on a railfan trip of the USA, 7 weeks, 4 on Amtrak & 3 by bus. My traveling companion was my mate Ian, a fellow railfan.
On the Thursday before we were due to fly home on the Sunday, we left Chicago on Amtrak's California Zephyr at 2:00pm and were due to reach Emeryville in the East Bay at 4:30 pm on Saturday. About 4 hours later Ian suddenly starts scrabbling around in his cabin bag. He looks up and says I can't find my PASSPORT!!! To cut it short we checked all the bags we both had in the cabin, the car attendant got Ian's bag from the baggage car at the next long stop (12m mins). No luck there and it was now after 7:00pm in UTC -5 so no Consulate would be open.
The next morning (Friday) he rang the Australian Consular 1-800 number. During a long conversation he was told to just carry on, he was given a reference number and a phone number to get the UA check in supervisor at SFO to enable him to board the plane.
So off to SFO we go at 2:00pm on Sunday for our 6:30 pm departure (we were flying via LAX). So we front up to the relevant UA check in desk about 2:30. I check-in fine and Ian give the story to the check-in lady, who duly called her supervisor, who authorised her to call the number Ian had given her. So she did, turns out she was talking to Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade in Canberra who authorised UA to board Ian on a flight to Australia, holding UA harmless, with all sort of authorisations numbers. Check-in lady proceeds to do the check-in, prints the baggage tags, but cannot print his boarding pass. So she rings Tech Support and they go back and forth for about an hour, she ends up talking to UA Corp legal (she said) and they said "United will NOT transport the passenger, irrespective of what the Australian Government says" and hangs up in her ear! She lets fly with a string of what I assume was Spanish. I have no idea what it was and I'm glad it was not directed at me! So she re-booked Ian to LAX (on our original flight) and booked him 24 hours later on LAX-SYD.
So off we go to the gate, I walk thru the TSA check point and scanner and look around for Ian and he's standing on the other side of the check point with a very large TSA officer. After a while I ask a TSA officer, who happened to be the check point supervisor what was happening he replied that they weren't going to let him fly without id. (Ian lost his drivers license about 20 years ago due to poor eye sight). I explained what happened and even gave him the Australian authorisation number. He went away, came back and got on the phone and rang several people and said they would let him fly after a "full" inspection. Which they then did, which took quite some time. We were finally permitted to go air-side.
We ran to our gate, went straight on the jet bridge and into the aircraft. I went straight thru to SYD, Ian spent the next day in LA getting a temporary passport and arrived home 24 hours later.
I was very happy with all UA front line staff especially the check-in lady at SFO, UA corporate is entirely another matter.
Moral of the story carry multiple id documents and in different parts of your person. (Ian now has a NSW government issued id card, to back up his passport).
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26384 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2186 times:
Quoting AOMlover (Reply 3): Here in France, AF no longer checks IDs for flights departing to countries part of the Schengen area. They stopped doing it almost one year ago. They only check it if you need to check in some luggage.
I've made several trips over the past few months from GVA, entirely within the Schengen area and involving connecting flights in both directions, mostly via AMS but one or two via ZRH, without ever having to present any ID anywhere including at the security checkpoints or at the gates when boarding. Never once had to take my passport out of my pocket. The only thing anyone wanted to see was my boarding pass.