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United #935 Diverted To IAD On 3 May  
User currently onlineDAL763ER From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 520 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3744 times:
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I was just looking at today's status for UA 935 and noticed that on the 3rd of May it left LHR 5 hours late and diverted to IAD. It didn't, technically, divert though. It seems to have left LHR directly for IAD instead of flying to LAX. Does anyone know why that is?

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/fligh...5/history/20130503/0925Z/EGLL/KLAX


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24834 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

Planned crew change.


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User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1084 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
Planned crew change.

Why would a carrier have a planned crew change on a flight that is to fly non stop to LAX ? If they wanted to stop 1/2 way passengers wouldnt book non stops.

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User currently offlineSHAQ From Panama, joined Jun 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 2):

This is the exception, not the rule.
With the delay, maybe the crew would go illegal, so they divert to IAD, and picked a fresh crew for the flight.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24834 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

With delay out of LHR, choice is either 1) cancel flight entirely, 2) operate somewhere else and plan on a crew change.

UA does this type of adjustments regularly in effort to protect a flight from total cancellation.



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User currently onlineDAL763ER From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3634 times:
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In such a situation, do pax go through CBP in IAD or do they just land, change crews and carry on to LAX as an international flight?

If pax do get off the plane, can those whose final destination is not LAX ask to be rebooked to flights to their destinations from IAD without going all the way to LAX?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24824 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 5):
In such a situation, do pax go through CBP in IAD or do they just land, change crews and carry on to LAX as an international flight?

I may be wrong but I thought all flights now had to clear formalities at the first point of arrival in the U.S. I suppose there could be exceptions in the event of an emergency landing etc. at an airport without any customs/immigration facilities.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24834 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

On that specific day, passengers cleared FIS in IAD as the outbound reserve crew was not planned for a quick turn.
In the past however at times its been a tech stop only - no different than landing in Bangor, or some other remote airport. Pax remained on board and cleared customs at LAX. It varies from event to event.



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User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

My other half was on that flight. There was a hydraulic leak which delayed take off by around 4 hours. Just before push back, they advised that crew would be out of hours and they would fly a crew to IAD from ORD and change crew there. They were on ground for 40 mins or so. Total delay to arrival in LAX was about 6 hours.

No passengers were allowed to leave the aircraft in IAD. Passengers were kept on board and arrived in to LAX where they cleared customs and immigration. They parked at T7 but were transferred to Tom Bradley as I presume T7 facilities were unavailable at that time.

Mark



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9495 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 8):
Just before push back, they advised that crew would be out of hours and they would fly a crew to IAD from ORD and change crew there.

I am amazed how tight they were with crew time that they had to deadhead a crew from ORD because they couldn't make it to ORD since it is only about 45 minutes further.



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6091 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 2):
Why would a carrier have a planned crew change on a flight that is to fly non stop to LAX ? If they wanted to stop 1/2 way passengers wouldnt book non stops.

Check crew legality rules.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24834 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 8):

My other half was on that flight. There was a hydraulic leak which delayed take off by around 4 hours. Just before push back, they advised that crew would be out of hours and they would fly a crew to IAD from ORD and change crew there. They were on ground for 40 mins or so. Total delay to arrival in LAX was about 6 hours.

You sure it was that flight, and not one a bit earlier.

The May 3rd flight spend almost exactly 2-hours on the ground at IAD.



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User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):
You sure it was that flight, and not one a bit earlier.

Not sure what you mean. There is no earlier nonstop LHR/LAX flight with United. They're once a day.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):
The May 3rd flight spend almost exactly 2-hours on the ground at IAD.

Through his jet-lag induced haze, he said it felt very quick and was about 40 minutes. However, from the screenprint I've kept from the United website it says:

Departed LHR 2.53pm
Arrived IAD 5.01pm
Departed IAD 6.28pm
Arrived LAX 8.43pm

Mark



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User currently offlinea3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

That happened to me in late Feb.
originally FRA-ATL on DL, but due to long tech delay it was FRA-JFK (crew change) - ATL.

I think it's cheaper to have both crew and A/C "at home" than cancelling the flight completely and having the equipment sit on a foreign airport and crew in a hotel for one more night. Then, the next day, you'd have two DL A/C sitting in FRA (in my case) because surely DL would have operated the ATL-FRA leg that night. Big hiccup.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24834 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 12):
Not sure what you mean. There is no earlier nonstop LHR/LAX flight with United. They're once a day.

They had a similar IAD stop a bit earlier on the same flight.



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User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):
Quoting bananaboy (Reply 12):
Not sure what you mean. There is no earlier nonstop LHR/LAX flight with United. They're once a day.

They had a similar IAD stop a bit earlier on the same flight.

That I don't know about. However, he was definitely on UA935 on 3rd May which did have the unscheduled stop in IAD for about 90 minutes as described above.

Mark



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